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Old 07-01-2005, 11:08 AM  
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Football 101...Training Camp for the Fan.

We have many Young posters, and fans who have never played football on the board. Some have vast football knowledge and could educate some of us that have things to learn, so we can more than nod our heads and pretend to understand the conversation, thereby getting more benefit in season conversation.

If you have a question, don't be afraid to ask it. Myself, someone who knows will explain it the best we can, or link it on the web. In this thread, there should be no such thing as a "stupid Football related question".

For those who really know.....pick a topic and explain it in a way that a Jr High kid could understand.

Offensive Line Schemes...the difference between zone blocking etc.
Cover 2 defense, zone defense, man defense.....1,2 and 3 gap DLine techniques.........whats an Hback....the difference between a SS and FS and their responsibilities.

Let the questions and Answers rip. this could be a great educational experience. Lets Go planet, Get the Rookies in Game-day Shape.
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Old 07-22-2007, 11:11 PM   #106
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Does Mc Graw know Krav Magrah? I mean, if Tamba is studying Judo, it might make sense.

Real question: If LJ is a paid player through this seasopn, how can he "Hold out"? Is that like a one-person labor strike? And is that legal?
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Old 07-22-2007, 11:12 PM   #107
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Real question: If LJ is a paid player through this season, how can he "Hold out"? Is that like a one-person labor strike? And is that legal?
Happens all the time. Emmitt Smith did in 1992.

Teams can also cut a player at any time so it works both ways.
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Old 07-22-2007, 11:14 PM   #108
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Happens all the time. Emmitt Smith did in 1992.

Teams can also cut a player at any time so it works both ways.
He won't get paid for the games he doesn't play in, right?
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Old 07-22-2007, 11:15 PM   #109
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He won't get paid for the games he doesn't play in, right?
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Old 07-23-2007, 12:52 AM   #110
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In general terms, the Strong Safety is oriented more towards run defense. He often lines up closer to the LOS. The Free Safety is oriented more towards pass defense. He is generally lined up behind the CBs and is the proverbial last ditch defense.

Speaking in very general terms again, the SS is bigger, while the FS is faster.

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Old 07-23-2007, 01:19 AM   #111
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Old 07-23-2007, 08:50 PM   #112
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Relevant to the impending season.....methods of protecting a young QB with a reconstructed Oline.

Running the ball, 3 and 5 step drops, changes in WR routes, double TE sets.

Does anyone care to expand on this topic?
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Old 07-23-2007, 09:14 PM   #113
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Okay, this is actually a serious question about the offense we'll be seeing next year:

We'll be playing with Croyle and not Green. Of the playaction QBs in the NFL, pretty much only Favre and Manning were better playaction callers than Green, who did a fabulous job in that offense. Now that we're going to be throwing Croyle out there, that's one aspect of the playbook that probably won't be removed, but certainly will be diminished.

How is this simplified offense REALLY going to look? I understand it will be a lot of Larry and everything, but is it that similar to Jimmy Raye's offense? Or is it more like Herm's NYJ offense with Pennington? What can Croyle do in this and what is reasonable of us as fans to expect of him? There's a leash we can put on him, obviously, but how will that help? Playaction also seems to always be a big part of our playbook. Will having the first inexperienced starting QB since Jeff Blackledge significantly diminish the roles of everyone else?

Pretty much my question is... tell me everything you know about this new offense.
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Old 07-23-2007, 09:26 PM   #114
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Relevant to the impending season.....methods of protecting a young QB with a reconstructed Oline.

Running the ball, 3 and 5 step drops, changes in WR routes, double TE sets.

Does anyone care to expand on this topic?
Teams that has a weak offensive line and/or a inexperienced QB, more often will run Max protection on passing downs (Meaning, everybody, except the 2 WR's (or in some cases, 3 WR's.) will be pass blocking.

So, running the ball is the first (of course, we all know this from experience) and a 3 step drop is more often used for quick hooks, curls, slants, in's or outs (usually 5-7 yards from the LOS.)

5 step drop is usually used on play action plays, as well as a normal passing down.

Changes in WR routes occur on audibles before the snap, or in some cases, the WR and QB needs to know what type of a defense scheme the defense is displaying (Man-to-man? Zone? Cover 4 zone? Cover 2 Man? etc etc.) where a WR would have the option of changing the origional route to a alternative route, to beat the zones.

Double TE set is this formation:



Starting on your left, WR, TE, LT, LG, C, RG, RT, TE, WR.

Then of course, the QB, and the HB behind the C.
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Old 07-30-2007, 07:39 PM   #115
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Nice illustration coach.

2 TE sets are definitely an option, but I can't see that formation being the base, unless you're using an H-back shifting and also functions of a FB for protection.

Adjustments to to the patterns of the WRs and the depths of drops by the QB, with play action passes to keep the D honest, as well as counters being part of the running game will also help slow down the pass rush, and assist a gelling Oline.
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Old 07-25-2008, 02:50 PM   #116
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Its that time of year again, and I know some of the newer and younger fans asked for this in the past.

I recall a time when I could learn more about football in a season than the geography of the cervix.
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Old 07-25-2008, 02:53 PM   #117
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Relevant to the impending season.....methods of protecting a young QB with a reconstructed Oline.

Running the ball, 3 and 5 step drops, changes in WR routes, double TE sets.

Does anyone care to expand on this topic?
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Wait just a ding dang dingy dong second here, Mr. Iowanian.

Do you mean to tell me that you have expertise in cervix geography?

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Old 07-25-2008, 03:06 PM   #119
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I know what Gaz's defensive solution for the A-11 offense, I'll wager within 5 words.

"Have some speed Dlinemen crush the pencilnecks"
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