Where does eveyone stand on smoking bans?

[KC2004]

Originally Posted by Laz

agreed ..... but smoking is invasive


if someone was walking around with a tank of toxic gas that was leaking and making people sick, would you want somebody to stop them?

walk into a resturant to eat ... leaking toxic gas .... if everyone in the resturant gets sick, then it's their own dam fault for breathing in a public place?

I have a lunch crowd that comes in my bar and if I know the patron is a non-smoker I myself will refrain from smoking till they have finished their lunch and left. Common courtesy goes a long ways.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by KC2004

I have a lunch crowd that comes in my bar and if I know the patron is a non-smoker I myself will refrain from smoking till they have finished their lunch and left. Common courtesy goes a long ways.

Would you say that you are the exception or the rule?

[Simplex3]

Originally Posted by KC2004

I have a lunch crowd that comes in my bar and if I know the patron is a non-smoker I myself will refrain from smoking till they have finished their lunch and left. Common courtesy goes a long ways.

In my experience very, very few smokers are this courteous.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by Simplex3

In my experience very, very few smokers are this courteous.

I would never smoke around a non-smoker when he/she was eating. Hell, I didn't like to smoke when I was eating, although I knew people who did. I also always went out of my way not to blow smoke in the direction of non-smokers. With reasonable people, this generally worked. The problem is, the first casualties of the banning mindset are reason and compromise.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by frazod

The problem is, the first casualties of the banning mindset are reason and compromise.

i believe this was covered in the The Patriot Act

[Simplex3]

Originally Posted by frazod

I would never smoke around a non-smoker when he/she was eating. Hell, I didn't like to smoke when I was eating, although I knew people who did. I also always went out of my way not to blow smoke in the direction of non-smokers. With reasonable people, this generally worked. The problem is, the first casualties of the banning mindset are reason and compromise.

Yeah, I'm pretty torn on the issue. I know around here places needed a kick in the ass to do something, no business was willing to be the first place that went non-smoking. I'm all for allowing a business to declare itself a smoking establishment. I think a lot of owners were just looking for someone else to blame as to why you couldn't light up.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by frazod

I would never smoke around a non-smoker when he/she was eating. Hell, I didn't like to smoke when I was eating, although I knew people who did. I also always went out of my way not to blow smoke in the direction of non-smokers. With reasonable people, this generally worked. The problem is, the first casualties of the banning mindset are reason and compromise.

I'll ask this question again:

Do you consider yourself the exception or the rule?

I want to get an answer from a smokers (or ex-smokers) perspective.

[KC2004]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'll ask this question again:

Do you consider yourself the exception or the rule?

I want to get an answer from a smokers (or ex-smokers) perspective.

I would have to say yes. I don't smoke when i'm eating. I sit in the non-smoking section most of the time because I have kids. Also if some asshole lit up around me when my kids are there they would get a ear full.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'll ask this question again:

Do you consider yourself the exception or the rule?

I want to get an answer from a smokers perspective.

EX-Smoker's perspective.

Honestly, I don't know. I was probably more mindful of it and considerate than most.

I believe in the concept of reasonable expectation. If you go in a bar where most of the patrons smoke, you shouldn't expect everybody to bend to your will. It's not like there weren't non-smoking bars/restaurants before the ban. Non-smokers could go there. Must non-smokers control every single bar and restaurant? Sorry, but I just don't buy into this dumbassdannazifan idea that everybody has to alter their lives just because I don't like something.

[KC2004]

Originally Posted by Simplex3

In my experience very, very few smokers are this courteous.

I've alway's been nice about not smoking people that don't. So cause some other people do it I must do it? Sterotyping at its best.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by KC2004

I have a lunch crowd that comes in my bar and if I know the patron is a non-smoker I myself will refrain from smoking till they have finished their lunch and left. Common courtesy goes a long ways.

that's cool

like i said, i don't get a dam what you put into your body ..... just don't dump it on me.


that said if a Bar wants to label itself a "smoking bar" ... it's fine with me i guess.