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Old 12-10-2007, 12:52 PM   #1
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ridiculous. So a defense has to play perfect through the whole season or they suck and the coordinator should be fired? Even when they keep opposing teams under 20 for most of the season?

As for picking out games, EVERY SINGLE EXAMPLE YOU LISTED HAD OUR O THROWING INTS IN THE RED ZONE.
we had a lead against Green Bay...and somehow bit on a play action pass with less than 3 or 4 minutes left in the game? How does that even happen?

Why do we continue to let no-name running backs eat us alive (Oakland, denver)?


I'm not saying a defense has to play perfect - but this defense has let us down far more times this year than it seems you want to admit to.

I respect your opinion, but I'm just politely disagreeing.

Combine that with the fact that I'm already biased towards the whole organization being fired...and you'll see where I'm coming from.

But here's the deal....I want a house cleaning because I no longer want any coach, GM, etc. who sits around arrowhead's offices thinking back to the so-called glory days of the 90's (when we didnt really accomplish a damn thing).

I want a GM/coach/players who dont accept that as "glory days" (such as jerry jones or bill bellichek, etc.). We have too many people thinking way too much of their "accomplishments" in the 90's.

It's time for a new attitude.
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Old 12-10-2007, 12:40 PM   #2
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Clark Hunt needs to appologize openly to all the fans of Kansas City for the horrible product that he has allowed to be passed off as football this year. With that said, he should then like to begin again with a clean slate and rebuild this proud franchise into a super bowl contender.

As a necessary first step, Carl Peterson will no longer be with the team. The New GM, will have the right to bring in his own coaches to completely overhaul this Franchise. You the fans, deserve nothing less than a franchise that is fully capable of contending for a Super Bowl on a consistent basis and, as Owner of the Chiefs, it is my responsibility to deliver that to you.

That would be nice to hear.
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Old 12-10-2007, 01:27 PM   #3
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Interesting factoids:

1. KC's rush defense is worse, in terms of yards per carry, right now than it was in Vermeil's last year.

2. If KC gives up an average of 18 points or more during its final 3 games, it will have given up more points than Vermeil's defense did in 2005.
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Old 12-10-2007, 01:30 PM   #4
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Interesting factoids:

1. KC's rush defense is worse, in terms of yards per carry, right now than it was in Vermeil's last year.

2. If KC gives up an average of 18 points or more during its final 3 games, it will have given up more points than Vermeil's defense did in 2005.

That is really going to leave a mark on a few posters around here.
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Old 12-10-2007, 02:49 PM   #5
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Interesting factoids:

1. KC's rush defense is worse, in terms of yards per carry, right now than it was in Vermeil's last year.

2. If KC gives up an average of 18 points or more during its final 3 games, it will have given up more points than Vermeil's defense did in 2005.
Ouch.

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Old 12-10-2007, 03:02 PM   #6
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Interesting factoids:

1. KC's rush defense is worse, in terms of yards per carry, right now than it was in Vermeil's last year.

2. If KC gives up an average of 18 points or more during its final 3 games, it will have given up more points than Vermeil's defense did in 2005.
Yeah. I think the "revamped" Chiefs defense has been a little bit of an urban myth, Mr. Chiefnj2. When you watch the games, you realize that our success is very dependent on great play by JA and two of our linebackers (DT and DE). Other than that, we're pretty inconsistent.

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Old 12-10-2007, 03:22 PM   #7
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Yeah. I think the "revamped" Chiefs defense has been a little bit of an urban myth, Mr. Chiefnj2. When you watch the games, you realize that our success is very dependent on great play by JA and two of our linebackers (DT and DE). Other than that, we're pretty inconsistent.

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The masochist in me looked up some other data:

- yards per reception (given up) 11.9. (Same as 2005).

And here's the kicker:
points per game - 2005 was 20.3, 2007 is presently 20.8.
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Old 12-10-2007, 06:54 PM   #8
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The masochist in me looked up some other data:

- yards per reception (given up) 11.9. (Same as 2005).

And here's the kicker:
points per game - 2005 was 20.3, 2007 is presently 20.8.
I can't recall with any precision, but those stats seem about right. The Chiefs closed out the 2005 season by steamrolling playoff bound Cincy 37-3.

I'm sure there's some logical explanation for this appearance of stagnation. I wish i knew what it was...

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Old 12-10-2007, 09:15 PM   #9
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I'm sure there's some logical explanation for this appearance of stagnation. I wish i knew what it was...

They played teams that have poor or struggling offenses early in the year. They caught the Colts at a time they had many starters injured.
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Old 12-10-2007, 04:09 PM   #10
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Interesting factoids:

1. KC's rush defense is worse, in terms of yards per carry, right now than it was in Vermeil's last year.

2. If KC gives up an average of 18 points or more during its final 3 games, it will have given up more points than Vermeil's defense did in 2005.
but it's all Dick vermeil's fault!!!!
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Old 12-10-2007, 01:38 PM   #11
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Old 12-10-2007, 06:59 PM   #12
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The good news is, Gun will throw a couple of assistant coaches and/or players under the bus on their way out the door. Then he will come back with his batteries recharged next season.

And we will still have the same sucky defense that he always trots out on the field.
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Old 12-10-2007, 07:01 PM   #13
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Regardless if it's your profession or not, football is still just a game.

And to tell you the truth the way this offense is playing you kind of have to wonder if deep down the defense goes into the game knowing they're probably gonna lose anyways simply because we can't score more than 10 mother ****ing points.
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Old 12-10-2007, 08:12 PM   #14
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Regardless if it's your profession or not, football is still just a game.

And to tell you the truth the way this offense is playing you kind of have to wonder if deep down the defense goes into the game knowing they're probably gonna lose anyways simply because we can't score more than 10 mother ****ing points.
yeah, no matter what the Defense does, if they get 10 points its game over. We have no shot at winning. Thats sad. If we had a halfway decent offense. this team would be something like 10-3.lol
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Shouldn't this thread be in the ****Official**** Fire Herm thread??
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