Procuring a cello - Page 2

JimNasium · 09-05-2007, 11:29 AM

My daughter has decided that the cello is her instrument of choice in fifth grade orchestra. I, of course have zero clue about the cello and so I beseech the collective genious (sic) of the Planet for answers. I'm assuming that the best route to go is a rental until we decide if she's going to stick with it. I've been quoted $35/month for rental with one years rent allowed to accumulate into equity on a purchase. Is this a good/standard deal? Any other input would be helpful.

Jilly · 09-05-2007, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

I took the liberty of altering your post by two characters, Mr. FAX. This way you end up creating a clever pun. I hope you don't mind.

Musicians!

**penguinz** · 09-05-2007, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

I took the liberty of altering your post by two characters, Mr. FAX. This way you end up creating a clever pun. I hope you don't mind.

Viola?

Vegas_Dave · 09-05-2007, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JimNasium

My daughter has decided that the cello is her instrument of choice in fifth grade orchestra. I, of course have zero clue about the cello and so I beseech the collective genious (sic) of the Planet for answers. I'm assuming that the best route to go is a rental until we decide if she's going to stick with it. I've been quoted $35/month for rental with one years rent allowed to accumulate into equity on a purchase. Is this a good/standard deal? Any other input would be helpful.

I own 3 music stores in Las Vegas (www.kesslermusic.com).

The price you are being quoted is a pretty standard deal and is actually cheaper then the national average for Cellos.

When I rent a cello, I do them at $25 per month, with the first 2 months rent Free. I also allow 100% of the rent to go towards purchase.

Dave

tiptap · 09-05-2007, 01:32 PM

My son has been playing cello for 12 years. He started with a half size. It happened to be his aunts who kept it along with her regular size.

And it makes a great deal of difference which instrument you get. To get the real benefit you should look for a private teacher. Ask the rental store to let you take a couple of different ones over several lessons and let the teacher see which one is easiest in getting a good sound. Otherwise take the instructor with you with the bonus of a nice dinner to try them out. (Many times it is just an adjustment to the sound peg that can make a big difference.)

A cello can be an investment. (I have 100,000 invested in three violins, two cellos and a bass and the Steinway.) But ALL of the instruments have increased in value.

As an example what a good instrument provides, my daughter's violin teacher asked her to play way up on the neck to see how bad the sound could be as he did so on his own violin. After playing the professor turned to my wife and said, "You gave her too good a violin."

tiptap · 09-05-2007, 01:36 PM

If you are looking to buy and that should be after seeing if your child will want to continue, I suggest the Tulsa Violin Shop on Central in Tulsa OK of course. The owner is a cellist and travels to Europe looking for instruments.

bringbackmarty · 09-05-2007, 01:39 PM

Where do you live? 35 is okay, renting is good, setup is very important for string instruments. You need to make sure that the string height is not too high for her, and you don't want her to have too expensive a bow in the beginning because she will drop it when learning how to play a few times. If you are in kansas city, there are a couple of places I could reccomend, and I would be happy to meet you there to help you select an appropriate instrument for your child, as well as give you some tips on what to look out for in terms of poor setup, bad pricing, and the like. The size and setup are the most important because with the string family it is very easy for your kid to hurt themselves by working too hard. Tendonitis, carpal tunnel, back and neck problems are common.

seclark · 09-05-2007, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tiptap

(I have 100,000 invested in three violins, two cellos and a bass and the Steinway.)

wow...
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Zebedee DuBois · 09-05-2007, 02:26 PM

Got a vehicle with a big enough storage area to haul that thing around?

There's always room for cello.

Mr. Laz · 09-05-2007, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by StcChief

Rent or find a parent of the HS student that gave it up. Could get a decent deal.

yep ... gotta be kids who start the cello and then dump it around somewhere.

USED,USED,USED

**Saulbadguy** · 09-05-2007, 02:28 PM

YO YO MA!

Did you just say Yo Yo Ma?

Mr. Laz · 09-05-2007, 02:30 PM

http://search.ebay.com/Cello_W0QQcat...nsifQQsbrsrtZl

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_m/...&Go.y=14&Go=Go

Zebedee DuBois · 09-05-2007, 02:43 PM

Q: What is the difference between a violin and a viola?

A: The viola burns longer.

Ecto-I · 09-05-2007, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

I took the liberty of altering your post by two characters, Mr. FAX. This way you end up creating a clever pun. I hope you don't mind.

JimNasium · 09-05-2007, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bringbackmarty

Where do you live? 35 is okay, renting is good, setup is very important for string instruments. You need to make sure that the string height is not too high for her, and you don't want her to have too expensive a bow in the beginning because she will drop it when learning how to play a few times. If you are in kansas city, there are a couple of places I could reccomend, and I would be happy to meet you there to help you select an appropriate instrument for your child, as well as give you some tips on what to look out for in terms of poor setup, bad pricing, and the like. The size and setup are the most important because with the string family it is very easy for your kid to hurt themselves by working too hard. Tendonitis, carpal tunnel, back and neck problems are common.

Thanks for the offer but I'm down in Springpatch and won't be up that way anytime soon.

JimNasium · 09-05-2007, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

yep ... gotta be kids who start the cello and then dump it around somewhere.

USED,USED,USED

Craigslist here I come.

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09-05-2007, 01:32 PM	#19
tiptap Is this it? Join Date: Jan 2004 Casino cash: $10007847	My son has been playing cello for 12 years. He started with a half size. It happened to be his aunts who kept it along with her regular size. And it makes a great deal of difference which instrument you get. To get the real benefit you should look for a private teacher. Ask the rental store to let you take a couple of different ones over several lessons and let the teacher see which one is easiest in getting a good sound. Otherwise take the instructor with you with the bonus of a nice dinner to try them out. (Many times it is just an adjustment to the sound peg that can make a big difference.) A cello can be an investment. (I have 100,000 invested in three violins, two cellos and a bass and the Steinway.) But ALL of the instruments have increased in value. As an example what a good instrument provides, my daughter's violin teacher asked her to play way up on the neck to see how bad the sound could be as he did so on his own violin. After playing the professor turned to my wife and said, "You gave her too good a violin." __________________ Even a superstitious man has certain inalienable rights. He has a right to harbor and indulge his imbecilities as long as he pleases. . . He has a right to argue for them as eloquently as he can, in season and out of season. He has a right to teach them to his children. But certainly he has no right to be protected against the free criticism of those who do not hold them. He has no right to demand that they be treated as sacred. He has no right to preach them without challenge." -H.L. Mencken
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09-05-2007, 01:36 PM	#20
tiptap Is this it? Join Date: Jan 2004 Casino cash: $10007847	If you are looking to buy and that should be after seeing if your child will want to continue, I suggest the Tulsa Violin Shop on Central in Tulsa OK of course. The owner is a cellist and travels to Europe looking for instruments. __________________ Even a superstitious man has certain inalienable rights. He has a right to harbor and indulge his imbecilities as long as he pleases. . . He has a right to argue for them as eloquently as he can, in season and out of season. He has a right to teach them to his children. But certainly he has no right to be protected against the free criticism of those who do not hold them. He has no right to demand that they be treated as sacred. He has no right to preach them without challenge." -H.L. Mencken
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