Whitlock- OPTIMISM GRINDS TO HALT

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by Rausch

It's killed the Steelers and Pats for years now...

Sure, if you want to ignore the '00 Pats season that netted them Richard Seymour and Matt Light and the '03 Steelers season that got them Ben Roethlisberger.

[tk13]

Originally Posted by jspchief

Sure, if you want to ignore the '00 Pats season that netted them Richard Seymour and Matt Light and the '03 Steelers season that got them Ben Roethlisberger.

Yeah, we had that chance... and we got Ryan Sims.

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by tk13

Yeah, we had that chance... and we got Ryan Sims.

I'm certainly not trying to claim that a high draft pick is necessary to win a SB, or a guarantee of future success.

I was just responding to what I perceived as a claim NE and PIT had success in spite of never getting high picks.

I agree with Mecca's comment about the middle of the road W/L record (7-9 t 9-7). It sucks. Not good enough to get into the play-offs, and never bad enough to draft "elite" prospects. I'm not saying I want the team to do poorly, just agreeing that there's less to get excited about in that position.

[GoHuge]

Originally Posted by jspchief

I'm certainly not trying to claim that a high draft pick is necessary to win a SB, or a guarantee of future success.

I was just responding to what I perceived as a claim NE and PIT had success in spite of never getting high picks.

I agree with Mecca's comment about the middle of the road W/L record (7-9 t 9-7). It sucks. Not good enough to get into the play-offs, and never bad enough to draft "elite" prospects. I'm not saying I want the team to do poorly, just agreeing that there's less to get excited about in that position.

Would you consider Larry Johnson who rushed for over 2000 yards his senior year not an "elite" prospect at #27? Everything about #27 looks pretty elite. I understand what your saying. Not disagreeing just making a point.

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by GoHuge39

Would you consider Larry Johnson who rushed for over 2000 yards his senior year not an "elite" prospect at #27? Everything about #27 looks pretty elite. I understand what your saying. Not disagreeing just making a point.

Sure. I can use hindsight to call a lot of draft picks great over the course of many seasons.

But that wasn't really the point that was being made. I think Mecca was referring to the excitement of an individual season. Win a lot of games, and you have the play-offs to be excited about. Win only a few games, and you have a high draft pick to be excited about. Somewhere in the middle, and you basically get the Chiefs for the last 20 years.