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Old 09-02-2006, 09:43 AM  
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Lions release Rogers
LIONS RELEASE ROGERS

The Detroit Lions have parted ways with receiver Charles Rogers, the No. 2 overall pick in the 2003 draft.

Rogers missed most of his first two seasons due to broken collar bones, and was ineffective in 2004, during which he was suspended four games for violation of the league's substance abuse policy. After the suspension, the team filed a grievance against Rogers for recovery of bonus money. The grievance is still pending.

Prior to the 2003 draft, there were reports that Rogers had generated a positive drug test due to a diluted urine sample. The news didn't deter the Lions and team president Matt Millen.

Other cuts include veteran running back Artose Pinner, linebacker James Davis, and rookie sixth-round CB Dee McCann.
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Old 09-02-2006, 02:00 PM   #76
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Not only did Rogers not show anything in past years, (somewhat understandable given the Lions offensive woes) he obviously didn't show anything to the entirely new coaching staff.....
Yes indeed.
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If this guy had ANY potential (or maybe a better attitude) Martz would be sucking him off on a daily basis.
It appears Mecca is holding down that job right now. (I kid, I kid..)
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Detroit's offensive philosophy has done/will do a 180, which would seem to favor Rogers. Instead, he gets a pink slip.

I think it says a lot when Mike Martz decides that Mike Furrey > Charles Rogers........
You got it. The man was an idiot as an HC, but is a decent offensive coordinator.
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Who cares? What did he do 4 years ago in college? That's all that really matters.
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Old 09-02-2006, 02:02 PM   #77
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Rogers = The Ryan Sims of offense.
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Old 09-02-2006, 02:02 PM   #78
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Yes indeed.

It appears Mecca is holding down that job right now.

You got it. The man was an idiot as an HC, but is a decent offensive coordinator.
Alright you'd rather have Chris Hannon than Charles Rogers......I'll mark that down.
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Old 09-02-2006, 02:03 PM   #79
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Rogers = The Ryan Sims of offense.
No, I've actually seen Ryan Sims make a play or two since college.
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Old 09-02-2006, 02:04 PM   #80
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Alright you'd rather have Chris Hannon than Charles Rogers......I'll mark that down.
Ohhhh....I'm on "the list!"

No, I'd rather have Andre Johnson. But that isn't going to happen. Hence, I'll take what we've got over Charles "don't bogart me" Rogers.
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Old 09-02-2006, 02:04 PM   #81
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Mike Furrey played for Martz in St Louis......
Yeah, so what?

You honestly think that Mike Freaking Martz is going to keep a "lesser" talent around just because he played for him before?

Martz wants the best 6 WR PERIOD.

Rogers wasn't one of them.....

Eddie Drummond, Shaun Bodiford > Charles Rogers
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Old 09-02-2006, 02:04 PM   #82
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we are talking about taking a flyer on a potiential guy for a minimum salary by cutting nate "freakin" curry, go godsake.

little/no risk with a chance for good reward.

WTF is anyone against it?
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Old 09-02-2006, 02:06 PM   #83
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we are talking about taking a flyer on a potiential guy for a minimum salary by cutting nate "freakin" curry, go godsake.

little/no risk with a chance for good reward.

WTF is anyone against it?
I've been wondering that myself.........sometimes I wonder what the hell people around here are thinking. My god if you want Rogers you obviously must think he can start for the team! I still think a bunch of people didn't notice how horrible these WR's were in preseason.
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Old 09-02-2006, 02:06 PM   #84
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Hopefully Titus won't pull up the thread from a couple years ago where I mentioned that maybe the Chiefs should trade LJ for Rogers.

But in my defense, LJ was rotting on the bench at the time, had gotten arrested for the 2nd time for domestic assault, and Johnny Morton was our 2nd WR.
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We are talking about taking a flyer on a guy who has shown nothing but "potential", a penchant for injury and character/substance abuse issues for a minimum salary by cutting nate "freakin" curry or Webb, for godsake.

little/no risk with a little/no chance for good reward.

WTF is anyone for it?

"Change for the sake of change"?
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we are talking about taking a flyer on a potiential guy for a minimum salary by cutting nate "freakin" curry, go godsake.

little/no risk with a chance for good reward.

WTF is anyone against it?
IMO, if Mike Martz thought there was an OUNCE of potential left in Rogers, he would have kept him on the roster.

Instead, he kept Mike Furrey, Eddie Drummond and Shaun Bodiford.
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We are talking about taking a flyer on a guy who has shown nothing but "potential", a penchant for injury and character/substance abuse issues for a minimum salary by cutting nate "freakin" curry or Webb, for godsake.

little/no risk with a little/no chance for good reward.

WTF is anyone for it?
Check it out.......Dick Vermiel posts on the board "We're going with our guys that have been here and know the system, obviously Chris Hannon is better than Charles Rogers."
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Listen, if he can find his way from KCI to Arrowhead on his own, I guess I wouldn't complain if they gave him a contract. But from everything I'm hearing, the guy simply cannot grasp what his job is at this level, and it doesn't seem very important to him on top of that. It's pretty far from an exciting prospect, as far as I'm concerned. I have no idea whether or not Jeff Webb can play, but I'm already pretty convinced that Charles Rogers can't.
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IMO, if Mike Martz thought there was an OUNCE of potential left in Rogers, he would have kept him on the roster.

Instead, he kept Mike Furrey, Eddie Drummond and Shaun Bodiford.
Money....for what they were paying him Rogers probably should be cut. Also Drummond really isn't a factor he's on the team cause hes the return man.
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WTF is anyone for it?
Why not? If he comes here and sucks cut him and move on like it never happened. If he can get his head on straight he is a good athlete and can help us at a position we aren't very deep at. I guarantee you Trent isn't going to take any shit from him in the huddle and that Herm, Carl, and Lamar will back him up on it. I guess it doesn't matter anyway since we aren't going to bring him in.
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