So when do we fire Dumther Cunningham? - Page 4

**The Bad Guy** · 12-09-2007, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv

This is how the game started.

3 and out
3 and out
3 and out
nice little drive. TD.
2nd half
3 and out.
3 and out
2 and interception.

Seriously wtf is the defense to do when this shit happens for 13 games straight. They are just beat up and tired. Even if the Chiefs defense can hold themt o 10 points. WE STILL cannot win a game.

If they fire Guntharr thats fine with me, but for a team that has been on the field so damned much this year,i think he's doing a hell of a job.

Were they tired on the first drive when Selvin Young ripped them a new asshole?

I get your point, but Gunther has had 4 years here in his 2nd stint and it's been the same story every year.

Pablo · 12-09-2007, 09:41 PM

I've reserved all of the hate I have in my heart for two entities.

The Chiefs offensive line

and

Carl Peterson.

I can't hate Gunther..there's not enough room in the hate compartment of my heart.

FAX · 12-09-2007, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by findthedr

... We are now 26th in rushing defense.

See? That right there should tell you something.

It's like a little bird on the windowsill in the early morning light vomiting half-digested grub guts in your ear.

FAX

blueballs · 12-09-2007, 09:45 PM

The first thing you have to do is stop the run
then get after the QB -Gun

Mecca · 12-09-2007, 09:50 PM

Good coordinators take marginal talent and make them good.......the sign of a good coordinator isn't a guy who makes a defense #1 when it has a ton of talent....

To many people are snowed by Gunther, he needs pro bowlers all over the field to be a good DC that means he sucks/

RustShack · 12-09-2007, 10:19 PM

I haven't given up on Gun yet, just every on the offensive staff and ST.

CupidStunt · 12-10-2007, 08:16 AM

So many arguments on this board are X vs. Y, and most seem to feel obligated to be on one side of the fence as if the two sides are mutually exclusive. This happens most often with players vs. coaches - who's worse, who's most responsible for failure, etc.

Isn't it very clear by now? The two are not mutually exclusive. The Chiefs have very little talent and are horribly coached! That goes for the defense less so than the offense but it's certainly true all the same. There's very little talent outside of a couple of great talents (although they both disappear and at times just completely stink), and the coaching is brutal.

The defensive backfield is the funniest position of all. You've got a clown in Goonther who does nothing but shout and scream at two crusty old mother-f**kers, a seventh-round baseball player and a second-round, should-be-a-backup-linebacker-or-break-dancer reach/bust. How the f**k is that sorry group gonna stop anyone?

FringeNC · 12-10-2007, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by lj4mvp

Isn't it very clear by now? The two are not mutually exclusive. The Chiefs have very little talent and are horribly coached! That goes

Right. Peterson and Edwards -- how to divvy up the blame is irrelevant. They are both well below average at their respective jobs, and need to be shit-canned before this franchise can move forward.

Mr. Laz · 12-10-2007, 10:35 AM

i blame vermeil

**MahiMike** · 12-10-2007, 10:46 AM

When do we fire Gunther? I'd say 2004.

Micjones · 12-10-2007, 12:14 PM

I'm not opposed to staff changes, but I'm not about to badger this defense.

Not when they've kept us in games all year while the offense did Jack Shit.

jidar · 12-10-2007, 12:27 PM

one ****ing game. shoot yourself in your reeruned ****ing head.

jidar · 12-10-2007, 12:29 PM

Man I can't believe there is a thread here with people bitching about the defense after this season. Holy ****. How the **** are people this stupid able to get out of bed without killing themselves?

DJJasonp · 12-10-2007, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jidar

Man I can't believe there is a thread here with people bitching about the defense after this season. Holy ****. How the **** are people this stupid able to get out of bed without killing themselves?

I think someone else pointed out earlier, so I'll reiterate:

Green Bay game
Both Denver games
Oakland game

Same could be said for the SD game (looked great in 1st half....looked terrible in the 2nd half).

Yes, it's obvious that the defense feels like it's an uphill battle when in the back of their minds, they know the offense isnt going to do crap even if they make the stop.

jidar · 12-10-2007, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DJJasonp

I think someone else pointed out earlier, so I'll reiterate:

Green Bay game
Both Denver games
Oakland game

Same could be said for the SD game (looked great in 1st half....looked terrible in the 2nd half).

Yes, it's obvious that the defense feels like it's an uphill battle when in the back of their minds, they know the offense isnt going to do crap even if they make the stop.

ridiculous. So a defense has to play perfect through the whole season or they suck and the coordinator should be fired? Even when they keep opposing teams under 20 for most of the season?

As for picking out games, EVERY SINGLE EXAMPLE YOU LISTED HAD OUR O THROWING INTS IN THE RED ZONE.

12-09-2007, 09:41 PM	#2
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-782950	Good coordinators take marginal talent and make them good.......the sign of a good coordinator isn't a guy who makes a defense #1 when it has a ton of talent.... To many people are snowed by Gunther, he needs pro bowlers all over the field to be a good DC that means he sucks/
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12-10-2007, 08:16 AM	#7
CupidStunt offense > defense Join Date: Jul 2005 Casino cash: $-816668	So many arguments on this board are X vs. Y, and most seem to feel obligated to be on one side of the fence as if the two sides are mutually exclusive. This happens most often with players vs. coaches - who's worse, who's most responsible for failure, etc. Isn't it very clear by now? The two are not mutually exclusive. The Chiefs have very little talent and are horribly coached! That goes for the defense less so than the offense but it's certainly true all the same. There's very little talent outside of a couple of great talents (although they both disappear and at times just completely stink), and the coaching is brutal. The defensive backfield is the funniest position of all. You've got a clown in Goonther who does nothing but shout and scream at two crusty old mother-fkers, a seventh-round baseball player and a second-round, should-be-a-backup-linebacker-or-break-dancer reach/bust. How the fk is that sorry group gonna stop anyone?
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