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Old 01-30-2007, 10:02 PM  
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Old 01-30-2007, 11:33 PM   #31
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There's little question the AF treats their enlisted the best . . .

However, of all the services, when I was in (84-99), the AF promoted the slowest of the four services. I made E-7 in the Army at 9 years and was up for E-8 when I got out. I had a friend in the AF with more time in service than me who was still an E-5.

Better lifestyle, worse pay.

I'd take the smaller living quarters for the extra pay at the end of the month, but that's me.
Another good point, although I don't know if that's still the case. It certainly was 20 years ago. I made E-5 in under 4 years and was eligible to take the exam for E-6 (but didn't bother to) when I got out.

It was not at all unusual for Air Force people to RETIRE as E-5s.
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Old 01-30-2007, 11:43 PM   #32
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Your Commander in Chief, President Hillary Clinton will appreciate your service recxjake.















/*shudder*
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Old 01-30-2007, 11:47 PM   #33
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Your Commander in Chief, President Hillary Clinton will appreciate your service recxjake.

/*shudder*
Shudder indeed, but she couldn't be any worse than the piece of shit that's in there now.
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Old 01-31-2007, 12:16 AM   #34
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Shudder indeed, but she couldn't be any worse than the piece of shit that's in there now.
She is a women prone to Mood Swings. She might get pissed of at Bill and start a war. Once she is Pres-Monica Lewinsky will mysteriously come up missing.
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Old 01-31-2007, 12:18 AM   #35
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My advice is stay in school and finish up. If your still serious go in as an officer. Much better pay scale. I am sure you can find the pay scales online.
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Old 01-31-2007, 12:22 AM   #36
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Old 01-31-2007, 12:23 AM   #37
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Shudder indeed, but she couldn't be any worse than the piece of shit that's in there now.


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Old 01-31-2007, 12:23 AM   #38
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My advice is stay in school and finish up. If your still serious go in as an officer. Much better pay scale. I am sure you can find the pay scales online.
True but he will gave the respect (assuming he is not an ass) of the enlisted men if he goes in as an enlisted man first, then after getting the degree he goes to OCS and gets his butter bar.
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Old 01-31-2007, 12:55 AM   #39
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Thank you, I guess the main reason I was thinking guard was that it would give me the best chance to finish up my undergrad, and go to law school... I mean what is all this stuff I hear about one weekend a month, two weeks a year?
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Old 01-31-2007, 01:52 AM   #40
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Old 01-31-2007, 09:26 AM   #41
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One thing that pisses me off here at college is the fact that we are at war, and none of us act like we are affected. We get ****ing drunk 3 or 4 nights a week, buy new clothes, eat out, have nice new t.v.'s, cars, etc....
But that's how the President says we can do our part. You just don't get it. You're already helping the war effort.
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Old 01-31-2007, 09:33 AM   #42
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True but he will gave the respect (assuming he is not an ass) of the enlisted men if he goes in as an enlisted man first, then after getting the degree he goes to OCS and gets his butter bar.

that's true, in a line unit. But if he wants to go to law school he will probably be repaying his College loans with money from the army while he works in legal affairs or JAG. He can get college over with faster by waiting to join, if he can financially afford to wait.

as far as guards or reserve, I still say reserves, I do not know everything about the guards, but if he were my son with these same two choices I would tell him reserves. Pays the same, can deploy also, (actually more deployments in the guard, because they go to natural disasters too), but the resources are less. The only thing that would change my point of view is if the guards had better retirement. I don't know how their time / point growth rates compare to the reserves.
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Old 01-31-2007, 09:34 AM   #43
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I'm actually thinking about going back into the reserves as a warrant officer, have a preliminary interview this weekend.
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There's a reason they offer 20k to fill these positions. They suck.

If you want to pay for Law School, let the military do it for you in exchange for military law service after you graduate. My buddy did this, they paid his way through Drake, and his position as a military lawyer pays a lot.
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There's a reason they offer 20k to fill these positions. They suck.

If you want to pay for Law School, let the military do it for you in exchange for military law service after you graduate. My buddy did this, they paid his way through Drake, and his position as a military lawyer pays a lot.


This is a smart / good message, it's what I tried to say a few posts ago.
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