Looking at it now, McFadden is the only guy were really don't want

Micjones · 02-27-2008, 03:33 PM

I don't want Gholston or Chris Long either.
We can't spend a Top 5 pick on backups.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 02-27-2008, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

I don't want Gholston or Chris Long either.
We can't spend a Top 5 pick on backups.

NEITHER would be backups, dipwad.

Micjones · 02-27-2008, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

NEITHER would be backups, dipwad.

Insightful.

Care to explain where either of them would start?
Surely you aren't suggesting that Jared Allen would be supplanted by either are you?
There's always Tamba Hali's spot. Rob one First Round Peter to play another First Round Paul.
Makes sense. Or we could move one either Gholston or Long inside... Let them play something other than their natural position. Or we could always create a special spot for one of them to find a way to get them on the field. Or I suppose we could trade Jared Allen. He could've been had last season for a 1st and a 3rd and no one budged, but surely we'll find someone willing to give up two #1's.

You might wanna hold off on the namecalling.
Especially on the kind that calls someone else's intelligence into question.

**The Bad Guy** · 02-27-2008, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

I don't want Gholston or Chris Long either.
We can't spend a Top 5 pick on backups.

Bullshit.

You have one DE who is one bad move away from being suspended for the year.

Tamba is far from a sure thing at DE.

Gholston or Long would immediately become huge parts of the pass rush for the Chiefs.

Micjones · 02-27-2008, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Bullshit.

You have one DE who is one bad move away from being suspended for the year.

The same DE the Chiefs just gave 9 million dollars to.
They're uber-concerned about that possibility.
So spend a Top 5 pick on an insurance policy.
It'll work out great in the event that Allen stays clean.

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Tamba is far from a sure thing at DE.

But Gholston and Chris "I haven't played a down in the NFL" Long are?

**ShortRoundChief** · 02-27-2008, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

The same DE the Chiefs just gave 9 million dollars to.
They're uber-concerned about that possibility.
So spend a Top 5 pick on an insurance policy.
It'll work out great in the event that Allen stays clean.

But Gholston and Chris "I haven't played a down in the NFL" Long are?

fwiw the 9 million the chiefs whacked on JA at this point isn't guaranteed.

BigChiefFan · 02-27-2008, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

I don't want Gholston or Chris Long either.
We can't spend a Top 5 pick on backups.

I'm really getting a little sick of the Gholston is a back-up comment because it isn't true. He would START for the Chiefs or any other team for that matter.
Back-up?? That's laughable.

**Bowser** · 02-27-2008, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by findthedr

bullshit. who is he going to replace:

jared allen? no
Tamba Hali? possibly, but that would be a waste of a 1st round pick to make him a backup.

Chris Long and Gholston would be backups for the chiefs (at least as rookies)....and that isnt worth a top 5 pick.

If you get either player, it would be as a replacement for Jared Allen...that is the only reason.

OR, we could take him, move Donnie Edwards inside, let Nap Harris ride pine, and let Gholston play OLB. He's not ideally an OLB in a Cover 2, but you could find ways to utilize him. His ability on the field would make it easy.

Gholston blitzing from Jared Allen's side = sack for Tamba Hali.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 02-27-2008, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

OR, we could take him, move Donnie Edwards inside, let Nap Harris ride pine, and let Gholston play OLB. He's not ideally an OLB in a Cover 2, but you could find ways to utilize him. His ability on the field would make it easy.

Gholston blitzing from Jared Allen's side = sack for Tamba Hali.

That's just ONE way to use him.

To think that Long or Gholston would sit behind Tamba Hali is laughable.

beach tribe · 02-27-2008, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by findthedr

having gholston play LB in a 4-3 defense would be stupid. He ran a 4.68 40....for comparison sake DJ ran a 4.52.

So you want to stick gholston on the outside (at over 260lbs) and move Donnie to the inside? Our inside will get exploited by the run, and gholston will be tested/exposed all day in pass coverage. If gholston played LB in a 4-3, it would be at MLB. drafting a tweener/backup at #5 with someone who doesnt exactly fit our system would be a bad idea.

I hate admitting that I agree with you.

Logical · 02-27-2008, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by findthedr

having gholston play LB in a 4-3 defense would be stupid. He ran a 4.68 40....for comparison sake DJ ran a 4.52.

So you want to stick gholston on the outside (at over 260lbs) and move Donnie to the inside? Our inside will get exploited by the run, and gholston will be tested/exposed all day in pass coverage. If gholston played LB in a 4-3, it would be at MLB. drafting a tweener/backup at #5 with someone who doesnt exactly fit our system would be a bad idea.

How bout we just don't draft Gholston, if we don't want him at DE and we are not changing to a 3-4 he is not a good fit for our team.

Micjones · 02-27-2008, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

I'm really getting a little sick of the Gholston is a back-up comment because it isn't true. He would START for the Chiefs or any other team for that matter.
Back-up?? That's laughable.

Gholston will come in and immediate replace Hali as a starter?
Is that what you're suggesting?

Micjones · 02-27-2008, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by findthedr

bullshit. who is he going to replace:

jared allen? no
Tamba Hali? possibly, but that would be a waste of a 1st round pick to make him a backup.

Chris Long and Gholston would be backups for the chiefs (at least as rookies)....and that isnt worth a top 5 pick.

If you get either player, it would be as a replacement for Jared Allen...that is the only reason.

Exactly.

This Madden '08 school of General Management is hilarious.

**Tribal Warfare** · 02-27-2008, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Exactly.

This Madden '08 school of General Management is hilarious.

Then why why are you here? Since this is a site to discuss and give opinions on football and other general topics from fellow posters

Micjones · 02-27-2008, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Then why why are you here? Since this is a site to discuss and give opinions on football and other general topics from fellow posters

I'm here to hopefully raise the level of those discussions.
You cannot draft a DE with a Top 5 pick who will not come into your organization and start. Especially when there are clear cut options for obtaining a MUCH cheaper (and likely more productive) #3 DE in Free Agency.

You put that #5 pick to better use.
Get a Sedrick Ellis or Glenn Dorsey to complement your two bookend DE's.

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