KC METRO SPORTS speculates that Chiefs cannot audible - Page 2

KCJohnny · 09-27-2007, 10:28 PM

This is 2007, right?
I mean, QBs like Len Dawson, John Unitas and John Hadl used to call their own plays in the huddle and THEN have an option for "check with me" to exploit mismatches.

Who is the #1 QB right now? Manning. Who's right there with him? Brady. What do they have in common? Scrambling ability? Cannon arms? 2,000 yd RBs?

No. They are coaches on the field who can change the play at the LOS and exploit opponents as they read defenses. Metro Sports reports tonight that Damon Huard (a 12 year vet!!!!) does not have the option to audible.

I'm feeling your pain, LJ.

**TinyEvel** · 09-27-2007, 11:24 PM

Herm wouldn't even let Huard audible his order at the Taco Bell Drive Thru

**wazu** · 09-27-2007, 11:41 PM

Honestly, I trust Huard's judgement more than Solari's. I realize we managed to win by Huard pulling off 10 yard completions on second down again and again last week, but the play calling on first down was just comical.

I was at a sports bar at the time, surrounded by Vikes fans. Their jaws were dropping after about the 15th time that we ran Larry right into the back of Weigman. On our final drive I made a bet with the Vike fan at my table that we would run Larry three times up the gut. I won the bet.

The stupidity of Mike Solari is mind-blowing. It's like standing at the edge of the Grand Canyon of stupidity, looking out on something that is just awe-inspiring.

HypnotizedMonkey · 09-27-2007, 11:44 PM

I'd rather have a QB with some character and ability to change the game using audibles, myself... Damon the Drone is just going to run the plays he's told and try not to turn the ball over... which will be good if our D holds up and they can get their special teams' shit together. Damon gon' be fine.. he gon' be fine. ...and Colquitt's gonna bounce back from his sub-par performance last week.

Hammock Parties · 09-27-2007, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam

Honestly, I trust Huard's judgement more than Solari's. I realize we managed to win by Huard pulling off 10 yard completions on second down again and again last week, but the play calling on first down was just comical.

I was at a sports bar at the time, surrounded by Vikes fans. Their jaws were dropping after about the 15th time that we ran Larry right into the back of Weigman. On our final drive I made a bet with the Vike fan at my table that we would run Larry three times up the gut. I won the bet.

The stupidity of Mike Solari is mind-blowing. It's like standing at the edge of the Grand Canyon of stupidity, looking out on something that is just awe-inspiring.

We ran 11 consecutive times on first down last week.

ELEVEN.

**wazu** · 09-27-2007, 11:52 PM

I don't understand the Huard-haters. If he hadn't come in last year there is no way we would have made it into the post-season. If he had played in Indy I believe we would have won.

So he's not young, so what. He did a tremendous job last year, and he is now showing signs he can repeat the performance this year. Time for people to give the guy a chance.

Gannon was a career journeyman and back-up for a long time before he signed with the Raiders. Huard may not prove to be as good as Gannon, but so far he has at least proven he can play.

Mecca · 09-27-2007, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam

I don't understand the Huard-haters. If he hadn't come in last year there is no way we would have made it into the post-season. If he had played in Indy I believe we would have won.

So he's not young, so what. He did a tremendous job last year, and he is now showing signs he can repeat the performance this year. Time for people to give the guy a chance.

Gannon was a career journeyman and back-up for a long time before he signed with the Raiders. Huard may not prove to be as good as Gannon, but so far he has at least proven he can play.

Ok you're nuts...Indy won the bowl, they were raping us no matter who the QB was...

People like me don't want Huard to play because playing to win 7 games accomplishes nothing for the future of this franchise.

Developing a 35 year old, brilliant...

**wazu** · 09-28-2007, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Ok you're nuts...Indy won the bowl, they were raping us no matter who the QB was...

People like me don't want Huard to play because playing to win 7 games accomplishes nothing for the future of this franchise.

Developing a 35 year old, brilliant...

That game was close well into the second half, even though we went something like 40 minutes without a first down. Our defense was kicking Manning's ass.

Nobody is suggesting developing Huard. He proved last year he doesn't need to "develop". All I'm suggesting is that maybe, just maybe, we might have a chance to be competitive. On paper, we are about the same on offense as last year, and we are much improved on defense. Considering we went 9-7 last year, maybe we should at least get into October before we bail on the whole season and throw Croyle to the wolves.

If we hit 1-5, I'll join the "Start Croyle Now" crowd. But maybe we should just see what Huard can do this year first. If you are correct, our draft position will still be just fine, and Croyle should get some quality experience down the stretch.

Mecca · 09-28-2007, 12:04 AM

So you are striving to sneak into the playoffs and get raped again kinda thing?

The Chiefs don't win on the road, especially against good teams.

**wazu** · 09-28-2007, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

So you are striving to sneak into the playoffs and get raped again kinda thing?

The Chiefs don't win on the road, especially against good teams.

Does that mean we shouldn't at least try? Is it really gonna be that much better next year, or the year after, that we should just give up right now?

Zeke Ziggle · 09-28-2007, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Developing a 35 year old, brilliant...

Well what do you want to do, give it to the young kid with potential. Thats flat out crazy.

**BigMeatballDave** · 09-28-2007, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

Right. That's why he ranked #2 in the NFL in QB rating last year behind Manning.
The only reason this guy has so few starts is that he has had the unlucky fate of being on the same teams as Dan Marino, Tom Brady and Trent Green (whom he beat out in camp). 90% of today's starting NFL QBs would have to serve as backups to Marino and Brady.

**BigMeatballDave** · 09-28-2007, 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam

I don't understand the Huard-haters. If he hadn't come in last year there is no way we would have made it into the post-season. If he had played in Indy I believe we would have won.

So he's not young, so what. He did a tremendous job last year, and he is now showing signs he can repeat the performance this year. Time for people to give the guy a chance.

Gannon was a career journeyman and back-up for a long time before he signed with the Raiders. Huard may not prove to be as good as Gannon, but so far he has at least proven he can play.

KCJohnny · 09-28-2007, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam

That game was close well into the second half, even though we went something like 40 minutes without a first down. Our defense was kicking Manning's ass.

Nobody is suggesting developing Huard. He proved last year he doesn't need to "develop". All I'm suggesting is that maybe, just maybe, we might have a chance to be competitive. On paper, we are about the same on offense as last year, and we are much improved on defense. Considering we went 9-7 last year, maybe we should at least get into October before we bail on the whole season and throw Croyle to the wolves.

If we hit 1-5, I'll join the "Start Croyle Now" crowd. But maybe we should just see what Huard can do this year first. If you are correct, our draft position will still be just fine, and Croyle should get some quality experience down the stretch.

Great post, Adam. I agree that the playoff game was winnable if (a) Huard had gotten at least half a game to play and (b) the play calling wasn't so vapid. The problem is clearly NOT Huard. That's a placebo for all the Herm-haters. The problem is that Huard is not allowed to check off at the LOS and is stuck trying to make 11 straight HB plunges on 1st down work against the NFL's best run D.

Were he allowed to go over the top with single coverage on his WRs, I am sure he would.

**Baby Lee** · 09-28-2007, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE

Huard is not dumb.

He's not brave either.

**Iowanian** · 09-28-2007, 08:17 AM

I heard an interview with Huard last week where he was asked about audibles.....

He said they often call 2 plays in a "check with me", however its usually 2 runs or 2 passes, depending on the coverages or overloads which one they use.

It would seem to me to have an ability to audible to a pass when 9 guys crowd the line might be a good thing......

Oh, and if we're keeping score.....Huard sucks balls, and that is why he's a career backup.

09-27-2007, 10:28 PM
KCJohnny Blind, deceived homer Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Maryland, USA Casino cash: $10004900	KC METRO SPORTS speculates that Chiefs cannot audible This is 2007, right? I mean, QBs like Len Dawson, John Unitas and John Hadl used to call their own plays in the huddle and THEN have an option for "check with me" to exploit mismatches. Who is the #1 QB right now? Manning. Who's right there with him? Brady. What do they have in common? Scrambling ability? Cannon arms? 2,000 yd RBs? No. They are coaches on the field who can change the play at the LOS and exploit opponents as they read defenses. Metro Sports reports tonight that Damon Huard (a 12 year vet!!!!) does not have the option to audible. I'm feeling your pain, LJ.
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09-27-2007, 11:24 PM	#16
TinyEvel Just a li'l Evel Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bald. Goatee. Jorts. Casino cash: $2219601	Herm wouldn't even let Huard audible his order at the Taco Bell Drive Thru
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09-27-2007, 11:41 PM	#17
wazu ... Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $-1777705 VARSITY	Honestly, I trust Huard's judgement more than Solari's. I realize we managed to win by Huard pulling off 10 yard completions on second down again and again last week, but the play calling on first down was just comical. I was at a sports bar at the time, surrounded by Vikes fans. Their jaws were dropping after about the 15th time that we ran Larry right into the back of Weigman. On our final drive I made a bet with the Vike fan at my table that we would run Larry three times up the gut. I won the bet. The stupidity of Mike Solari is mind-blowing. It's like standing at the edge of the Grand Canyon of stupidity, looking out on something that is just awe-inspiring.
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09-27-2007, 11:44 PM	#18
HypnotizedMonkey usually hooplah is involved Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Corpus Christi, TX Casino cash: $10004925	I'd rather have a QB with some character and ability to change the game using audibles, myself... Damon the Drone is just going to run the plays he's told and try not to turn the ball over... which will be good if our D holds up and they can get their special teams' shit together. Damon gon' be fine.. he gon' be fine. ...and Colquitt's gonna bounce back from his sub-par performance last week.
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09-27-2007, 11:52 PM	#20
wazu ... Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $-1777705 VARSITY	I don't understand the Huard-haters. If he hadn't come in last year there is no way we would have made it into the post-season. If he had played in Indy I believe we would have won. So he's not young, so what. He did a tremendous job last year, and he is now showing signs he can repeat the performance this year. Time for people to give the guy a chance. Gannon was a career journeyman and back-up for a long time before he signed with the Raiders. Huard may not prove to be as good as Gannon, but so far he has at least proven he can play.
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09-28-2007, 12:04 AM	#23
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-782950	So you are striving to sneak into the playoffs and get raped again kinda thing? The Chiefs don't win on the road, especially against good teams.
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09-28-2007, 08:17 AM	#30
Iowanian Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Utopia Casino cash: $1638454	I heard an interview with Huard last week where he was asked about audibles..... He said they often call 2 plays in a "check with me", however its usually 2 runs or 2 passes, depending on the coverages or overloads which one they use. It would seem to me to have an ability to audible to a pass when 9 guys crowd the line might be a good thing...... Oh, and if we're keeping score.....Huard sucks balls, and that is why he's a career backup.
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