Graham signs with Denver - Page 7

ClevelandBronco · 03-06-2007, 09:50 PM

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_5370262

got him.

Amnorix · 03-06-2007, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

"Davis
Winslow
Witten
Clark
Cooley
McMichael"

reach...none of these guys have the all around game like Graham.

Welll....I won't pretend that I focus on the blocking skills of tight ends around the league, but some of those guys are better receivers, overall, than Graham. McMichael certainly is.

Graham can be a beast in the field, but on occasion he has some beastly drops. And I'm thinking that the Pats decided to use him as a blocker most of the time for good reason.

HolmeZz · 03-06-2007, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Sewell

I think some of you guys stopped watching any Broncos games once Cutler started playing is my guess...

Nah, I think we all watched you guys choke away that home game to the Niners.

Chiefs Pantalones · 03-06-2007, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

He's smarter because TG is too stupid to leave the Chiefs for a winner, or at least a team with half a chance. What do you think Gonzo would get on the open market? I think he would net 20 million in bonus money alone. You guys are lucky to have him...else you would really suck.

I'm glad we have Gonzo.

And I'm glad you have Cutler to throw balls to our secondary.

Can't wait.

Hammock Parties · 03-06-2007, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by (Zach)

ICE BURN!!!!!!!!!

Garcia Bronco · 03-06-2007, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by HolmeZz

You're silly if you'd take Graham over any of them.

bullshit..all those guys are pretending...and all of them Houdini...because the like to disappear.

**dirk digler** · 03-06-2007, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

He's smarter because TG is too stupid to leave the Chiefs for a winner, or at least a team with half a chance. What do you think Gonzo would get on the open market? I think he would net 20 million in bonus money alone. You guys are lucky to have him...else you would really suck.

I like the fact that Tony or any other player would want to play on just 1 team their whole pro career.

Chiefs Pantalones · 03-06-2007, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Welll....I won't pretend that I focus on the blocking skills of tight ends around the league, but some of those guys are better receivers, overall, than Graham. McMichael certainly is.

Graham can be a beast in the field, but on occasion he has some beastly drops. And I'm thinking that the Pats decided to use him as a blocker most of the time for good reason.

Watson is alot better than Graham, IMO, don't you think so?

|Zach| · 03-06-2007, 10:53 PM

I don't even think Cutler is bad...that post just...made me laugh. Listing those names like some epic post was taking place...and the melodramatic... "What is Gunther going to do?"

Bwahahaha

**OnTheWarpath15** · 03-06-2007, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Sewell

I think some of you guys stopped watching any Broncos games once Cutler started playing is my guess...

I watched him long enough to remind me of Jake Plummer.

That Seattle game was fantastic.

He beat up on the Arizona Cardinals.

Wow.

BigRock · 03-06-2007, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Get a clue? How about you take your own advice. Jason Dunn is a beast in the running game. He's widely considered the best run blocking tight end in the league. He's basically a sixth offensive lineman.

$5 says he thought that picture was Tony Gonzalez.

Mile High Mania · 03-06-2007, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

*cough* You did note that we were winning SBs before Watson was even drafted, and that Graham wasn't setting the world on fire with his receiving then either, right?

Here's the thing -- on any given play he can only EITHER block or catch. He can't really do both on the same play. The more you want him to be the great blocker that he is, the less chances he will have to catch it.

One rumor here is that he left partly because he wants to do more than just block a helluva lot, which may likely be true.

Yeah, there's an article online at either the Post or RMN where he says his #'s aren't huge b/c NE used him more as a blocker and he wants to be involved more as an actual receiving TE. That was a red flag to me b/c I like the rapport b/t Cutler and Scheffler.

We'll see what happens. I like Graham and I think he has so much to offer, but a lot of that appears to be the type of stuff that he didn't like doing so much of in NE. So, who knows.

Amnorix · 03-06-2007, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

If memory serves, he's never broken the 40 catch barrier in a season.

With or without Watson on the roster.

That's probably about right.

Don't get carried away with his genius either. It's established, I believe, that he couldn't master the harder of the two TE positions that the Patriots have in their offensive. One is the X and the other the H, or somesuch (I'm in offseason mode and it's late and I'm stupid, I'll admit). One reaosn why Watson was brought in was because Graham couldn't master the one that involved the more complicated changes in sets and adjustments on the fly as a receiver.

Perhaps in a simpler offense (but I wouldn't think Denver's is simpler?!) he might do better as a receiver.

But, of course, Shanarat is no dummy, so I'd think he knows WTF he wants to dow ith Graham and whether he can handle that job or not.

Steve Sewell · 03-06-2007, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

*cough* You did note that we were winning SBs before Watson was even drafted, and that Graham wasn't setting the world on fire with his receiving then either, right?

Here's the thing -- on any given play he can only EITHER block or catch. He can't really do both on the same play. The more you want him to be the great blocker that he is, the less chances he will have to catch it.

One rumor here is that he left partly because he wants to do more than just block a helluva lot, which may likely be true.

Thats not a rumor, he actually said that about his role with the Pats to a Denver reporter, BTW. He wants to be utilized more for his offensive skills.

And I do know that you won a SB before you arrived. I don't know what the relevance of that comment was to my statement. It's not like I was attributing the Pats success to Graham alone.

I've been watching him for quite some time (Buff fan) and he definitely has offensive skills...a lot more than your run of the mill blocking TE. Add to that he is an very, very good blocker, and it makes him a really good fit for the Denver offense. Watson eclipses him in offensive category...he's incredible.

ClevelandBronco · 03-06-2007, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

I like the fact that Tony or any other player would want to play on just 1 team their whole pro career.

Especially when they're as good as Gonzo. It just feels uncomfortable the first time you see them in the wrong uniform.

Jerry Rice just never looked right as a Raider.

**dirk digler** · 03-06-2007, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Sewell

I think some of you guys stopped watching any Broncos games once Cutler started playing is my guess...

Yeah I watched the Chargers crush your team 48-20. Man Cutler looked awesome during that game.

I mean that whopping 188 yds passing was just incredible.

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