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Believer · 01-27-2007, 10:49 AM

This has been a great site since the playoff game.

Since everything else posted here has been non-football related I might as well say it:

Jesus Christ is Lord and Savior. He is the way, the truth, and the life.

Now watch the complaints "This doesnt have anything to do with football!!!!"

hahaha

**Bugeater** · 01-29-2007, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Believer

right, like if i posted on a prayer request it wouldnt turn it into a free-for-all. That is a situation I purposely avoided.
people on this site have shown themselves to be disrespectful enough that they would trash someones prayer request thread just to attack me and i didnt want to risk that out of concern for the thread starter.

SPchief · 01-29-2007, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Believer

right, like if i posted on a prayer request it wouldnt turn it into a free-for-all. That is a situation I purposely avoided.
people on this site have shown themselves to be disrespectful enough that they would trash someones prayer request thread just to attack me and i didnt want to risk that out of concern for the thread starter.

I'm pretty sure you are wrong about this tom

Believer · 01-29-2007, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by (Zach)

Other people post prayer requests and it isn't a free for all....in the least. It happens all the time.

Maybe that "its not the message but messenger" thing has some validity too it?

it has validity in that people do indeed have issues with me, thats more about them than it is about me.

Im not concerned with being popular, im concerned with speaking the truth.

Jesus and His disciples were not popular. they were killed in a grisly way.
too many Christians are about "fitting in".

If i posted on a prayer thread people would be so busy taking pot shots it would ruin the tone of the thread.

Jenson71 · 01-29-2007, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Believer

what point are you trying to make? You asked what the sermon was on and I told you, it was about those three parables.

By the way, you're a terrifically pleasant person to talk to. Thanks.

Believer · 01-29-2007, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Jenson71

By the way, you're a terrifically pleasant person to talk to. Thanks.

no, thank YOU.

Jenson71 · 01-29-2007, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Believer

no, thank YOU.

For what?

|Zach| · 01-29-2007, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Believer

it has validity in that people do indeed have issues with me, thats more about them than it is about me.

Im not concerned with being popular, im concerned with speaking the truth.

Jesus and His disciples were not popular. they were killed in a grisly way.
too many Christians are about "fitting in".

If i posted on a prayer thread people would be so busy taking pot shots it would ruin the tone of the thread.

**luv** · 01-29-2007, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Believer

If i posted on a prayer thread people would be so busy taking pot shots it would ruin the tone of the thread.

I think people have more respect for others than you give them credit for. Lack of faith in the charity of others?

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listopencil · 05-21-2011, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Believer

lessee,

no, that would be symbolism.

Well **** that then. I was only doing the communion thing because I thought I was getting away with cannibalism.

**CrazyPhuD** · 05-21-2011, 08:33 PM

Looks like it's time to make this a football thread!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...ited-barcelona

Sir Alex Ferguson sets his sights on European domination for United
Manchester United's record 19th league title is old news – it is in Europe the manager plays out his most romantic visions

Paul Hayward
guardian.co.uk, Sunday 22 May 2011 00.07 BST

Assuming his path to the prime minister's job had been blocked by a great statesman, the cabinet post Sir Alex Ferguson the politician would have wanted is foreign secretary. With his love of travel, French wine and American history, Manchester United's manager has always been outward looking, as befits a man raised around the docksides of Govan, from where the big ships set off on their adventures.

United's 19th league title passed into the records last weekend and is already old news. Domestic power relocated from Anfield to Old Trafford and then attention shifted to an even grander objective. The annexation of English football was always the most pressing concern for Ferguson in his daily working life but Europe is where he plays out his most romantic visions.

The continent is where he attends Uefa coaching seminars and shares ideas with his fellow grandees from France, Germany, Italy and Spain; Europe is where he turns up for press conferences and is not deterred by the babble of voices he does not recognise. The Champions League is the clearest measure of his ambition to be regarded as a grand old man of the world game and not only someone who can regularly put one over on Liverpool or Chelsea.

So now the personal opportunity presents itself to draw level with Bob Paisley, the only manager to win three European Cups, with Liverpool, in 1977, 1978 and 1981. Another, more distant, hope would be to bring United (who now have three) level with Liverpool on five. Victory over Barcelona on Saturday night and one more win before he stops would satisfy every possible retirement wish.

The boy who crept into Hampden Park to see Real Madrid extinguish Eintracht Frankfurt 7-3 in the classic European Cup final of 1960 still has the light of that day in his eyes. Ferguson would concur with his old friend, the late Sir Bobby Robson, who said: "The Champions League is really an extension of international football. In Europe the football feels better, smells better, stretches the mental faculties more.

"In the Premier League most opponents start out with faults and fallibilities that will reveal themselves over the 90 minutes. A manager is paid to spot and expose those frailties. In Europe – in the Champions League – you are testing yourselves against the best teams in each league. There is no soft underbelly."

Finding points of weakness in the world's best club side is Ferguson's final challenge in the year of his 12th Premier League conquest. On Saturday at Wembley, United will try to reverse the script of Rome 2009, when a side who finished with Cristiano Ronaldo, Wayne Rooney, Carlos Tevez and Dimitar Berbatov all on the pitch conceded a 10th minute goal to Samuel Eto'o and a second to Lionel Messi with 20 minutes left. Like United, Barcelona, for whom Messi is now a force of nature, won their first European title at the home of English football.

By a peculiar twist Ferguson's overseas expeditions often feature a Spanish dimension. His first conquest outside these isles came with Aberdeen's 1983 European Cup Winners' Cup win over Real Madrid. Twenty years ago, he broke his duck with United on the continent against Johan Cruyff's Barcelona, with a 2-1 victory in the same, now defunct, competition.

In that match in Rotterdam, Ferguson fielded 10 British starters plus an Irishman, Denis Irwin, and packed his bench with five English replacements. Mike Phelan, his assistant coach, was among those who went home wearing medals. "It was a major step forward," Ferguson says. "Lee Sharpe was coming through, so was Giggsy [Ryan Giggs]. We had Sparky [Mark Hughes] and Choccy [Brian McClair], [Paul] Ince and [Bryan] Robson and, soon after, we bought Paul Parker, Andrei Kanchelskis and Peter Schmeichel. Those were fundamental purchases that gave us a really strong group."

Eight years later in Barcelona, where United beat Bayern Munich with two goals in stoppage time to bring Ferguson the first of his two European Cups, Schmeichel (Denmark) Jaap Stam (Netherlands) and Ronny Johnsen (Norway) were the central rearguard in a semi-homegrown team that made European champions of David Beckham, Giggs, Gary Neville and Nicky Butt.

Cosmopolitanism then swept the club, from Juan Sebastián Verón through to Ronaldo, Edwin van der Sar, Nemanja Vidic, Patrice Evra, Tevez, Berbatov and now Javier Hernández, the Mexican forward who best exemplifies the club's new policy of spotting world-class talent under the age of 23 and feeding it through the university of Carrington.

Paisley, who spent 44 years at Anfield as player, physio, coach and manager, won his three European Cups in a four-year period with a core of players. Ray Clemence, Phil Neal, Phil Thompson, Ray Kennedy and Terry McDermott played in all three winning teams. Alan Hansen, Graeme Souness, Jimmy Case, Kenny Dalglish and Emlyn Hughes collected two of the three medals.

Ferguson's span would be 1999-2011 – 12 years – with three distinct teams: at the start of that period, 2008 (against Chelsea in Moscow) and next weekend. By the time he crossed the Rubicon at Camp Nou with the late assistance of Teddy Sheringham and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, Ferguson had just won his eighth league title as a manager: three with Aberdeen and five with United.

It was in Barcelona that he delivered his most rousing oration, telling his players at half-time, after Bayern Munich's sixth-minute goal: "At the end of this game, the European Cup will be only six feet away from you and you'll not even be able to touch it if we lose. And for many of you that will be the closest you will ever get. Don't you dare come back in here without giving your all."

From that day United acquired a modern European grounding that permitted an escape from the shadow of 1968, Munich and the Busby Babes, a level of attainment Ferguson's teams could not claim to have matched. Even in the years of near misses and the agonising 2002 semi-final defeat to Bayer Leverkusen, 1999 sustained the evolution from 4-4-2 to a more tactically varied and multinational approach.

Before the Schalke semi-final, Ferguson said: "This is where we should be. The expectation has always been high with regard to the European scene and you do get envious of other clubs' great record in Europe. We are trying to gain parity with that. You look at Real Madrid, Milan, Bayern Munich, Ajax and Liverpool. We really need to progress quickly to get to that level and the present group have enough experience in Europe now."

In Rome two years ago, Ferguson accused his players of stopping to watch the beautiful Barcelona passing carousel. There will be no popcorn this time. Alan Shearer says: "What this team has is that they know how to win a game. It doesn't necessarily have to be pretty. That's been the difference between them and Chelsea and Arsenal. When United haven't played well they've still won games and dug them out. I think Saturday's game will be tight. Really tight."

"The Manchester United of 1999 had talent by the bundle but there was nothing about them that I admired or valued more than their team spirit," Ferguson wrote in his memoirs, connecting then and now. London may be the venue, but Europe is his milieu.

**Bugeater** · 05-21-2011, 09:45 PM

So this did end up being another Tom Cash account?

LiveSteam · 05-21-2011, 10:00 PM

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CrazyPhuD Meow Join Date: Jun 2005 Casino cash: $10005050	Looks like it's time to make this a football thread! http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...ited-barcelona Sir Alex Ferguson sets his sights on European domination for United Manchester United's record 19th league title is old news – it is in Europe the manager plays out his most romantic visions Paul Hayward guardian.co.uk, Sunday 22 May 2011 00.07 BST Assuming his path to the prime minister's job had been blocked by a great statesman, the cabinet post Sir Alex Ferguson the politician would have wanted is foreign secretary. With his love of travel, French wine and American history, Manchester United's manager has always been outward looking, as befits a man raised around the docksides of Govan, from where the big ships set off on their adventures. United's 19th league title passed into the records last weekend and is already old news. Domestic power relocated from Anfield to Old Trafford and then attention shifted to an even grander objective. The annexation of English football was always the most pressing concern for Ferguson in his daily working life but Europe is where he plays out his most romantic visions. The continent is where he attends Uefa coaching seminars and shares ideas with his fellow grandees from France, Germany, Italy and Spain; Europe is where he turns up for press conferences and is not deterred by the babble of voices he does not recognise. The Champions League is the clearest measure of his ambition to be regarded as a grand old man of the world game and not only someone who can regularly put one over on Liverpool or Chelsea. So now the personal opportunity presents itself to draw level with Bob Paisley, the only manager to win three European Cups, with Liverpool, in 1977, 1978 and 1981. Another, more distant, hope would be to bring United (who now have three) level with Liverpool on five. Victory over Barcelona on Saturday night and one more win before he stops would satisfy every possible retirement wish. The boy who crept into Hampden Park to see Real Madrid extinguish Eintracht Frankfurt 7-3 in the classic European Cup final of 1960 still has the light of that day in his eyes. Ferguson would concur with his old friend, the late Sir Bobby Robson, who said: "The Champions League is really an extension of international football. In Europe the football feels better, smells better, stretches the mental faculties more. "In the Premier League most opponents start out with faults and fallibilities that will reveal themselves over the 90 minutes. A manager is paid to spot and expose those frailties. In Europe – in the Champions League – you are testing yourselves against the best teams in each league. There is no soft underbelly." Finding points of weakness in the world's best club side is Ferguson's final challenge in the year of his 12th Premier League conquest. On Saturday at Wembley, United will try to reverse the script of Rome 2009, when a side who finished with Cristiano Ronaldo, Wayne Rooney, Carlos Tevez and Dimitar Berbatov all on the pitch conceded a 10th minute goal to Samuel Eto'o and a second to Lionel Messi with 20 minutes left. Like United, Barcelona, for whom Messi is now a force of nature, won their first European title at the home of English football. By a peculiar twist Ferguson's overseas expeditions often feature a Spanish dimension. His first conquest outside these isles came with Aberdeen's 1983 European Cup Winners' Cup win over Real Madrid. Twenty years ago, he broke his duck with United on the continent against Johan Cruyff's Barcelona, with a 2-1 victory in the same, now defunct, competition. In that match in Rotterdam, Ferguson fielded 10 British starters plus an Irishman, Denis Irwin, and packed his bench with five English replacements. Mike Phelan, his assistant coach, was among those who went home wearing medals. "It was a major step forward," Ferguson says. "Lee Sharpe was coming through, so was Giggsy [Ryan Giggs]. We had Sparky [Mark Hughes] and Choccy [Brian McClair], [Paul] Ince and [Bryan] Robson and, soon after, we bought Paul Parker, Andrei Kanchelskis and Peter Schmeichel. Those were fundamental purchases that gave us a really strong group." Eight years later in Barcelona, where United beat Bayern Munich with two goals in stoppage time to bring Ferguson the first of his two European Cups, Schmeichel (Denmark) Jaap Stam (Netherlands) and Ronny Johnsen (Norway) were the central rearguard in a semi-homegrown team that made European champions of David Beckham, Giggs, Gary Neville and Nicky Butt. Cosmopolitanism then swept the club, from Juan Sebastián Verón through to Ronaldo, Edwin van der Sar, Nemanja Vidic, Patrice Evra, Tevez, Berbatov and now Javier Hernández, the Mexican forward who best exemplifies the club's new policy of spotting world-class talent under the age of 23 and feeding it through the university of Carrington. Paisley, who spent 44 years at Anfield as player, physio, coach and manager, won his three European Cups in a four-year period with a core of players. Ray Clemence, Phil Neal, Phil Thompson, Ray Kennedy and Terry McDermott played in all three winning teams. Alan Hansen, Graeme Souness, Jimmy Case, Kenny Dalglish and Emlyn Hughes collected two of the three medals. Ferguson's span would be 1999-2011 – 12 years – with three distinct teams: at the start of that period, 2008 (against Chelsea in Moscow) and next weekend. By the time he crossed the Rubicon at Camp Nou with the late assistance of Teddy Sheringham and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, Ferguson had just won his eighth league title as a manager: three with Aberdeen and five with United. It was in Barcelona that he delivered his most rousing oration, telling his players at half-time, after Bayern Munich's sixth-minute goal: "At the end of this game, the European Cup will be only six feet away from you and you'll not even be able to touch it if we lose. And for many of you that will be the closest you will ever get. Don't you dare come back in here without giving your all." From that day United acquired a modern European grounding that permitted an escape from the shadow of 1968, Munich and the Busby Babes, a level of attainment Ferguson's teams could not claim to have matched. Even in the years of near misses and the agonising 2002 semi-final defeat to Bayer Leverkusen, 1999 sustained the evolution from 4-4-2 to a more tactically varied and multinational approach. Before the Schalke semi-final, Ferguson said: "This is where we should be. The expectation has always been high with regard to the European scene and you do get envious of other clubs' great record in Europe. We are trying to gain parity with that. You look at Real Madrid, Milan, Bayern Munich, Ajax and Liverpool. We really need to progress quickly to get to that level and the present group have enough experience in Europe now." In Rome two years ago, Ferguson accused his players of stopping to watch the beautiful Barcelona passing carousel. There will be no popcorn this time. Alan Shearer says: "What this team has is that they know how to win a game. It doesn't necessarily have to be pretty. That's been the difference between them and Chelsea and Arsenal. When United haven't played well they've still won games and dug them out. I think Saturday's game will be tight. Really tight." "The Manchester United of 1999 had talent by the bundle but there was nothing about them that I admired or valued more than their team spirit," Ferguson wrote in his memoirs, connecting then and now. London may be the venue, but Europe is his milieu. __________________ "Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t*rd by the clean end"
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