For those that want to draft a WR in the first round....

[chop]

Doesn't look like it will happen.

http://www.kansascity.com/160/story/69032.html

Chiefs won’t get grabby

Team doesn’t place a high priority on wide receivers in the upcoming NFL draft.

By ADAM TEICHER

The Kansas City Star


Herm Edwards was talking recently about the players who will catch passes for the Chiefs next season. He took care to mention two young wide receivers, Jeff Webb and Chris Hannon, even though they had three receptions between them as rookies last season.
“We’ve got two young guys, and I want to see whether they can play or not,” Edwards said. “I know one thing: We don’t cover them in practice very well.”
Is it just draft talk, designed to convince the NFL’s 31 other teams the Chiefs have no intention of selecting a receiver in the upcoming player lottery?
Perhaps. But know two things. First, Edwards isn’t big, even in the days leading to the draft, on talking up prospects he doesn’t have expectations for.
The other is that the Chiefs don’t view improving the position as a top priority, certainly not as much as their fans do. They made no move in free-agency to sign a wide receiver.
The only top wide receiver known to be visiting with the Chiefs next week, when they intend to bring up to 30 draft prospects to Arrowhead Stadium, is Robert Meachem of Tennessee.
Among the top receivers not scheduled to visit are Sidney Rice of South Carolina, Steve Smith of USC, Dwayne Bowe and Craig Davis of LSU, Paul Williams of Fresno State and Yamon Figurs of Kansas State.
While this is insignificant taken alone, it is another indication the Chiefs believe they have bigger positional priorities in the draft, such as cornerback and defensive tackle.
The Chiefs could use another wide receiver and will probably select at least one. They may be content to wait until later in the draft to do it.
“When you draft a receiver in the first round, a lot of times it’s buyer beware,” Edwards said. “For some reason, it takes them a while. Most rookie receivers don’t come in and light it up their first year. They struggle. The dynamics have changed for those guys from college to the NFL. You have to understand that when you draft a receiver in the first round. A lot of them don’t play their first year and even when they play, they don’t live up to expectations.
“You can find guys to help you at wide receiver later in the draft, definitely.”
Unless a draft pick pushes his way into the playing rotation, starters Eddie Kennison and Samie Parker along with Webb and Hannon will be the top wide receivers next season.
The Chiefs are trying to trade Dante Hall, who hasn’t given them what they hoped as either a slot receiver or kick returner in recent seasons. He may be released if he isn’t traded.
The Chiefs are counting on dramatic improvement from Webb, a sixth-round pick last year, and Hannon, who wasn’t drafted. Webb is bigger and more physical, and Hannon is faster but must get stronger.
“They’ve got some talent,” Edwards said. “They have enough that they’ve earned the opportunity to try to play. That’s what we’ve emphasized. We’re trying to create competition.
“It’s just a matter of getting to the details of what we’re trying to do. Now they know what we want from them. They’re not just trying to figure out what to do. ”
To Webb and Hannon, it’s a gift that the Chiefs haven’t added a wide receiver, at least so far.
“That’s the coach’s decision,” Webb said. “I don’t know what they’re thinking. All I can do is work on Jeff Webb and try to be a good player.
“Hannon and I are doing our jobs right now. We’re working extra hours when it comes time to lift weights and (spending) extra hours out on the practice field with Brodie (Croyle).”
Kennison has been a regular at the offseason workouts since they began almost two weeks ago. He recently turned 34, an advanced age for a wide receiver.
But Kennison keeps himself in good physical condition. His streak of two straight 1,000-yard seasons was ended last year, but that had more to do with problems elsewhere in the Chiefs’ passing game than with any drop-off in Kennison’s play.
“I’m not going to let anybody else determine when I retire from this game,” he said. “I want to retire when I’m ready. And I’m not ready.
“I’m better at taking care of myself: diet, exercise, doing the things that are right all the time. I’m not a guy that hangs out in the nightspots. I’m not a drinker. I keep finding ways to do things better. The workouts continue to get better for me. It makes things easier. That’s my whole deal.”

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by milkman

True.

However if the Chiefs were in the position to draft him, would you take that risk?

if you rate him high you do ....... then you look to trade LJ instead of giving him a new huge contract.

[crazycoffey]

Originally Posted by milkman

True.

However if the Chiefs were in the position to draft him, would you take that risk?

I wouldn't, wasted pick IMO - even at 23. We have a style now and a good runner that fits that style, throwing AP in the mix would mess things up even if he didn't turn up bust. I like the idea of BPA, but there has to be a range, we have several needs and a few holes, but RB, TE, LB, S shouldn't be in our first round plans.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

I don't care who the Chiefs draft as long as they draft BPA.

[crazycoffey]

Originally Posted by Mecca

If I could spin it into trading Larry Johnson yea.....if not I probably wouldn't because they are almost carbon copies of each other, Petersons faster and a little more naturally talented but either way very similiar players.

AP is similar to LJ?


sorry for my last post then, I figured AP more priest holmes style, finesse type, I was wrong. I still don't know that I'd take him, we have something not broken, why fix it, fix the parts that aren't working well.

[LiL stumppy]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Ugh.......I HATE this philosphy you want offensive lineman be damned. This is how you end up with busts notice the DT's we've drafted.....

We have alot more holes than just line.......

Trading up to get a player means were going to have a bust? Trading down and gathering a bunch of prospects is what Herm said he wanted to do a month or two ago. I didn't saying that was the best thing to do,but thats what he wanted/wants to do.

[Mecca]

Adrian Peterson is 6'2 230........he's faster than LJ is but he runs sorta upright and is a big power back, he's very similiar. Little faster, little more naturally gifted but similiar none the less.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Mecca

If I could spin it into trading Larry Johnson yea.....if not I probably wouldn't because they are almost carbon copies of each other, Petersons faster and a little more naturally talented but either way very similiar players.

I think that Harrell very well could be the BPA available at 23, in spite of his inury history, and not as the result of the otherwise lack of depth and talent at the DT position.

He's a guy with talent and heart.

He, like Peterson, is someone I would take the risk with, because his injuries aren't the nagging type that red flag a player's desire.

They are the result of being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by LiL stumpy

Trading up to get a player means were going to have a bust? Trading down and gathering a bunch of prospects is what Herm said he wanted to do a month or two ago. I didn't saying that was the best thing to do,but thats what he wanted/wants to do.

Levi Brown is the only Tackle worth moving for and guess what he's gonna go between 10-15 more likely......that kinda move would require more than a team with our holes should be willing to give.

[crazycoffey]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Adrian Peterson is 6'2 230........he's faster than LJ is but he runs sorta upright and is a big power back, he's very similiar. Little faster, little more naturally gifted but similiar none the less.

I read the summary on him, he was out when MU played them and I didn't see him play. I didn't realize they were that similar, better hands, but still you take him, trade LJ and then he busts, man that's risky....

LJ is proving himself rather well, and not complaining about a big contract, I like him and don't think he's gonna burn out quick from the high load last year.

[LiL stumppy]

How often do 5th,6th,7th round players pan out? I would rather have 2 solding players than a alot of prospects.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by crazycoffey

I wouldn't, wasted pick IMO - even at 23. We have a style now and a good runner that fits that style, throwing AP in the mix would mess things up even if he didn't turn up bust. I like the idea of BPA, but there has to be a range, we have several needs and a few holes, but RB, TE, LB, S shouldn't be in our first round plans.

Mecca's right.

Peterson fits into Herman ****ing Edwards' offense perfectly, and he would give us options with regards to LJ.

Also, there's no way I'd pass up either LB or S if they are the BPA.

Donnie Edwards and N Harris are stopgap measures, IMO, and we need to look to the future, as well as the present.

And the reality is, at safety, both young guys are unproven, and we lack depth there anyway.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by LiL stumpy

How often do 5th,6th,7th round players pan out? I would rather have 2 solding players than a alot of prospects.

Moving from 23-13 as an example would cost us probably a 2 and a 4.....so saying 5th,6th,7th isn't right it would take atleast one of our day 1 picks and likely a day 2 also.

[crazycoffey]

all in all, good conversations. I understand the reasoning behind BPA, but I'm a balance type guy and think there are still some limits, I would like to get a good talented guy that helps us this year not in the next couple of years, with our first round pick.

I will say this, I'm ready for the draft, I want to see how this all unflolds, should be fun.

I will also say, no matter who we pick; what's the over/under that Logical hates the pick?

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by crazycoffey

all in all, good conversations. I understand the reasoning behind BPA, but I'm a balance type guy and think there are still some limits, I would like to get a good talented guy that helps us this year not in the next couple of years, with our first round pick.

I will say this, I'm ready for the draft, I want to see how this all unflolds, should be fun.

I will also say, no matter who we pick; what's the over/under that Logical hates the pick?

Don't worry I'm great on draft day if I don't like the pick I'll swear constantly and throw things at the TV.

I think a WR would start for us from day 1 and be atleast as productive as what we had there last year and that being in his developmental 1st year.

[LiL stumppy]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Moving from 23-13 as an example would cost us probably a 2 and a 4.....so saying 5th,6th,7th isn't right it would take atleast one of our day 1 picks and likely a day 2 also.

I would do it in a heartbeat. Get a Levi Brown. Get a good prospect at CB in the third. And maybe get some good speical team players in the late rounds.