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Old 02-27-2007, 03:45 AM   #1
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Are you saying that religion has never and currently does not affect the socio-econmic affairs of the world (not even talking about the stupid ass wars and conflicts throughout the history of the world based on religious beliefs)? I'm not talking about Christianity here, I'm talking about RELIGION.
I won't argue that 99% of all wars have religion at the core. But, because I have a religious belief does not make me a war monger either. A good percentage of that 99% don't want war. Unfortunately, we hear from the ones that do want war.
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Old 02-27-2007, 03:59 AM   #2
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I won't argue that 99% of all wars have religion at the core. But, because I have a religious belief does not make me a war monger either. A good percentage of that 99% don't want war. Unfortunately, we hear from the ones that do want war.
I didn't say you were a warmonger, and "wars" was just a part of my argument.

But let me ask you something, WTF is the point of religion anyway when the same people who go to church also lie, steal, envy, rape little boys and girls, are corrupt, have premarital sex, wage wars in the name of god (apparently killing is OK if the victim is of a different religion), etc?

It's just there to give people an illusion of some kind of purpose and to make death a little less scary. Then the people become so devoted to that fake purpose that they start changing the society to fit their own ideas, which aren't all that great really for the most part.

Don't get me wrong, the people who wrote the Bible were very smart. It became a great tool for stupid people to learn great lessons about society and how you should act in order for that society to function, the magic shit was put in there to instill fear in them so they would follow the rules when no one was watching.

But guess what, it's been done before the bible was ever written. The day some half monkeys/half dudes started living together, they signed a contract that said "Don't kill me and I won't kill you, don't steal from me and I won't steal from you, don't **** my girl and I won't **** yours... you get the point."

And yeah... I think my tirade is over for tonight, I gotta go to bed.
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Old 02-27-2007, 04:06 AM   #3
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I didn't say you were a warmonger, and "wars" was just a part of my argument.

But let me ask you something, WTF is the point of religion anyway when the same people who go to church also lie, steal, envy, rape little boys and girls, are corrupt, have premarital sex, wage wars in the name of god (apparently killing is OK if the victim is of a different religion), etc?

It's just there to give people an illusion of some kind of purpose and to make death a little less scary. Then the people become so devoted to that fake purpose that they start changing the society to fit their own ideas, which aren't all that great really for the most part.

Don't get me wrong, the people who wrote the Bible were very smart. It became a great tool for stupid people to learn great lessons about society and how you should act in order for that society to function, the magic shit was put in there to instill fear in them so they would follow the rules when no one was watching.

But guess what, it's been done before the bible was ever written. The day some half monkeys/half dudes started living together, they signed a contract that said "Don't kill me and I won't kill you, don't steal from me and I won't steal from you, don't **** my girl and I won't **** yours... you get the point."

And yeah... I think my tirade is over for tonight, I gotta go to bed.
I am sorry you feel that way.
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Old 02-27-2007, 06:36 AM   #4
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Then the people become so devoted to that fake purpose that they start changing the society to fit their own ideas, which aren't all that great really for the most part.
Just a quick thought here:


How is this different (making it a bad thing in your opinion) than you or anybody else wanting to make the world a specific way to fit your ideas?
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Old 02-27-2007, 07:25 AM   #5
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Old 02-27-2007, 09:59 AM   #6
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What would a family tomb of his be in Jerusalem for? You family was buried where you came from in that culture, so if he did have a family tomb that contained his father's remains, it would have been in Galilee.
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Old 02-27-2007, 10:13 AM   #7
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What would a family tomb of his be in Jerusalem for? You family was buried where you came from in that culture, so if he did have a family tomb that contained his father's remains, it would have been in Galilee.
Not if Mary Magdalene bitched and bitched at him because she saw some really nice plots in Jerusalem, and would really like to be placed to rest there. Finally he told her he would agree to it as long as she would shut the hell up about it.
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Old 02-27-2007, 11:10 PM   #8
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What would a family tomb of his be in Jerusalem for? You family was buried where you came from in that culture, so if he did have a family tomb that contained his father's remains, it would have been in Galilee.
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