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Old 09-02-2006, 09:43 AM  
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Lions release Rogers
LIONS RELEASE ROGERS

The Detroit Lions have parted ways with receiver Charles Rogers, the No. 2 overall pick in the 2003 draft.

Rogers missed most of his first two seasons due to broken collar bones, and was ineffective in 2004, during which he was suspended four games for violation of the league's substance abuse policy. After the suspension, the team filed a grievance against Rogers for recovery of bonus money. The grievance is still pending.

Prior to the 2003 draft, there were reports that Rogers had generated a positive drug test due to a diluted urine sample. The news didn't deter the Lions and team president Matt Millen.

Other cuts include veteran running back Artose Pinner, linebacker James Davis, and rookie sixth-round CB Dee McCann.
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Old 09-02-2006, 02:31 PM   #106
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Off the top of my head, here are some "bad apples" that helped their new team win a championship: Corey Dillon, Keyshawn Johnson, Simeon Rice.
I don't remember any of those guys completely sucking with their first team.
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Old 09-02-2006, 02:31 PM   #107
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Hannon and Webb might suck.

Charles Rogers has already removed all doubt that he sucks.
That's very unfair of you, jsp. Rogers has proven time and time again that he can perform at a high level in the NCAA against many CBs who didn't even make it to an NFL training camp, and he was spectacular. Just because he can't cut it in the NFL is no reason that you completely disregard everything that he's done at a sub-amatuer level!
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Old 09-02-2006, 02:32 PM   #108
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I don't remember any of those guys completely sucking with their first team.
Alot of people had labeled Rice as a bust when he went to Tampa....
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Old 09-02-2006, 02:32 PM   #109
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Everyone thought Rice was a complete scrub bust in Arizona then he went to Tampa and became one of the best players in the league.....
Don't know about that. He was pretty dang good in Arizona all but one year.
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Off the top of my head, here are some "bad apples" that helped their new team win a championship: Corey Dillon, Keyshawn Johnson, Simeon Rice.
There is a massive difference between those guys and Charles Rogers. All three of those guys were very, very productive before going to their 2nd team.
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Old 09-02-2006, 02:33 PM   #111
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WAS a ridiculous physical talent. In college. He's shown nothing in the pros.
So at 25 years old his talent has evaporated? I'm gonna call BS on that.


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Charles Rogers is not the missing link to a SB run......
Okay, thanks Miss Cleo
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Old 09-02-2006, 02:34 PM   #112
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Alot of people had labeled Rice as a bust when he went to Tampa....
Rice had 51.5 sacks in 5 years with Arizona. That is not a bust.
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Old 09-02-2006, 02:34 PM   #113
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I like how everyone was pissed off that Vermiel wouldn't add players after camp started......then a guy gets cut and they turn into Vermiel and don't want anyone.

So uh guys make up your mind.
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Old 09-02-2006, 02:34 PM   #114
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There is a massive difference between those guys and Charles Rogers. All three of those guys were very, very productive before going to their 2nd team.
They might not be exactly synonymous with Rogers, but my original point was that adding a "bad apple" has helped teams win championships in the past.
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Old 09-02-2006, 02:35 PM   #115
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Post Roy Williams awesome stats.....oh that's right he doesn't have them either.
You're joking, right? Compared to Charles Rogers, Roy Williams looks like Jerry Rice.

Are his numbers awesome? No. But if Rogers' excuse is Joey Harrington, Then why can Williams, or Scottie Vines for that matter, have at least mild success?

Rogers hasn't done shit in 3 years in the league.
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Rice had 51.5 sacks in 5 years with Arizona. That is not a bust.
I remember alot of people thinking he was "ok" but nothing like they thought of him after he went to Tampa and become a great player.
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Old 09-02-2006, 02:36 PM   #117
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They might not be exactly synonymous with Rogers, but my original point was that adding a "bad apple" has helped teams win championships in the past.
I'm all for bringing the guy in for a workout, I don't think it could hurt.

But, I think some of these guys are making the point not that he's a bad apple, but he's not been productive.
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I also like how some bring up the excuse "he was injured"

If that's the case, then why haven't we seen Sylvester Morris in a Chiefs uniform lately?
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They might not be exactly synonymous with Rogers, but my original point was that adding a "bad apple" has helped teams win championships in the past.
People around here would rather have Chris Horn than Charles Rogers, that's just how fans are. We'd rather have hard working never will be white boy than the all world talent that needs some work cause he has some problems. I don't agree with that philosphy but I see it on here constantly.
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They might not be exactly synonymous with Rogers, but my original point was that adding a "bad apple" has helped teams win championships in the past.
Are you one of those guys who wouldn't want TO on this team no matter what?
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