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Old 02-27-2007, 03:25 AM   #1
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Does it piss you off so much that ppl believe in god.
I believe in a greater power/god/whatever you want to call it, but I am not religious. You see, I never needed the concept of religion to understand what is morally wrong and right. And anyway, 99% of the religious people are hypocrites (1% being the truly devoted monks who just pray all day and live the simplest life possible in some monastery).

But yeah, religious people do piss me off, they ruin the world for everyone, always have and always will.

And I'm sorry, but I like I said, I don't believe in fairy tales - a category into which resurrection falls. And I don't mean to offend you, it's just what I believe.
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Old 02-27-2007, 03:30 AM   #2
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I believe in a greater power/god/whatever you want to call it, but I am not religious. You see, I never needed the concept of religion to understand what is morally wrong and right. And anyway, 99% of the religious people are hypocrites (1% being the truly devoted monks who just pray all day and live the simplest life possible in some monastery).

But yeah, religious people do piss me off, they ruin the world for everyone, always have and always will.

And I'm sorry, but I like I said, I don't believe in fairy tales - a category into which resurrection falls. And I don't mean to offend you, it's just what I believe.
I dont see why you Care what ppl do with there own personal shit.

So when Dieing ppl Find religion you automatically think of them has hypocrites?
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Old 02-27-2007, 03:33 AM   #3
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I dont see why you Care what ppl do with there own personal shit.

So when Dieing ppl Find religion you automatically think of them has hypocrites?
I don't care that much really. I'd equate it to being pissed at stupid people for being stupid. Know what I mean? Stupid people ruin the world for everyone, kind of like the religious people.
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Old 02-27-2007, 03:37 AM   #4
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I don't care that much really. I'd equate it to being pissed at stupid people for being stupid. Know what I mean? Stupid people ruin the world for everyone, kind of like the religious people.
I guess we should all apologize for our beliefs to you because what we feel privately ruins your world publicly.

Sorry for that.
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Old 02-27-2007, 03:41 AM   #5
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I guess we should all apologize for our beliefs to you because what we feel privately ruins your world publicly.

Sorry for that.
Are you saying that religion has never and currently does not affect the socio-econmic affairs of the world (not even talking about the stupid ass wars and conflicts throughout the history of the world based on religious beliefs)? I'm not talking about Christianity here, I'm talking about RELIGION.
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Old 02-27-2007, 03:45 AM   #6
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Are you saying that religion has never and currently does not affect the socio-econmic affairs of the world (not even talking about the stupid ass wars and conflicts throughout the history of the world based on religious beliefs)? I'm not talking about Christianity here, I'm talking about RELIGION.
People would just find something else to wage war about raceism power greed Jealousy.
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Are you saying that religion has never and currently does not affect the socio-econmic affairs of the world (not even talking about the stupid ass wars and conflicts throughout the history of the world based on religious beliefs)? I'm not talking about Christianity here, I'm talking about RELIGION.
I won't argue that 99% of all wars have religion at the core. But, because I have a religious belief does not make me a war monger either. A good percentage of that 99% don't want war. Unfortunately, we hear from the ones that do want war.
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Old 02-27-2007, 03:59 AM   #8
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I won't argue that 99% of all wars have religion at the core. But, because I have a religious belief does not make me a war monger either. A good percentage of that 99% don't want war. Unfortunately, we hear from the ones that do want war.
I didn't say you were a warmonger, and "wars" was just a part of my argument.

But let me ask you something, WTF is the point of religion anyway when the same people who go to church also lie, steal, envy, rape little boys and girls, are corrupt, have premarital sex, wage wars in the name of god (apparently killing is OK if the victim is of a different religion), etc?

It's just there to give people an illusion of some kind of purpose and to make death a little less scary. Then the people become so devoted to that fake purpose that they start changing the society to fit their own ideas, which aren't all that great really for the most part.

Don't get me wrong, the people who wrote the Bible were very smart. It became a great tool for stupid people to learn great lessons about society and how you should act in order for that society to function, the magic shit was put in there to instill fear in them so they would follow the rules when no one was watching.

But guess what, it's been done before the bible was ever written. The day some half monkeys/half dudes started living together, they signed a contract that said "Don't kill me and I won't kill you, don't steal from me and I won't steal from you, don't **** my girl and I won't **** yours... you get the point."

And yeah... I think my tirade is over for tonight, I gotta go to bed.
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Are you saying that religion has never and currently does not affect the socio-econmic affairs of the world (not even talking about the stupid ass wars and conflicts throughout the history of the world based on religious beliefs)? I'm not talking about Christianity here, I'm talking about RELIGION.
Yup - Just like government, including the socialistic regimes you dream about.

However, on the other hand, religion has also fostered more charity, arts, exploration, and businesses than any other socio-economic group I can think of.
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Old 02-27-2007, 11:21 PM   #10
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Yup - Just like government, including the socialistic regimes you dream about.
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However, on the other hand, religion has also fostered more charity, arts, exploration, and businesses than any other socio-economic group I can think of.
I wouldn't agree with any of that statement, even though I know why you think that. Let's see exploration - missionaries would be sent in to clean up only after the places were already discovered (as far as Christianity is concerned). I'm sure some expeditions were commissioned by the church in it's power hay day, but certainly it wasn't the majority if you take the whole history of the mankind.

Charity? Maybe recently and it's always on very small scale, but again, if you look at the whole picture, religion has brought more suffering than anything else.

Arts? I can see that.

Business? You have to be more specific.
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I don't care that much really. I'd equate it to being pissed at stupid people for being stupid. Know what I mean? Stupid people ruin the world for everyone, kind of like the religious people.
I dont see how me going to church every wednesday is runing the world.
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I dont see how me going to church every wednesday is runing the world.
That's because you're a simpleton who lives in his own little world completely oblivious to anything and taking everything for granted. But that's just my guess.

Ignorance is bliss, I know.
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That's because you're a simpleton who lives in his own little world completely oblivious to anything and taking everything for granted. But that's just my guess.

Ignorance is bliss, I know.
So my Associate degree high school diploma and 116IQ are all null and void becuase I go to church?
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Old 02-27-2007, 04:03 AM   #15
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So my Associate degree high school diploma and 116IQ are all null and void becuase I go to church?
WTF did you garduate from, Uncle Johnny's school of spelling? They way you talk/type you sound like a total reerun. At least put a little effort into it when you're trying to say that you're smart.
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