Breaking News: Racially Motivated Beating in Norfolk! - Page 4

KC Kings · 09-27-2007, 05:43 AM

http://www.koco.com/video/14202233/index.html

Never mind, the attackers weren't white so it must have just been coincidental.

**Lzen** · 09-27-2007, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

I completely agree with that.....but, if the roles were reversed, would that still be a possibility to some people in this country? Or, would it be a bunch of KKK members jumped a defenseless black kid?

I know the media tends to jump on white on black crimes and ignore black on white crimes these days. So, you may be right about that. But that doesn't necessarily mean any of these crimes are racially motivated. And don't even get me started on hate crime legislation as I think it is ridiculously unnecessary.

BTW, in Sharpton's defense....they asked him about this the other day on Fox News and he said something to the effect that his organization would condemn these kids if race were indeed the motivation.

**Easy 6** · 09-27-2007, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by HolmeZz

Yup.

wtf I just thought we agreed that assuming a racially motivated crime was wrong. >:o

WHA???

Sometimes i could swear that your the Mecca/Contrarian of social issues.

**Lzen** · 09-27-2007, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jAZ

Should these kids be charged with attempted murder and face up to 100 years in prison without parole?

They should be punished, but I hardly think this was attempted murder. That is way too extreme.

HolmeZz · 09-27-2007, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by scott free

WHA???

Sometimes i could swear that your the Mecca/Contrarian of social issues.

I thought you were complaining about people assuming white on black crimes were racially motivated. Were you not?

pikesome · 09-27-2007, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Kings

With a population of 1.8 million, and over 300,000 of those being military and family I think bombing the entire area is a little extreme. There are some bad parts of town but the area is comparable to Kansas City. We have 1.9 million in our metro and our crime is very comparable, (I argue this with my wife who I moved to KC from VA Beach).

That's like seeing a kid get beat up on Quindaro and saying that we should bomb all of KC.

That doesn't jive with my experiences at all. I lived in Newport News for about a year in 1998 and it was ass. The same with the other side of the bay. Maybe some places are nice but I never saw them.

**Easy 6** · 09-27-2007, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by HolmeZz

I thought you were complaining about people assuming white on black crimes were racially motivated. Were you not?

IMO, pretty much any time you have 6 people of 1 color beating someone of a different color without being provoked...its racially motivated.

If it were reversed, white on black, it would just as disgusting.

HolmeZz · 09-27-2007, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by scott free

IMO, pretty much any time you have 6 people of 1 color beating someone of a different color without being provoked...its racially motivated.

If it were reversed, white on black, it would just as disgusting.

I agree, which is why I'm not sure why you said "if it were the other way around, it would be classified as racially motivated". You seem to be talking about a double standard, yet you acknowledged that it'd be racially motivated in either instance. Who were you complaining about? The media?

JohninGpt · 09-27-2007, 11:53 AM

I wasn't there, I had nothing to do with it.

**Easy 6** · 09-27-2007, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by HolmeZz

I agree, which is why I'm not sure why you said "if it were the other way around, it would be classified as racially motivated". You seem to be talking about a double standard, yet you acknowledged that it'd be racially motivated in either instance. Who were you complaining about? The media?

Yes...the media, city "leaders", the cops etc.

When you here about something like this, only reversed, its always a hate crime & of course it is. But when its black on white, its always..."whoa, whoa, whoa, lets not get ahead of ourselves".

Its blatantly obvious what went on here & all i'm asking is that it be called & prosecuted for what it was...a racially motivated hate crime.

Otter · 09-27-2007, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jidar

There are a lot of closet racists around here as you can see. They will swear they aren't but they never miss a chance to pile on against all the injustices they feel the white man is getting. Always the same people too.

In truth the attack may or may not have been racially motivated, it's something worth looking into, but nobody can say that it definitely was just based on what we see here.

Now, make those attackers white and make the victim a lone, skinny black boy getting the shit beat out of him by a groupl of white thugs and see how you feel about it.

If your trying to say there isn't a double standard your completely out of touch.

HolmeZz · 09-27-2007, 11:59 AM

I'm against hate crimes, but are you familiar with hate crime laws in Norfolk? Are there any?

Mr. Plow · 09-27-2007, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

I know the media tends to jump on white on black crimes and ignore black on white crimes these days. So, you may be right about that. But that doesn't necessarily mean any of these crimes are racially motivated. And don't even get me started on hate crime legislation as I think it is ridiculously unnecessary.

BTW, in Sharpton's defense....they asked him about this the other day on Fox News and he said something to the effect that his organization would condemn these kids if race were indeed the motivation.

That was my point. To me, it doesn't matter either way. White on Black or Black on White. Just because their are different colors does not necessarily mean it was about race. But, when you get to the point of 6 on 1, the race aspect should at least be looked at as a possibility.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-27-2007, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jidar

There are a lot of closet racists around here as you can see. They will swear they aren't but they never miss a chance to pile on against all the injustices they feel the white man is getting. Always the same people too.

In truth the attack may or may not have been racially motivated, it's something worth looking into, but nobody can say that it definitely was just based on what we see here.

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner.

HolmeZz · 09-27-2007, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Otter

Now, make those attackers white and make the victim a lone, skinny black boy getting the shit beat out of him and see how you feel about it. If your trying to say there isn't a double standard your completely out of touch.

There's a double standard from both sides. One side feels the need to blow up any black-on-white crimes to push their agenda, and one side blows up white-on-black crimes to push their agenda.

**Easy 6** · 09-27-2007, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner.

Whitey bad.

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