KC residents - How are you voting on the smoking ban in April?

[Adept Havelock]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You CLEARLY don't understand what is at stake in the smoking bans.

I clearly don't understand? GFY you self-righteous, sanctimonious, pus-sucking, festering, vile wedge of asscheese.

I've watched several family members die from it. I understand completely. It's why I quit.

Where we disagree, you fu*king ignorant and presumptuous busybody, is that it's the governments job to dictate what others should or should not be allowed to do with their property when it comes to a legal behavior. I prefer to leave choices to the individual, you want Nanny Sam to dictate your view to everyone.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Do you know ANYTHING about health insurance? The upward spiral of insuring the elderly? The more than 400,000 people who are hospitalized each year with smoking-related illnesses?

Why is health insurance on the continual rise? Because of smoking-related illnesses. Who pays for these smokers?

The American public.

How? Through higher insurance premiums as well as Medicare and state Medicaid.

Once a smoker with a pre-determined condition is no longer employed by a company that has group health-care, that person has almost NO chance of securing health insurance.

The result? The American people foot the bill. More importantly, the 82% of the American People who DO NOT SMOKE.

So, what can state and local governments do to reduce the number of smoking-related deaths and illnesses? Well for starters, how about banning smoking in public places, like shopping malls, bars and restaurants.

This issue is FAR deeper than just "letting the business owners decide" or just "Go Somewhere Else".

It's a matter of public safety, whether you're aware of it or not.

Actually, It's a matter of property rights and manipulating government to prohibit behaviors you personally detest, but don't let that stop you from getting indignant and claiming otherwise.

Sorry, but your other rants have made it all to clear your main problem with it is that there would be places you would have to avoid going. Why? Because they would permit smoking and thus must be forced to change to accommodate you. It's too late to play the "think of the children" card, and expect anyone to buy it.

BTW- I'm still waiting for you to answer my question about who "Forced" you or your dumbass sidekick meme to go to an establishment that permitted smoking? Why didn't you file criminal charges against whoever "forced" you to go to these places? Right...because you CHOSE to go, and then CHOSE to whine about the behaviors the management permitted. And in your case, you CHOSE to stay at the Fox and Hound sucking down secondhand smoke. Brilliant!