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Old 11-27-2006, 03:16 PM   #1
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I don't think I've ever gotten a flu shot. I can't remember the last time I had the flu either. It's probably been 10 years or so.

If I were 70 years old or had a 1 year old child I might look into them.
It's only the people that get the shots that get sick.
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Old 11-27-2006, 03:22 PM   #2
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It's only the people that get the shots that get sick.
I can tell you THAT it is not true. The shots are MOST beneficial to the very young, the elderly, and those with compromised immune systems...but the much shorter battles people experience even with the shot, save them days or even weeks of illness which can be pretty nasty.

I do think your work environment and climate can have a big impact though.
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Old 11-27-2006, 03:48 PM   #3
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In 2001, just 257 people died from the flu.

In 2001 3,454 Americans died from malnutrition.

Boy, if the corporations could make a malnutrition vaccination they'd see a real big profit. Where are the media scare tactics for malnutrition?
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Old 11-27-2006, 04:05 PM   #4
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In 2001, just 257 people died from the flu.

In 2001 3,454 Americans died from malnutrition.

Boy, if the corporations could make a malnutrition vaccination they'd see a real big profit. Where are the media scare tactics for malnutrition?
I don't see corporations pimping the flu story, it's the government and the media.

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Old 11-27-2006, 04:46 PM   #5
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In 2001, just 257 people died from the flu.
From where did you get that figure?
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Old 11-27-2006, 04:50 PM   #6
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From where did you get that figure?
Whoever did the names this time really outdid themself. I'm not sure whether I like the Dongless of Hummus Jenkins better. I need to know who to give rep to on this one.
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Old 11-28-2006, 12:05 PM   #7
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Whoever did the names this time really outdid themself. I'm not sure whether I like the Dongless of Hummus Jenkins better. I need to know who to give rep to on this one.
I only asked because I was curious as to which flu type he was referring. IIRC, approximately 36,000 people die from influenza (or influenza-caused illnesses) every year in this country alone.
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Old 11-28-2006, 01:45 PM   #8
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From where did you get that figure?

The CDC.

http://thinktwice.com/cdc_2001.pdf
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Old 11-28-2006, 10:18 PM   #9
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2001 stats?? get new info, dude

it's like AIDS

technically, AIDS doesn't kill you--it opens up your immune system so that other infections (called opportunistic infections) can kill you from something as simple as pneumonia
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Old 11-27-2006, 03:55 PM   #10
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I can tell you THAT it is not true. The shots are MOST beneficial to the very young, the elderly, and those with compromised immune systems...but the much shorter battles people experience even with the shot, save them days or even weeks of illness which can be pretty nasty.

I do think your work environment and climate can have a big impact though.
I was in health clubs most of my life and it's really easy to catch something there. Rolling around on the mats in Jiu-Jitsu isn't exactly the safest enviroment as well. I did have 2 colds last year but before those you would have to go back 5 years since I had one of those.
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Old 11-28-2006, 12:54 PM   #11
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the people that died in the 1917 flu pandemic called to say you're full of sh*t
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Old 11-28-2006, 01:05 PM   #12
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Old 11-28-2006, 01:08 PM   #13
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the people that died in the 1917 flu pandemic called to say you're full of sh*t

Go down and have them pump you full of that shit then.

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Go down and have them pump you full of that shit then.

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Old 11-28-2006, 01:19 PM   #15
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How does the state of sanitation in 2006 differ from 1917?

What sorts of countries currently experience the most influenza deaths per cap?

I remember hearing in the late 80s/early 90s that AIDS was going to mutate and become airborne, and also that it was going to become pandemic here. But the reality is, that people in the United States who don't engage in high risk behaviors are not at high risk.

Color me skeptical.

When it starts affecting average, healthy, non-elderly or non-infantile people in first world countries then I will be scared of eleventy billion people in the world dying including me. Until then, it will still sound like hysteria over nothing to me. If I were elderly or had an infant child I might be scared and rioting for vaccinations.
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