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Old 11-18-2007, 11:47 PM  
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I've been saying it, Tom Brady just said, the Chiefs need to start doing it.
I just said earlier in a previous post that the object of the game on offense is to score touchdowns EVERY TIME YOU HAVE THE BALL.

Tom Brady just said in a post game interview that Belichick tells his players to try and do that and that's pretty much why they are scoring 40 points a game.

There isn't anything wrong with scoring a lot of points. Herm for whatever reason thinks otherwise and which is why he's the biggest dumbass in professional football as far as game management goes. People say that you put your defense on the field too much and they get tired and teams will score on you making it a shootout.

Bullshit.

You can lead the league in offense and still control the ball. We did that all the time in the DV/AS era. You can also play defense and stop people from scoring. Defense is a totally different part of the game which means scoring points doesn't mean shit about how your team plays defense. The Pats play both great defense and great offense. Chiefs coaches need to at least try to score as much as humanly possible, as opposed to drawing up plays that STRICTLY prohibit anyone on offense from advancing past the first down marker.

Herm says the magic number was 21, then he changed it to 24.

**** that. Let's air it out and run off of our passing game (since the other way around is NOT working worth a shit) and let's score 34 points a game.
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:57 PM   #46
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Good thing too, because you better score 43 when you're giving up 42.

Amazing how we can only give up 13 a game or less, but can only score 13 TD's in 10 games...

so whats the difference between the two approaches. One was at least exciting and the other looks like a monkey ****ing a football.

Dont bash the other coaching style while we are being humilated weekly with Herms style...
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:58 PM   #47
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His pal Tony Dungy saw the light. That's way the TB teams of the 90s played. I remember TB lost to the Rams 11-6 in the playoffs. 1 TD and the Bucs advance. Their D ground the GSoT down to 11 points!

Dungy gets to Indy and discovers all these weapons and liked it. Maybe that's Herm's challenge: he's never had a really potent offense (unless you count the one that took the fiel vs Cincy in September 2006)...
Dungy is a different coach. Dungy is more intellegent and smarter than Herm. He got lucky I admit by inheriting a good offense with Manning and co. He also had Tom Moore as OC who implemented a good system there, and kept it there.

The reason he was brought to Indy was to build a good defense. That's the only reason. Why did Tampa fire Dungy? Because they had the same offense as us. And that is why they hired Gruden to build an offense there.
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Old 11-19-2007, 01:04 PM   #48
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Dungy is a different coach. Dungy is more intellegent and smarter than Herm. He got lucky I admit by inheriting a good offense with Manning and co. He also had Tom Moore as OC who implemented a good system there, and kept it there.

The reason he was brought to Indy was to build a good defense. That's the only reason. Why did Tampa fire Dungy? Because they had the same offense as us. And that is why they hired Gruden to build an offense there.
Good points. And Dungy has succeeded. They are good friends. Hopefully TD will influence Herm to play some arena league football soon.
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Old 11-19-2007, 01:58 PM   #49
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The Chiefs used to have that aggressive, look to score a TD on every offensive possession under Vermeil/Saunders.

Herm destroyed that approach almost immediately upon his arrival in KC
In fact, he BLAMED that approach as the reason we had a shitty D. NOT NOT NOT Herm. We had a shitty D because we had shitty players and a Shitty DC who ran shitty schemes and shittily coached his players to play shitty.
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Old 11-19-2007, 01:59 PM   #50
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In fact, he BLAMED that approach as the reason we had a shitty D. NOT NOT NOT Herm. We had a shitty D because we had shitty players and a Shitty DC who ran shitty schemes and shittily coached his players to play shitty.
No shit.
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Old 11-19-2007, 02:05 PM   #51
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In fact, he BLAMED that approach as the reason we had a shitty D. NOT NOT NOT Herm. We had a shitty D because we had shitty players and a Shitty DC who ran shitty schemes and shittily coached his players to play shitty.
Might the same reasoning explain the offense?

Well, not the talent part anyway. With Bowe and Gonzo and LJ (pre-injury) we still sucked baows...
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Old 11-19-2007, 02:12 PM   #52
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I don't expect them to score 30 but there is no excuse to be the lowest scoring team in the league......have you guys seen say Atlanta, they've scored more points then the Chiefs, there's no excuse for that.
Has Herm manned up and even admitted that it is his fault yet? I doubt it.
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Old 11-19-2007, 02:15 PM   #53
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Way I look at it is a good defense, in the top 3rd in pts allowed, is even MORE reason to open it up and be less conservative.

If you know your D is good enough to hold the Colts to a ****ing FG after an entire half of football why not throw a little more and take some shots down the field?...
That's arena football, and we don't play that.
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Old 11-19-2007, 02:15 PM   #54
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In fact, he BLAMED that approach as the reason we had a shitty D. NOT NOT NOT Herm. We had a shitty D because we had shitty players and a Shitty DC who ran shitty schemes and shittily coached his players to play shitty.
dayum...

are you trying to sell pampers or what?
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No shit.
Sorry, I'm in kind of a shitty mood this morning.
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Sorry, I'm in kind of a shitty mood this morning.
I'm kind of pooped myself.
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That's arena football, and we don't play that.
give croyle a little more playing time, and herm won't have a chance holding back the o...

croyle, bowe, tg, sippio and lj...

shitty oline or no, we're gonna see some arena ball whether or not herm likes it...

these guys have crazy skills, and they will only get better the more they play...

arena ball will be here by the end of this season...

and i can't wait...
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Old 11-19-2007, 05:27 PM   #58
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His pal Tony Dungy saw the light. That's way the TB teams of the 90s played. I remember TB lost to the Rams 11-6 in the playoffs. 1 TD and the Bucs advance. Their D ground the GSoT down to 11 points!

Dungy gets to Indy and discovers all these weapons and liked it. Maybe that's Herm's challenge: he's never had a really potent offense (unless you count the one that took the fiel vs Cincy in September 2006)...
you make a terrific point. I would repp you if you knew how.

Maybe herm just needs to 'see the light' so to speak. Dungy was known as a defensive minded coach until he got to indy, and had harrison, manning, and james on offense. He discovered what hopefully herm will discover, scoring points and lots of it, is a good thing. Going out there on offense with the intent to score touchdowns, not field goals, should be on the teams mind first and foremost. Thats what is on the patriots minds, there D is holding up just fine, and heres the thing, Our d is as good if not better than there D is. Opening up our offense can only help our solid defense that much more.

And We have had some close games that we should have won. Greenbay comes to mind, so does the denver game, the bears, the texans, and ofcourse the colts game. All games WE COULD HAVE AND PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE WON, regardless of who our starting QB was (evem though croyle is much better). This team is better, much better, than our current record indicates. We could just as easily be 8-2 or 9-1 right now.

I agree with redbull on alot of things in regards to herm. And I do blame yesterdays loss on him. The packers game, we had the ball on offense, we were up by 6pts, we run the ball 3 times in a row, and then punt. Farve takes his team down and scores..... We have to be more versatile on offense, we should be a pass first offense, run second. Our OL is clearly better at pass blocking than it is run blocking. We are hurting ourselfs. Maybe herm isnt the answer in the longterm. But he has brought defense back to the cheifs. BLAH..
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Dude we are SO FAR away from 40pts its not even funny
He meant in 5 GAMES we can score 40.
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you make a terrific point. I would repp you if you knew how.

And We have had some close games that we should have won. Greenbay comes to mind, so does the denver game, the bears, the texans, and ofcourse the colts game. All games WE COULD HAVE AND PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE WON, regardless of who our starting QB was (evem though croyle is much better). This team is better, much better, than our current record indicates. We could just as easily be 8-2 or 9-1 right now.
Definitely a thin line between 4-6 and 6-4. We're on that line now.
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