Why is everyone freaking out over Roaf? - Page 3

Moooo · 07-28-2006, 08:54 PM

Lets start off by saying I personally think he was the most important person on the Offense other than the Backfield (Gonzo included). I'm not debating his importance.

That being said, why is everyone going nuts? Its not like freaking out and panicking is solving the problem. At this point its in the hands of the coaching staff. They have a MONTH AND A HALF to figure out who will be the most reasonable suitor, and consequently get a good system going.

Everything I've seen says synchronization with the other members of the O-line and also the backfield is the most important aspect of the performance of a lineman. Whoever replaces him will have all that time to learn the subtleties of Waters, Green, LJ and the other linemen as well. Its not going to be like it was last year when the player was thrown in to an offense with players he wasn't used to working with, or an offense which is designed around a pro-bowl tackle. Now we have time to make the necessary changes to work with this accordingly.

I'm not putting people down for freaking out. I just don't get it at all... It doesn't make sense so if someone can explain why you freak out (when it doesn't make the situation better), I would appreciate it.

Moooo

Chiefs Minor Satellite · 07-29-2006, 06:33 AM

As many people pointed out last week, one player is not going to make or break this team.

The operative word here people is TEAM.

I'm sure we are disappointed that Willie has decided to retire, but have you considered the fact that he might be doing so to give us a better chance to win? He might be hurting more than ever and knows deep in his soul that he cannot repeat his performances of the past.

Just throwing out something to consider.

Along another thought, there is far too much of a pessimistic outlook just as camp starts. With no known facts, other than Willie is retiring and camp is open some seem to have given up with the announcement. Wake up people, Willie is important but he was only one part of the equation.

**penguinz** · 07-29-2006, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by sedated

let's see...

without roaf, we will have a shitty offensive line

(did you see the games without roaf? utterly pathetic. btw, we went 2-5 in those games - with our only wins coming against the faiders)

...so, with all the offseason LJ hype, defenses will aim to stop the running game

...and no running game hurts the defense.

...and the (2nd) most important player, Trent Green, probably won't last half the season with all the pressure he will now see.

no passing, no running, no defense.

why are we freaking out again?

Wrong

**cdcox** · 07-29-2006, 07:26 AM

Yeah, we should all have the calm perspective of this guy:

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Originally Posted by Moooo

What are the odds of having BOTH our starting Offensive Tackles retire in one season?

Personally, I'm done. I can't keep up withthis stuff anymore, and truthfully, I'll just tune in to the first preseason game and go from there...

Moooo

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=144468

**wazu** · 07-29-2006, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by cdcox

Yeah, we should all have the calm perspective of this guy:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=144468

CoMoChief · 07-29-2006, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Moooo

Lets start off by saying I personally think he was the most important person on the Offense other than the Backfield (Gonzo included). I'm not debating his importance.

That being said, why is everyone going nuts? Its not like freaking out and panicking is solving the problem. At this point its in the hands of the coaching staff. They have a MONTH AND A HALF to figure out who will be the most reasonable suitor, and consequently get a good system going.

Everything I've seen says synchronization with the other members of the O-line and also the backfield is the most important aspect of the performance of a lineman. Whoever replaces him will have all that time to learn the subtleties of Waters, Green, LJ and the other linemen as well. Its not going to be like it was last year when the player was thrown in to an offense with players he wasn't used to working with, or an offense which is designed around a pro-bowl tackle. Now we have time to make the necessary changes to work with this accordingly.

I'm not putting people down for freaking out. I just don't get it at all... It doesn't make sense so if someone can explain why you freak out (when it doesn't make the situation better), I would appreciate it.

Moooo

You say you understand his importance on the Oline yet you're not freaking out?!?! Did you see how we performed on offense when Roaf was gone? His absence will take us out od the top 15 in offense, Trent's backside will get exposed and will lead to him getting injured, LJ won't have nearly as good of a season. We lost to the ****ing Bills last season because he was gone. We wont make the playoffs this season, I'm willing to bet on that. Our backups are Turley (if we switch him to LT), Jordan Black (everyone's nightmare), or Will Svitek (a project from NFLE where he was solid against sub-par talent). But hey, theres no reason to worry.

I understand that we wouldve had to go through this sooner or later, but we signed Ty Law and got some defensive players simply to have ONE last run for the SB. He also shouldve done this BEFORE the draft. We couldve drafted Eric Winston in the 2nd round instead of Benard Pollard which makes us look extremely reeruned now.

Brock · 07-29-2006, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BSPimpDude

You say you understand his importance on the Oline yet you're not freaking out?!?! Did you see how we performed on offense when Roaf was gone? His absence will take us out od the top 15 in offense, Trent's backside will get exposed and will lead to him getting injured, LJ won't have nearly as good of a season. We lost to the ****ing Bills last season because he was gone. We wont make the playoffs this season, I'm willing to bet on that. Our backups are Turley (if we switch him to LT), Jordan Black (everyone's nightmare), or Will Svitek (a project from NFLE where he was solid against sub-par talent). But hey, theres no reason to worry.

I understand that we wouldve had to go through this sooner or later, but we signed Ty Law and got some defensive players simply to have ONE last run for the SB. He also shouldve done this BEFORE the draft. We couldve drafted Eric Winston in the 2nd round instead of Benard Pollard which makes us look extremely reeruned now.

Well, at least you aren't panicking.

C-Mac · 07-29-2006, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Teams with lesser offensive lines have made it further than the Chiefs. Look at Pittsburgh. Seattle. San Diego. Indy.....I don't think any of them have or had as good of an O-Line as us.

Shhhhh...

oldandslow · 07-29-2006, 09:17 AM

Seattle's line was pretty awesome. I don't think peter should have included it on his list.

Hell, Minn paid more to steal Hutch away from seattle than we pay for our entire line (minus roaf)!!!!

Mr. Laz · 07-29-2006, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Moooo

I never said it wasn't an issue for concern, I asked why everyone is freaking out. It doesn't make Roaf come back, or Black or Turley play better.

Moooo

so basically you question/point really is...

"hey fans!! why do you feel anything towards your team when it really doesn't effect things anyway"

dumbassery at it's finest

Mr. Laz · 07-29-2006, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by cdcox

Yeah, we should all have the calm perspective of this guy:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=144468

outstanding .... you're my new hero

stevieray · 07-29-2006, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BSPimpDude

We couldve drafted Eric Winston in the 2nd round instead of Benard Pollard which makes us look extremely reeruned now.

I've never understood these types of statements.

Mr. Laz · 07-29-2006, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

I've never understood these types of statements.

nothing like taking a statement completely out of context

stevieray · 07-29-2006, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz

nothing like taking a statement completely out of context

nothing like playing coulda shoulda woulda to take reality out of context.

Mr. Laz · 07-29-2006, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

nothing like playing coulda shoulda woulda to take reality out of context.

did you even read what he said?

he was making a point about how the timing of Roaf's retirement hurt us.

a point you also made yesterday

lets try quoting him with a little more context and see if the statement makes a little more sense.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BSPimpDude

I understand that we wouldve had to go through this sooner or later,

He(roaf) also shouldve done this BEFORE the draft.

We couldve drafted Eric Winston in the 2nd round instead of Benard Pollard which makes us look extremely reeruned now.

if roaf retires earlier we could of adjusted the draft and been in a better position.

a completely reasonable opinion

stevieray · 07-29-2006, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz

did you even read what he said?

he was making a point about how the timing of Roaf's retirement hurt us.

a point you also made yesterday

lets try quoting him with a little more context and see if they statement makes a little more sense.

if roaf retires earlier we could of adjust the draft and been in a better position.

a completely reasonable opinion

Key word is IF. He didn't. Deal with it.

07-28-2006, 08:54 PM
Moooo Seeking Enlightenment... Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Springfield Casino cash: $10004900	Why is everyone freaking out over Roaf? Lets start off by saying I personally think he was the most important person on the Offense other than the Backfield (Gonzo included). I'm not debating his importance. That being said, why is everyone going nuts? Its not like freaking out and panicking is solving the problem. At this point its in the hands of the coaching staff. They have a MONTH AND A HALF to figure out who will be the most reasonable suitor, and consequently get a good system going. Everything I've seen says synchronization with the other members of the O-line and also the backfield is the most important aspect of the performance of a lineman. Whoever replaces him will have all that time to learn the subtleties of Waters, Green, LJ and the other linemen as well. Its not going to be like it was last year when the player was thrown in to an offense with players he wasn't used to working with, or an offense which is designed around a pro-bowl tackle. Now we have time to make the necessary changes to work with this accordingly. I'm not putting people down for freaking out. I just don't get it at all... It doesn't make sense so if someone can explain why you freak out (when it doesn't make the situation better), I would appreciate it. Moooo
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07-29-2006, 06:33 AM	#31
Chiefs Minor Satellite Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Lansing - State Penn Casino cash: $10004900	As many people pointed out last week, one player is not going to make or break this team. The operative word here people is TEAM. I'm sure we are disappointed that Willie has decided to retire, but have you considered the fact that he might be doing so to give us a better chance to win? He might be hurting more than ever and knows deep in his soul that he cannot repeat his performances of the past. Just throwing out something to consider. Along another thought, there is far too much of a pessimistic outlook just as camp starts. With no known facts, other than Willie is retiring and camp is open some seem to have given up with the announcement. Wake up people, Willie is important but he was only one part of the equation.
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07-29-2006, 09:17 AM	#38
oldandslow Veteran Join Date: Apr 2004 Casino cash: $3723149	Seattle's line was pretty awesome. I don't think peter should have included it on his list. Hell, Minn paid more to steal Hutch away from seattle than we pay for our entire line (minus roaf)!!!!
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