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Old 02-28-2008, 03:04 PM  
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Does nobody care that Bill Kuharich was on with Soren Petro today?

I thought it was very interesting some of the things he said.

He said the draft was VERY deep this year, especially at CB and OT, and he thought that unlike some years sure-fire starters could go VERY late. In fact, in reference to CB's, he said if the "run" didn't start until the late 1st round, there might be starting-caliber CB's available in the FOURTH round.

He also said, in so many words, that at DT there was Dorsey and Ellis and then everybody else. He said the gap between Jake Long and the next tier was alot less drastic than the gap between Dorsey and Ellis and the next tier.
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Old 02-28-2008, 03:57 PM   #16
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This place is going to go ballistic when they take Ryan or McFadden.
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Old 02-28-2008, 03:59 PM   #17
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This place is going to go ballistic when they take Ryan or McFadden.
It's going to go ballistic no matter what.
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Old 02-28-2008, 03:59 PM   #18
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This place is going to go ballistic when they take Ryan or McFadden.
It will be glorious.


And really, can we botch the fifth pick overall? Surely they're not dumb enough to take Clady or Otah, right?
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Old 02-28-2008, 03:59 PM   #19
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This place is going to go ballistic when they take Ryan or McFadden.
Ryan, I doubt it.

He's not anybody's first choice really, but it's hard to fault the team if they decide to try and improve the most important position on the field.

McFadden will probably be a different story, considering the amount of money we gave to LJ.

For me, I'm past that point. As long as the Chiefs don't trade down, there's very few guys that they might draft at #5 that would honestly upset me. I just don't care enough anymore. Maybe Ryan Clady.
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Old 02-28-2008, 04:01 PM   #20
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And really, can we botch the fifth pick overall? Surely they're not dumb enough to take Clady or Otah, right?


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Old 02-28-2008, 04:03 PM   #21
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I'm for whatever pick ends up cleaning house at the end of the season. If it's Dorsey with a busted fibula then god-bless.
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Old 02-28-2008, 04:06 PM   #22
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I'm for whatever pick ends up cleaning house at the end of the season. If it's Dorsey with a busted fibula then god-bless.
LOL What?
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Old 02-28-2008, 04:09 PM   #23
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For me, I'm past that point. As long as the Chiefs don't trade down, there's very few guys that they might draft at #5 that would honestly upset me. I just don't care enough anymore. Maybe Ryan Clady.
Add me to this group.

Picking 5th guarantees that at least ONE of the following will be available:

Gholston
Ellis
Dorsey
C. Long
J. Long

And if Ryan and/or McFadden comes off the board early, it gives us OPTIONS.
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Old 02-28-2008, 04:11 PM   #24
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I'm telling you, the Falcons are going to take McFadden or they'll trade with someone that does want him.
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Old 02-28-2008, 04:15 PM   #25
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Ellis is the guy I think they're locking in on. JMO at this point, could change.
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Old 02-28-2008, 04:20 PM   #26
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Ellis is the guy I think they're locking in on. JMO at this point, could change.
You could very well be right. They've talked about Dorsey an awful lot, so it could be a red herring.

Of course, at the very beginning of the interview, Soren relayed to Kuharich the story about him asking Carl what he'd do if he had the #1 overall pick.

Kuharich was genuinely aghast that Carl said Dorsey without hesitation. It was pretty hilarious. I don't know if he was more surprised that Carl openly talked about a player they'd been discussing, or just the fact that Carl didn't give his typical BS cloak and dagger answer...
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Old 02-28-2008, 04:34 PM   #27
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Good to know Kuharich has a monopoly on all that is real and true about this year's Draft class.

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Old 02-28-2008, 04:37 PM   #28
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Good to know Kuharich has a monopoly on all that is real and true about this year's Draft class.

He doesn't anymore.

You missed the point.
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Old 02-28-2008, 04:42 PM   #29
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He doesn't anymore.

You missed the point.
Which was what? That the draft is deep at certain positions?
Tell me something I don't know Bill.
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Old 02-28-2008, 04:46 PM   #30
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Which was what? That the draft is deep at certain positions?
Tell me something I don't know Bill.


If your stomach can handle it, head over to the Draft forum.

In case you don't want to deal with that, I'll give you the basic premise.

A) We were told that the Chiefs were targetting Jake Long because guys like Chuck Cook, Bill Kuharich, etc. said so. We were told that the Chiefs brass were the best source of info, and suggestions that they might be throwing up smokescreens were scoffed at.

B) We were then told that Trevor Laws is a Sedrick Ellis clone.

C) Interestingly enough, Bill Kuharich, who was previously established as a reliable source of information says definitively that Sedrick Ellis and Glenn Dorsey are in a class by themselves.

So either A is false, or B is false. By the very nature of C, they cannot both be true.
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