All I really desire is freedom FROM religion. - No offense has been intended - Page 12

Logical · 12-12-2006, 02:48 AM

I think some here misunderstand my intent as being a hater of people who are believers. If you have been around a long time you would have seen me defend many different religious types from the bigotry of so called Christians.

I personally believe there is a creator(s) but I also suffer from the illogical nature of the idea where did they come from?

So being as we are approaching a religious season for most religions I select this time to apologize for any hurt I may have caused any of the posters on this BB who mean well.

This is a thread not intended to stir the shit so hopefully it can stay in the Lounge.

mississippichiefan · 12-12-2006, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsMan

I just don't like 90% of church people, at least the ones I've encountered. they are self-centered, judgemental and very inconsiderate people.........for every 1,000 "church people" that I've encountered, 900 of them are terrible/stupid/a$$hole people.

Then you have never been to my church . But remember there was only one perfect person and that was the Lord Jesus Christ

Abba-Dabba · 12-13-2006, 12:35 AM

*rambling of thoughts*

I personally do not believe in god, the afterlife or anything that comes with it. I do not believe there has been one perfect person on this earth, that includes Jesus. My wife, who is very active in her church, believes the opposite.

Some people will say that man is God's greatest creation, I say that man is god's worst failure. Name me one species that has caused this world more destruction than man? You can't.

Christmas? What happened to Giftmas?

Logical · 12-13-2006, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by PastorMikH

FWIW Jim, I don't think I've ever felt offended at anything I've read from you. I have pretty much gathered where you stand based on your posts, but to me you've at least presented yourself in a respectful manner (at least in comparison to some of the other posters.

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I also hope I haven't come accross to you in any negative way as you indicated some have.

Definitely not, I think I could attend a Church you pastor and discuss the things I find interesting with no worry of pressure or condemnation. I am pretty confident you are a good egg, though you might feel yourself that I am mistaken in some of my beliefs.

Logical · 12-13-2006, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ZepSinger

Jim- from what comments I've gathered from you(none of which I would call hateful or opinionated), I'd call you a seeker.. someone open to the idea of a power higher than us, but quite skeptical all the same.

Far from being offended, my church is geared towards people just like you. We welcome those who don't know what to believe, if anything. True Christians are not judgmental- in fact we're loaded with the same problems and hangups as anyone, with no room or right to judge anyone. Those who do can count hypocrisy amongst their own faults.

Z

Thanks Z,

I would love to meet you and share stories some day, you have led from what I can tell a very interesting life.

Hammock Parties · 12-13-2006, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Saggysack

Name me one species that has caused this world more destruction than man?

Termites?

Logical · 12-13-2006, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Chieficus

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If I come up to you on the street or talk to you on your porch and you tell me, "Go away," that's fine--it's your choice, I'll go... But I'm not going to hang back, never approach you, and be worried about offending you...

Hopefully you are not offended when people are rude to you. Because frankly in my view you are no better when you do that than the telemarketer calling my home and you will receive the same verbal abuse that I give them. If you intrude on my life unwelcome I have lost patience with that sort of behavior and act accordingly. I will give you an abrupt not interested and if you don't get the hint be ready for the irate blast same as a telemarketer.

Logical · 12-13-2006, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Chieficus

If it works for you...

If you get that upset over someone knocking on your door, then I'd say your ill will runs a little deeper than concern for your peace, time, and privacy...

I always try to ignore people who call at the door not in FedEx or UPS/Post office uniforms (well except officials fire police etc) and just don't even open the door. If you persist you better be willing to pay the price because I tried to ignore you.

Oh Snap · 12-13-2006, 01:53 AM

haha went to church one time. Long story short. The pastor would sing. Crazy funny!! He would hold his hands up and sing ahmen. His voice was all crackly. Pretty funny.

Oh Snap · 12-13-2006, 01:54 AM

Now those jahovva witnesses can go to hell. Crazy ****ers.

Logical · 12-13-2006, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

I don't think you hate people who are religious as much as you love pissing them off by putting their religious beliefs down and ridiculing them for having faith in such things.

I like to challenge them, to challenge the way they think. I know I come off as an arrogant asshole a lot of the time which is the reason for this thread to try to disuade people of the notion you have that I desire to ridicule. Russ and I are different we have had unfortunate run ins in the past and we have both become hurtful towards each other. This is unfortunate.

Logical · 12-13-2006, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

How about a "no solicitation" notice on your door?

Are you equally crabby when salesman, girl scouts, a census worker, or a roofer.....come to your door?

Young kids Cub Scouts, Brownies, Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts are exception, otherwise if they are over 17 beware.

Logical · 12-13-2006, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Great, no offense but I don't know why I need to put up a No Trespassing sign in front of my $1.8 million dollar home. No trespassing should be IMPLIED.

(I apologize if the value of my home offends anyone)

It doesn't but I would love to hear a description of it sometime. I like to see the relative values of homes based on areas people live. Start a thread on it sometime.

Logical · 12-13-2006, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

God's still winning.

You know there is nothing wrong with the Creator(s) winning, just as long as organized religion is losing ground.

thepascalblaze · 12-13-2006, 03:02 AM

I have attended multiple churches worshippimg Jesus...

...whose members believe members of other churches are doomed to Hell...

...I have encountered many members, of said churches, who have a difficult time believing their God made so many Good poeple be born into different sects, ...
...

...and let the Good be so easily decieved by the word or words of man...

Goodness is the most common thread.

Live it if you want to be good.

Live it if you want to be Good.

Argue over the significance of the capital, or, lowercase "g..."

thepascalblaze · 12-13-2006, 03:06 AM

{... but never trapse outside of g(G)ood or ]g[Good to a realm of harm to another.}

In other words, do not cause physical harm to another, over what you think God meant, on the basis of what you heard another human say...

12-12-2006, 02:48 AM
Logical Screw U if U can't take a joke Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	All I really desire is freedom FROM religion. - No offense has been intended I think some here misunderstand my intent as being a hater of people who are believers. If you have been around a long time you would have seen me defend many different religious types from the bigotry of so called Christians. I personally believe there is a creator(s) but I also suffer from the illogical nature of the idea where did they come from? So being as we are approaching a religious season for most religions I select this time to apologize for any hurt I may have caused any of the posters on this BB who mean well. This is a thread not intended to stir the shit so hopefully it can stay in the Lounge.
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12-13-2006, 12:35 AM	#167
Abba-Dabba MVP Join Date: May 2001 Casino cash: $3582970	rambling of thoughts I personally do not believe in god, the afterlife or anything that comes with it. I do not believe there has been one perfect person on this earth, that includes Jesus. My wife, who is very active in her church, believes the opposite. Some people will say that man is God's greatest creation, I say that man is god's worst failure. Name me one species that has caused this world more destruction than man? You can't. Christmas? What happened to Giftmas?
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12-13-2006, 01:53 AM	#173
Oh Snap Veteran Join Date: Nov 2005 Casino cash: $8934925	haha went to church one time. Long story short. The pastor would sing. Crazy funny!! He would hold his hands up and sing ahmen. His voice was all crackly. Pretty funny.
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12-13-2006, 01:54 AM	#174
Oh Snap Veteran Join Date: Nov 2005 Casino cash: $8934925	Now those jahovva witnesses can go to hell. Crazy ****ers.
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12-13-2006, 03:02 AM	#179
thepascalblaze Starter Join Date: Apr 2004 Casino cash: $10004900	I have attended multiple churches worshippimg Jesus... ...whose members believe members of other churches are doomed to Hell... ...I have encountered many members, of said churches, who have a difficult time believing their God made so many Good poeple be born into different sects, ... ... ...and let the Good be so easily decieved by the word or words of man... Goodness is the most common thread. Live it if you want to be good. Live it if you want to be Good. Argue over the significance of the capital, or, lowercase "g..."
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12-13-2006, 03:06 AM	#180
thepascalblaze Starter Join Date: Apr 2004 Casino cash: $10004900	{... but never trapse outside of g(G)ood or ]g[Good to a realm of harm to another.} In other words, do not cause physical harm to another, over what you think God meant, on the basis of what you heard another human say...
Posts: 460