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Old 02-03-2007, 03:29 PM  
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Good Lord: 121 Killed in Iraq Bombing

By STEVEN R. HURST, Associated Press Writer
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BAGHDAD, Iraq - A suicide bomber driving a truck loaded with explosives hidden beneath cooking oil, canned food and bags of flour obliterated a Baghdad food market on Saturday, killing at least 121 people in one of the most fearsome attacks in the capital since the U.S. invasion in 2003.
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Old 02-03-2007, 06:22 PM   #31
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Pretty sure 98% of Iraq's populace felt it was pretty safe to let their kids go play in the streets under Saddam. Now whole familes die because Saddam isn't there to control the ****ing idiots blowing themselves up.

Now, if you notice, I did NOT say it was good in Iraq under Saddam, it was horrible there, absolutely horrible... BUT it didn't get better after the US invasion, for 98% of the people it got much worse.
I disagree, please ask the Kurds if that’s the case, oh no you cant they we gassed. There are many Middle Eastern countries that maintain control with out resorting to murder. Its the Iraqi populace that needs to set up here. While they complain about the violence and blame the US its they who are at fault. THEY support this movement, take a stand. Tell your husband, you brother, your son to stop the violence, stop funneling money take control of you future and let us get the hell out.
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Old 02-03-2007, 06:23 PM   #32
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Old 02-03-2007, 06:24 PM   #33
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Are you sure it wasn't just John Goodman that got blown up, and they just thought it was 121 people?


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Old 02-03-2007, 06:26 PM   #34
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We should empty our prison system of everyone that is sentenced to life or the death penalty, put em in plane drop them off in iraq/iran and bring our troops home. Give the prisoners some guns/ammo/food/water and tell them if you live you're free.
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Old 02-03-2007, 06:32 PM   #35
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The thing is, when we pull out of Iraq, the Shiites and the Sunnis will wage civil war there.
You're a little late. They are in a civil war. Some experts have said they have been in a civil war for at least a year now.

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We will have no conduit for trade in oil. You pick a side, the other will make trade for you more miserable.
Bush administration should of thought about this before going in.
So long as people need customers, they can't necessarily choose who they are.
The big bad SH sold his oil to us still.


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In economic terms, both those sects hating us keeps Iran and Saudi Arabia in check. Sourcing thru Kuwait, even though it's the world's largest producer/ sq. mi., has its benefits.
I don't understand this one. I know Iran and Saudis don't care for one another as there is a Shia-Sunni divide in the Arab world. But keeping SH in there is what was a check between Iran and SA. Now we have a Shia (Iran) crescent in the area.

Whole thing was a dumb move. Whats worse, is a war with Iran is being planned to boot.
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Old 02-03-2007, 07:05 PM   #36
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You only post the bad things that happen under the occupation what about all the good things that are happening.
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Old 02-03-2007, 07:06 PM   #37
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I wonder if we'll make it to 50 posts before this gets moved to DC.
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Old 02-03-2007, 07:20 PM   #38
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I wonder if we'll make it to 50 posts before this gets moved to DC.
I probably should have put it there, but figured it would get more attention here...

If it needs to be moved --- that's fine with me...
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Old 02-03-2007, 07:22 PM   #39
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I probably should have put it there, but figured it would get more attention here...

If it needs to be moved --- that's fine with me...
I have no problem with it. Usually any thread that even flirts with being political is ushered to DC pronto like.
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Old 02-03-2007, 07:32 PM   #40
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I have no problem with it. Usually any thread that even flirts with being political is ushered to DC pronto like.
I don't voice myself on politics too much... I might visit the D.C. Lounge once in awhile and do some reading, but as far as posting, I usually stay away from it...

I'm more content on the sports world...
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Old 02-03-2007, 07:38 PM   #41
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This is thread-worthy, just because of the high head count. Sad deal.

This ain't civil war, yet. When we're gone, things will escalate way beyond the way things are now. When Iran steps further in, we'll let them piss away their resources so that they can't afford to build a nuke bomb.
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Old 02-03-2007, 07:42 PM   #42
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You're a little late. They are in a civil war. Some experts have said they have been in a civil war for at least a year now.


Bush administration should of thought about this before going in.
So long as people need customers, they can't necessarily choose who they are.
The big bad SH sold his oil to us still.


I don't understand this one. I know Iran and Saudis don't care for one another as there is a Shia-Sunni divide in the Arab world. But keeping SH in there is what was a check between Iran and SA. Now we have a Shia (Iran) crescent in the area.

Whole thing was a dumb move. Whats worse, is a war with Iran is being planned to boot.
Yeah let's keep driving the point home about how stupid the Bush administration was for going in, that'll solve all of our problems.
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Old 02-03-2007, 07:48 PM   #43
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Yeah let's keep driving the point home about how stupid the Bush administration was for going in, that'll solve all of our problems.
Yeah well when someone says the place is NOT in civil war or waitin' for the place to be one, when they already are....some points need to be driven home over and over as a reminder that it's not worth it to stay and get more of our guys killed... especially when a claim of not being able to get oil is presented. We can always buy oil.

Oh, and 70% of Americans feel the same way too.
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Old 02-03-2007, 08:15 PM   #44
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Yeah well when someone says the place is NOT in civil war or waitin' for the place to be one, when they already are....some points need to be driven home over and over as a reminder that it's not worth it to stay and get more of our guys killed... especially when a claim of not being able to get oil is presented. We can always buy oil.

Oh, and 70% of Americans feel the same way too.
I'm fine with discussion about what to do now, but mindlessly piling on Bush for going in and acting like you knew all along that it was going to go like this is a bit arrogant on your part. I think we can all agree in hindsight it was a bad idea to go in, but we did and now we have to deal with it. Save your anti-Bush bullshit for DC.
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Old 02-03-2007, 09:10 PM   #45
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This fued between Sunni and Shia is not unlike the Catholic/Protestant clash in Europe. Both regions were dominated by central control (kingdoms in Europe Kingdoms and tyrants in ME). Both saw brutallity on both sides of the religious devide. People used the devide for political and personal reasons (like Henry the eigth or French change of Nante agreements). It is religiously driven. The US avoided this by insisting upon religious freedom.

As such I think we need to get out of harms way and just try and keep the lid on the sectarian action. I can see that once Americans are sort of out of the way, the different religious groups will exhaust their efforts on each other. And that isn't bad. We can't make a difference at this point. Bring the patriots home and defend the hemisphere.
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