GRETZ: This Is Rock Bottom - Page 2

C-Mac · 12-10-2007, 10:26 AM

GRETZ: This Is Rock Bottom
Dec 10, 2007, 8:22:51 AM by Bob Gretz - FAQ

DENVER – There’s one part of the game of football that has never changed not even once since they organized teams of 11-men a side and chased after the funny shaped pigskin.

To win a football game a team must control what happens on the line of scrimmage. Offensively, defensively, either way, the team that can impose its will on their opponent in the blocking zone wins the game.

The Chiefs did not win on Sunday at Invesco Field. They were not even really part of the equation in this game. They were drubbed 41-7 in one of the most embarrassing outings by this franchise in some time. I’m talking back to the disasterous 1980s.

The reason they got their rear ends kicked so thoroughly and completely was their inability to win on the line of scrimmage. We’ve seen that all year from the offensive line and they went out and matched their performance once again, giving up five sacks, gaining a mere 129 yards in total offense and only 16 yards rushing on 17 carries.

What we had not seen a lot of this season has been the defensive line being dominated. But the Broncos came out and completely controlled the Chiefs front four. On the second offensive play of the game, Denver cracked the right side of the Chiefs D-Line for a 50-yard run. In the previous five games the Chiefs had allowed an average of 42 yards rushing in the first half. They gave up more than that in one play.

The Broncos ended up with 215 yards on 34 carries. Jay Cutler threw 27 times for the Broncos and was not sacked. In fact, if he had not fallen down at one point, tripping over his own feet, I’m not sure his pants would have had any grass or dirt stains on them. And by the way, after he fell down he got up and ran for 21 yards.

The saddest part of watching the Chiefs get dominated on the line of scrimmage was that it was being done by one of the worst Broncos teams that Mike Shanahan has fielded in his time in Denver.

Elvis Dumervil is a second-year stud pass rusher for the Broncos and he contributed three sacks. The rest of the domination was coming from guys like John Engelberger, rookies MarcusThomas, Tim Crowder and Steve Harris, Alvin McKinley and some guy named Josh Mallard. Denver is Mallard’s fifth team in the last six years and he was signed by the Broncos on November 6th, after he was cut by the woeful Atlanta Falcons.

The Chiefs began this game like a disinterested group that wanted to be elsewhere on a cold, sunny day. There are those that will say they quit, gave up, weren’t prepared, have thrown the season in the trash. After a performance like that one, it’s not hard to understand why someone would think so.

However, let me tell you that is not true. The Chiefs played hard. They just didn’t play effectively. And how anyone could question the desire of Tony Gonzalez, for instance, I’m not sure. He went out on the first offensive play of the third quarter with an ankle injury. A lot of players would have taken that injury to the nice, warm locker room and called it a day. Gonzalez went to the locker room, got re-taped, and came back on the field and played in the fourth quarter. He played his heart out.

Take it from someone who spends seven days a week with this team. They were prepared, the coaching staff worked hard to get this team ready for everything that Denver does.

But it’s apparent this team has lost its confidence in themselves and each other. When they fell behind 14-0 halfway through the first quarter, the game was over. There weren’t many guys wearing the red and gold that thought they had a chance to come back.

Turned out they were right.

Losing by 34 points can happen, especially on the road. But losing by 34 to a team like Denver (now just 6-7 on the season) and doing it the way the Chiefs did has brought them to rock bottom.

From here, there’s nowhere else to go but up.

Mr. Laz · 12-10-2007, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ümlaüt

It will start to look up when Carl is ****ing GONE

and you'll probably see Gretz pull a groin jumping on the "carl sucks" bandwagon as soon as carl is gone. He'll start talking about all the things that carl did wrong.

of course Gretz is to cowardly to mention those things WHILE carl is still here.

it's the KC way .... everyone is perfect until they leave, then they are crap.

HC_Chief · 12-10-2007, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

I am not sure you can blame that on the player. That's coaching.

Easily. This is SUPPOSED to be a cover-2 defense. The safeties MUST keep receivers in front of them. The coaches can scream at them 'til they're blue in the face; if the player doesn't get it, it's just a waste of energy. Both of these guys want to make a highlight reel hit rather than just tackle, and NEITHER know how to play deep. FFS, in the cover-2 the first & foremost job of the safety is to keep deep containment!

**Bob Dole** · 12-10-2007, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by QuikSsurfer

quoted from grunny this morning

Who is apparently quoting Bob Dole from yesterday.

FringeNC · 12-10-2007, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

Easily. This is SUPPOSED to be a cover-2 defense. The safeties MUST keep receivers in front of them. The coaches can scream at them 'til they're blue in the face; if the player doesn't get it, it's just a waste of energy. Both of these guys want to make a highlight reel hit rather than just tackle, and NEITHER know how to play deep. FFS, in the cover-2 the first & foremost job of the safety is to keep deep containment!

I disagree. We purposefully use the safeties for run support, and just hope Allen can get to the QB before we get burned deep.

Eleazar · 12-10-2007, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole

Who is apparently quoting Bob Dole from yesterday.

Bob Dole probably stole it from WPI in the first place.

**HemiEd** · 12-10-2007, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole

Actually, getting completely shut out at home next week would be slightly lower.

That could happen.

**Bob Dole** · 12-10-2007, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

Bob Dole probably stole it from WPI in the first place.

Damnit! Foiled again!!

bobbything · 12-10-2007, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz

it's the KC way .... everyone is perfect until they leave, then they are crap.

QFT.

When Vermeil was here, Gretz did a 5-part dissertation on Saunders' offense. I mean, he spent some serious time "oooh-ing" and "ahhh-ing" over it. Then, this year, I've read, no fewer than, 5 articles where Gretz blatantly bashes the Saunders-style offense.

For some reason, Gretz is under the belief that we were a pass-first oriented offense. And that we chucked the ball 50 times per game all over the field.

For someone who spends "7 days a week" with this team, you'd think he'd have a better grasp of certain things.

**Bob Dole** · 12-10-2007, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

That could happen.

You thought Bob Dole was kidding? Bob Dole watched the Titans yesterday and the possibility is quite real.

Eleazar · 12-10-2007, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole

You thought Bob Dole was kidding? Bob Dole watched the Titans yesterday and the possibility is quite real.

I firmly believe the Kerry Collins-led Titans would beat us.

Frazod · 12-10-2007, 11:19 AM

This is like saying "it can't get any worse."

It can ALWAYS get worse.

As hard as it is to believe from watching yesterday's abortion, there are worse teams than us out there. Granted, there aren't very many of them, but they're out there.

And while our loss was both painful and humiliating, it was never in doubt. I think it would be more painful to be a Detroit fan this morning after they pissed away a win over Dallas, not to mention a 6-2 start. And prior to that, they've sucked well, FOREVER. High expectations make failure that much harder to swallow.

**the Talking Can** · 12-10-2007, 11:24 AM

amazing insight in that column

"it looked like we quit, but I don't think we did...cause Carl said so..."

**Bowser** · 12-10-2007, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole

You thought Bob Dole was kidding? Bob Dole watched the Titans yesterday and the possibility is quite real.

I don't see how VanDenBosch doesn't get at least four sacks. That guy is a monster, especially with Haynesworth right next to him.

**HemiEd** · 12-10-2007, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole

You thought Bob Dole was kidding? Bob Dole watched the Titans yesterday and the possibility is quite real.

I watched most of that game as well. Holy crap, that defense played stout.

Wile_E_Coyote · 12-10-2007, 11:28 AM

Tell us all about the supposed yelling incident at Arrowhead, Gretz

12-10-2007, 10:26 AM
C-Mac Lurker Extraordinaire Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wally World Casino cash: $-1146301	GRETZ: This Is Rock Bottom GRETZ: This Is Rock Bottom Dec 10, 2007, 8:22:51 AM by Bob Gretz - FAQ DENVER – There’s one part of the game of football that has never changed not even once since they organized teams of 11-men a side and chased after the funny shaped pigskin. To win a football game a team must control what happens on the line of scrimmage. Offensively, defensively, either way, the team that can impose its will on their opponent in the blocking zone wins the game. The Chiefs did not win on Sunday at Invesco Field. They were not even really part of the equation in this game. They were drubbed 41-7 in one of the most embarrassing outings by this franchise in some time. I’m talking back to the disasterous 1980s. The reason they got their rear ends kicked so thoroughly and completely was their inability to win on the line of scrimmage. We’ve seen that all year from the offensive line and they went out and matched their performance once again, giving up five sacks, gaining a mere 129 yards in total offense and only 16 yards rushing on 17 carries. What we had not seen a lot of this season has been the defensive line being dominated. But the Broncos came out and completely controlled the Chiefs front four. On the second offensive play of the game, Denver cracked the right side of the Chiefs D-Line for a 50-yard run. In the previous five games the Chiefs had allowed an average of 42 yards rushing in the first half. They gave up more than that in one play. The Broncos ended up with 215 yards on 34 carries. Jay Cutler threw 27 times for the Broncos and was not sacked. In fact, if he had not fallen down at one point, tripping over his own feet, I’m not sure his pants would have had any grass or dirt stains on them. And by the way, after he fell down he got up and ran for 21 yards. The saddest part of watching the Chiefs get dominated on the line of scrimmage was that it was being done by one of the worst Broncos teams that Mike Shanahan has fielded in his time in Denver. Elvis Dumervil is a second-year stud pass rusher for the Broncos and he contributed three sacks. The rest of the domination was coming from guys like John Engelberger, rookies MarcusThomas, Tim Crowder and Steve Harris, Alvin McKinley and some guy named Josh Mallard. Denver is Mallard’s fifth team in the last six years and he was signed by the Broncos on November 6th, after he was cut by the woeful Atlanta Falcons. The Chiefs began this game like a disinterested group that wanted to be elsewhere on a cold, sunny day. There are those that will say they quit, gave up, weren’t prepared, have thrown the season in the trash. After a performance like that one, it’s not hard to understand why someone would think so. However, let me tell you that is not true. The Chiefs played hard. They just didn’t play effectively. And how anyone could question the desire of Tony Gonzalez, for instance, I’m not sure. He went out on the first offensive play of the third quarter with an ankle injury. A lot of players would have taken that injury to the nice, warm locker room and called it a day. Gonzalez went to the locker room, got re-taped, and came back on the field and played in the fourth quarter. He played his heart out. Take it from someone who spends seven days a week with this team. They were prepared, the coaching staff worked hard to get this team ready for everything that Denver does. But it’s apparent this team has lost its confidence in themselves and each other. When they fell behind 14-0 halfway through the first quarter, the game was over. There weren’t many guys wearing the red and gold that thought they had a chance to come back. Turned out they were right. Losing by 34 points can happen, especially on the road. But losing by 34 to a team like Denver (now just 6-7 on the season) and doing it the way the Chiefs did has brought them to rock bottom. From here, there’s nowhere else to go but up.
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Frazod Did you hear what I said? Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-846615	This is like saying "it can't get any worse." It can ALWAYS get worse. As hard as it is to believe from watching yesterday's abortion, there are worse teams than us out there. Granted, there aren't very many of them, but they're out there. And while our loss was both painful and humiliating, it was never in doubt. I think it would be more painful to be a Detroit fan this morning after they pissed away a win over Dallas, not to mention a 6-2 start. And prior to that, they've sucked well, FOREVER. High expectations make failure that much harder to swallow.
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