LJ - Unsportsmanlike Conduct, then Taunting? - Page 2

Jack · 10-16-2006, 07:02 PM

I watched the game. LJ chased down the Samoan fellow, got a hand full of hair and made the stop. I recorded the game and cannot find any "taunting" gestures. LJ was up and had his back to this fellow and he jumped at LJ, who seemed to just ignore him.

Anybody see this different? I think the ref just figured grabbing hair was a violation and tossed the flag. He called unsportsmanlike conduct to cover his faux pax? Later, the announcer said "he meant tauting".

Sorry if this issue has been covered in another thread, looked but couldn't find anything.

Psyko Tek · 10-16-2006, 09:00 PM

does anybody have a clip of this, I haven't seen it

thanks

**KcMizzou** · 10-16-2006, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Psyko Tek

does anybody have a clip of this, I haven't seen it

thanks

http://67.18.68.69/BB/showthread.php?t=149991

**Reaper16** · 10-16-2006, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou

http://67.18.68.69/BB/showthread.php?t=149991

You can see the LJ taunting on Ike Taylor after the tackle on that clip.

Adept Havelock · 10-16-2006, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

I don't think so.

I've seen it replayed several times. I do.

Psyko Tek · 10-16-2006, 10:41 PM

Upon further review...
LJ closed his fist and pulled him up,
maybe
LJ MAD
LJ SMASH
LJ RUN

DanT · 10-16-2006, 11:36 PM

I watched the game at a sports bar and without audio, but when I saw the play and the first replay or two, I was pretty sure that the penalty was not for tackling the guy by the hair, which almost has to be legal because tackling the guy by the jersey sure as hell is, but for yanking on the hair after LJ got up and was releasing it. Whether LJ was innocently trying to free his hand from the hair or not, the motion looked to be unsportsmanlike and deserving of a flag.

NY CHIEF · 10-17-2006, 07:20 AM

LJ's hand was blocked into his hair

stevieray · 10-17-2006, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Adept Havelock

I've seen it replayed several times. I do.

What I saw was the momentum popping both players up to their feet, and LJ trying to free his hand. Just watching the body language and movement( going in different directions) of both players after the play, tells me there wasn't malice involved.

Besdies I doubt LJ could pull over two hundred pounds up by the hair, with one arm.

jspchief · 10-17-2006, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

What I saw was the momentum popping both players up to their feet, and LJ trying to free his hand. Just watching the body language and movement( going in different directions) of both players after the play, tells me there wasn't malice involved.

Besdies I doubt LJ could pull over two hundred pounds up by the hair, with one arm.

I agree. It looks like LJ starts to pull his hand away and kind of gives it a yank to release it when he realizes it's stuck in Polamalu's hair.

As far as I could tell, the only time that he actually pulled it was when he was tackling him, and that's perfectly legal.

**KcMizzou** · 10-17-2006, 07:26 AM

LJ was just on Metro Sports. He says (paraphrasing) "I hope I got flagged for hitting Ike Taylor in the face twice, because I wouldn't try to do anything like that to Troy. He's a good guy on and off the field."

Doesn't say much for his feelings about Taylor.

Sully · 10-17-2006, 07:53 AM

I don't think LJ was penalized for anything to do with the hair... and he shouldn't have been.

But those of you who claim he was tangled up in it and trying to let go???
Cmon. His hand was in a tight fist coming up, still holding tightly. That is not a hand that is trying to get loose.
I'm willing to say it was just a heat of battle type of thing, no different than holding a jersey or an ankle a little longer than you should. But let's not pretend LJ was a saint on this, either.

10-16-2006, 07:02 PM
Jack Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Centralia, WA Casino cash: $10005010	LJ - Unsportsmanlike Conduct, then Taunting? I watched the game. LJ chased down the Samoan fellow, got a hand full of hair and made the stop. I recorded the game and cannot find any "taunting" gestures. LJ was up and had his back to this fellow and he jumped at LJ, who seemed to just ignore him. Anybody see this different? I think the ref just figured grabbing hair was a violation and tossed the flag. He called unsportsmanlike conduct to cover his faux pax? Later, the announcer said "he meant tauting". Sorry if this issue has been covered in another thread, looked but couldn't find anything.
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10-16-2006, 10:41 PM	#20
Psyko Tek special teams Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mesa AZ Casino cash: $10015665	Upon further review... LJ closed his fist and pulled him up, maybe LJ MAD LJ SMASH LJ RUN __________________ Psyko Tek The keyboard has been drinking,
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10-16-2006, 11:36 PM	#21
DanT Veteran Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Davis, CA Casino cash: $1611711	I watched the game at a sports bar and without audio, but when I saw the play and the first replay or two, I was pretty sure that the penalty was not for tackling the guy by the hair, which almost has to be legal because tackling the guy by the jersey sure as hell is, but for yanking on the hair after LJ got up and was releasing it. Whether LJ was innocently trying to free his hand from the hair or not, the motion looked to be unsportsmanlike and deserving of a flag.
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10-17-2006, 07:20 AM	#22
NY CHIEF Starter Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Manlius ,New York Casino cash: $-474000	LJ's hand was blocked into his hair
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10-17-2006, 07:26 AM	#25
KcMizzou Supporter Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Parkville MO Casino cash: $10005170	LJ was just on Metro Sports. He says (paraphrasing) "I hope I got flagged for hitting Ike Taylor in the face twice, because I wouldn't try to do anything like that to Troy. He's a good guy on and off the field." Doesn't say much for his feelings about Taylor.
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10-17-2006, 07:53 AM	#26
Sully It Goes On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lees Summit Casino cash: $10026331	I don't think LJ was penalized for anything to do with the hair... and he shouldn't have been. But those of you who claim he was tangled up in it and trying to let go??? Cmon. His hand was in a tight fist coming up, still holding tightly. That is not a hand that is trying to get loose. I'm willing to say it was just a heat of battle type of thing, no different than holding a jersey or an ankle a little longer than you should. But let's not pretend LJ was a saint on this, either. __________________ "And I don't wish that girl any bad luck," he said, "but I hope she gets hit with a car." - Tommy Lasorda
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