Albert Lewis joins Chiefs Hall of Fame

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Originally Posted by frazod

I'm not happy about it either, but this certainly isn't as offensive as inducting Bronco Neil.

Yeah, I don't like that one either. But at the time, becoming a Raider was the ultimate slap in the face.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by Guru

Yeah, I don't like that one either. But at the time, becoming a Raider was the ultimate slap in the face.

I don't recall Lewis dissing the fans like Bronco Neil did.

Also, Lewis enjoyed zero success with Oakland. He was never actively involved in cheating that resulted in us being bounced from the playoffs and sending the Raiders to a Super Bowl.

[gblowfish]

I'm against it.

When Albert was here he was my favorite Chief. He was a great player.

And yes, he crossed swords with King Carl. But so did a lot of other players, and they didn't defect to the evil Raiders. As a free agent, he could have chosen to play anywhere. He chose to be a Raider. When he did that, he was dead to me.

I can't abide any Chiefs player who willfully chooses to leave KC and play for the Raiders or Donks. Sorry, for me it goes beyond just "business." It's a slap in the face to the fans, and a disgrace to our best players who fought with everything they had against the Raiders and Donks over the years. Hell, why not put Ken Stabler and John Elway on our ring? They both had lots of really good games in Arrowhead, and sure played well here. C'mon people, do you think the Packers have any ex-Bears on their ring? Think the Cowboys have any ex-Redskins on their ring?

It's the same reason I was totally against putting Neilbonics on the ring. I'd be against Dale Carter on the ring for the same reason. But hey, after they put Steadman up there, the ring is totally meaningless to me now anyway. Why not put Tony DiPardo, Bill Grigsby and Warpaint the Horse up there too?

On the day they induct Albert, I'll get up, turn my back, go up to the concession stand, get a beer, take a leak, and come back to my seat. I won't cheer for a guy who ended his career with the Raiders.

Chiefs who willfully became Raiders or Donks are not worthy to be included with players like Len Dawson, Willie Lanier, Derreck Thomas or Bobby Bell.
That's just the way I feel.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by gblowfish

I'm against it.

When Albert was here he was my favorite Chief. He was a great player.

And yes, he crossed swords with King Carl. But so did a lot of other players, and they didn't defect to the evil Raiders. As a free agent, he could have chosen to play anywhere. He chose to be a Raider. When he did that, he was dead to me.

I can't abide any Chiefs player who willfully chooses to leave KC and play for the Raiders or Donks. Sorry, for me it goes beyond just "business." It's a slap in the face to the fans, and a disgrace to our best players who fought with everything they had against the Raiders and Donks over the years. Hell, why not put Ken Stabler and John Elway on our ring? They both had lots of really good games in Arrowhead, and sure played well here. C'mon people, do you think the Packers have any ex-Bears on their Ring? Think the Cowboys have any ex-Redskins on their ring?

It's the same reason I was totally against putting Neilbonics on the ring. I'd be against Dale Carter on the ring for the same reason. But hey, after they put Steadman up there, the ring is totally worthless meaningless to me now anyway. Why not put Tony DiPardo, Bill Grigsby and Warpaint the Horse up there too?

On the day they induct Albert, I'll get up, turn my back, go up to the concession stand, get a beer, take a leak, and come back to my seat. I won't cheer for a guy who ended his career with the Raiders. Just can't do it.

Chiefs who willfully became Raiders or Donks are not worthy to be included with players like Len Dawson, Willie Lanier, Derreck Thomas or Bobby Bell.
That's just the way I feel.

I was at the game when they inducted Bronco Neil. I held up a Bronco sticker with a red circle/slash over it and booed throughout the length of the ceremony. Unfortunately, I doubt if anybody heard it from my nosebleed seats. I know you have great seats - were there people booing loud enough to be heard on the field? God, I hope so.

And I agree, the Ring took a serious hit when that traitor scumbag was inducted. Might as well put Elway in, too.

[gblowfish]

Originally Posted by frazod

I was at the game when they inducted Bronco Neil. I held up a Bronco sticker with a red circle/slash over it and booed throughout the length of the ceremony. Unfortunately, I doubt if anybody heard it from my nosebleed seats. I know you have great seats - were there people booing loud enough to be heard on the field? God, I hope so.

And I agree, the Ring took a serious hit when that traitor scumbag was inducted. Might as well put Elway in, too.

I got up and took a whizz during the NeilBonics thing, so I don't know how many people boo'ed him. I didn't want to watch it.

A lot of Chiefs fans have no sense of history, or don't care about this kind of stuff. They see the game as just a day of entertainment, like going to a rock concert. I'm sure a lot of current Chiefs fans don't even know who Albert Lewis is, or particulary care who he is. These are the same kind of fans who come out of the stadium laughing and cutting up after a Chiefs loss. That's always bothered me a lot, but some people don't care that much if we lose.

I guess since football has become such a business, maybe things like tradition and rivalries don't mean squat to a majority of fans. Those kind of detached fans have the attention span of an Irish Setter, and only remember what happened in last week's game. It means more to me. Maybe it shouldn't. Every year I have to re-evaluate my emotional attachment to the Chiefs. You can only get hit in the face with a frying pan so many times before you learn to duck.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by gblowfish

I got up and took a whizz during the NeilBonics thing, so I don't know how many people boo'ed him. I didn't want to watch it.

A lot of Chiefs fans have no sense of history, or don't care about this kind of stuff. They see the game as just a day of entertainment, like going to a rock concert. I'm sure a lot of current Chiefs fans don't even know who Albert Lewis is, or particulary care who he is. These are the same kind of fans who come out of the stadium laughing and cutting up after a Chiefs loss. That's always bothered me a lot, but some people don't care that much if we lose.

I guess since football has become such a business, maybe things like tradition and rivalries don't mean squat to a majority of fans. Those kind of detached fans have the attention span of an Irish Setter, and only remember what happened in last week's game. It means more to me. Maybe it shouldn't. Every year I have to re-evaluate my emotional attachment to the Chiefs. You can only get hit in the face with a frying pan so many times before you learn to duck.

Hey George....i used to feel exactly the same way that you do but then i gave it up.

Over the past 15 years or so (roughly since free agency became what it is today) I realized the players themselves dont have any more loyalty or pride in the uniform they choose to wear. Its all about the $$$$$$ to them.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by gblowfish

I'm against it.

When Albert was here he was my favorite Chief. He was a great player.

And yes, he crossed swords with King Carl. But so did a lot of other players, and they didn't defect to the evil Raiders. As a free agent, he could have chosen to play anywhere. He chose to be a Raider. When he did that, he was dead to me.

I can't abide any Chiefs player who willfully chooses to leave KC and play for the Raiders or Donks. Sorry, for me it goes beyond just "business." It's a slap in the face to the fans, and a disgrace to our best players who fought with everything they had against the Raiders and Donks over the years. Hell, why not put Ken Stabler and John Elway on our ring? They both had lots of really good games in Arrowhead, and sure played well here. C'mon people, do you think the Packers have any ex-Bears on their ring? Think the Cowboys have any ex-Redskins on their ring?

It's the same reason I was totally against putting Neilbonics on the ring. I'd be against Dale Carter on the ring for the same reason. But hey, after they put Steadman up there, the ring is totally meaningless to me now anyway. Why not put Tony DiPardo, Bill Grigsby and Warpaint the Horse up there too?

On the day they induct Albert, I'll get up, turn my back, go up to the concession stand, get a beer, take a leak, and come back to my seat. I won't cheer for a guy who ended his career with the Raiders.

Chiefs who willfully became Raiders or Donks are not worthy to be included with players like Len Dawson, Willie Lanier, Derreck Thomas or Bobby Bell.
That's just the way I feel.

Lewis was my favorite when he was a Chief, also.

But when he signed with the Raiders, he could kiss Al's hairy white dead ass as far as I'm concerned.

Neither he or Smith have any ****ing business on the Chiefs RoF.

Because of those guys, and Steadman, I really don't give a rat's ass about the RoF anymore, either.

[Skip Towne]

The Chiefs HOF doesn't mean much to me. Not only does it have Raiders and Donkeys in it but it has Jack Steadman. The man who engineered 20 years of losing. (The seats were empty as well)

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Originally Posted by frazod

I don't recall Lewis dissing the fans like Bronco Neil did.

Also, Lewis enjoyed zero success with Oakland. He was never actively involved in cheating that resulted in us being bounced from the playoffs and sending the Raiders to a Super Bowl.

Well I cant argue with that one.