Non-metal bands with some good metal crunch!

Nightwish · 06-20-2006, 03:55 PM

What are some non-metal, just regular rock/pop bands that you think had enough crunch that they could easily have made the segue into metal? I noticed that a lot of pop and rock bands were flirting with the metal sound during the 80s, when metal started really coming into its own. But the two that come most readily to mind as hovering right on that edge, for a while anyway, are Queen and Journey. A lot of older Queen material - "Stone Cold Crazy," "Ogre Battle," "Sheer Heart Attack," et. - not only crossed firmly into metal territory, but also influenced legions of modern metal bands. And Journey really forayed into that area quite a bit with their Escape and Frontiers albums, songs like "Keep on Runnin'," "Dead or Alive," "Edge of the Blade," "Chain Reaction," and even "Separate Ways (Worlds Apart)."

A few other bands that I think could have successfully made that crossover are Styx, Cheap Trick, and Boston.

MOhillbilly · 06-20-2006, 03:57 PM

SHEER TERROR

**Baby Lee** · 06-20-2006, 04:07 PM

Sum 41 what you're looking for?

Nightwish · 06-20-2006, 04:10 PM

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Sum 41 what you're looking for?

Yeah, they've played around a bit with some traditional metal stylings. I saw them live last year, opening for Motley Crue. Not bad.

jlscorpio · 06-20-2006, 05:13 PM

old: The Cars and the Smithereens
now: Foo Fighters and Queens of the Stone Age (My favourite band)

chagrin · 06-21-2006, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jlscorpio

old: The Cars and the Smithereens
now: Foo Fighters and Queens of the Stone Age (My favourite band)

The music may have had SOME metal type qualities, but some 90s type sissy boy crying about his best friend isn't metal - EVER

htismaqe · 06-23-2006, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jlscorpio

old: The Cars and the Smithereens
now: Foo Fighters and Queens of the Stone Age (My favourite band)

QOTSA rules.

Braincase · 06-26-2006, 09:52 AM

Evanescence, but Amy needs to wear tighter, more revealing outfits.

**Tribal Warfare** · 06-20-2006, 06:31 PM

Mud Vayne

**Reaper16** · 06-20-2006, 07:26 PM

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Mud Vayne

Mudvayne are awesome. There are actually a good number of "nu-metal" bands (God, I hate that misnomer) that are pretty damn awesome. Spineshank was one of those.

To make a controversial post out of this, my answer is Pantera.

jlscorpio · 06-20-2006, 07:38 PM

please explain the inside Pantera joke...I must've missed it before

**Reaper16** · 06-20-2006, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jlscorpio

please explain the inside Pantera joke...I must've missed it before

No inside joke.

The controversy lies in the assertion that Pantera isn't metal.

Nightwish · 06-21-2006, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jlscorpio

please explain the inside Pantera joke...I must've missed it before

There are those who dispute whether Pantera, especially in their early days, were truly metal. In large part, this is due to the fact that their visual image early on was glam, although their musical style didn't really fit their fashion sense at that time. Cowboys From Hell was a solid metal album, in my opinion, but if you look at concert footage from that era, they basically looked like a pretty-boy hair band. They didn't really start dressing (and grooming) to match the music until Vulgar Display of Power.

Of course, you know Reaper and his technical grasp of the nuances of metal and its various subgenres, so he may have meant something entirely different.

**Reaper16** · 06-22-2006, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightwish

There are those who dispute whether Pantera, especially in their early days, were truly metal. In large part, this is due to the fact that their visual image early on was glam, although their musical style didn't really fit their fashion sense at that time. Cowboys From Hell was a solid metal album, in my opinion, but if you look at concert footage from that era, they basically looked like a pretty-boy hair band. They didn't really start dressing (and grooming) to match the music until Vulgar Display of Power.

Of course, you know Reaper and his technical grasp of the nuances of metal and its various subgenres, so he may have meant something entirely different.

Pantera, to me, represent this link between thrash metal and "nu-metal." Pantera played a more groove oriented thrash-type brand of metal. Frequently, it sounds more rock than metal; thats just Dimebag's style. His playing was maybe the preeminent influence on the playing of "nu-metal" guitarists.

htismaqe · 06-23-2006, 02:01 PM

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Pantera, to me, represent this link between thrash metal and "nu-metal." Pantera played a more groove oriented thrash-type brand of metal. Frequently, it sounds more rock than metal; thats just Dimebag's style. His playing was maybe the preeminent influence on the playing of "nu-metal" guitarists.

There were other heavy bands exploring "groove" at the same time as (or slightly before) Pantera.

Suicidal Tendencies comes to mind immediately.

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