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Old 03-11-2008, 09:28 AM   #1
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How exactly do “guns start going off” on their own?
Who stated that they're going off on their own?

If a bunch of armed people under attack start pulling out guns and firing in a panicked situation I'm not confident everyone is going to have great aim and/or control.
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Old 03-11-2008, 09:30 AM   #2
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Old 03-11-2008, 09:32 AM   #3
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Who stated that they're going off on their own?
You did. You didn’t mention a word about the people pulling the trigger, just that guns would start going off.

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If a bunch of armed people under attack start pulling out guns and firing in a panicked situation I'm not confident everyone is going to have great aim and/or control.
Why do you automatically assume everyone will pull their gat and start hosing down everything in front of them?
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Old 03-11-2008, 09:41 AM   #4
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You did. You didn’t mention a word about the people pulling the trigger, just that guns would start going off.
Don't be an ass about semantics.

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Why do you automatically assume everyone will pull their gat and start hosing down everything in front of them?
Why do you automatically assume that people, if armed, wont pull out their weapons and start firing?
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Old 03-11-2008, 09:54 AM   #5
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Why do you automatically assume that people, if armed, wont pull out their weapons and start firing?
Because I’ve grown up around guns. Most of my friends, family, have also but oddly none of us have ever pulled one of our guns and just indiscriminately shot at people.
What experience do you have with guns? Maybe that’s where the problem is.
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Old 03-11-2008, 10:01 AM   #6
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Because I’ve grown up around guns. Most of my friends, family, have also but oddly none of us have ever pulled one of our guns and just indiscriminately shot at people.
What experience do you have with guns? Maybe that’s where the problem is.
So if you were in a situation in which you had your gun and someone came in and opened fire you would sit tight without responding?

My experience with guns is that I was walking to class one day on a CC campus 4-5 years ago when about 30-40 feet in front of me a guy comes up and shoots his ex girlfriend in the head and then kills himself. I don't need or want any further experiences with guns.
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Old 03-11-2008, 10:08 AM   #7
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So if you were in a situation in which you had your gun and someone came in and opened fire you would sit tight without responding?
So, the only way to intelligently defend yourself, others around you, is to pull your gat and empty your magazine at whatever’s in front of you?

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My experience with guns is that I was walking to class one day on a CC campus 4-5 years ago when about 30-40 feet in front of me a guy comes up and shoots his ex girlfriend in the head and then kills himself. I don't need or want any further experiences with guns.
I’m sorry for your bad experience. It’s a hard thing to watch someone die, there is nothing glamorous or noble about it. It’s just dead.
Though, several times more people die due to automotive related incidents than die from gun related ones, but I assume you’re still driving.
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Old 03-11-2008, 10:17 AM   #8
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So, the only way to intelligently defend yourself, others around you, is to pull your gat and empty your magazine at whatever’s in front of you?
Would you or wouldn't you? If you were at VT or NIU, you were armed, and someone entered your classroom and started shooting would you fire back or not?
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Old 03-11-2008, 10:13 AM   #9
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So if you were in a situation in which you had your gun and someone came in and opened fire you would sit tight without responding?

My experience with guns is that I was walking to class one day on a CC campus 4-5 years ago when about 30-40 feet in front of me a guy comes up and shoots his ex girlfriend in the head and then kills himself. I don't need or want any further experiences with guns.
I'm sorry you had to witness that, but it doesn't sound like the law entered into the equation at all for this guy. You could make a million laws against what he did and he still would have done it.
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Old 03-11-2008, 10:15 AM   #10
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I'm sorry you had to witness that, but it doesn't sound like the law entered into the equation at all for this guy. You could make a million laws against what he did and he still would have done it.
You're absolutely right, but I don't see how having an armed campus would have prevented it either.
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Old 03-11-2008, 10:20 AM   #11
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So if you were in a situation in which you had your gun and someone came in and opened fire you would sit tight without responding?

My experience with guns is that I was walking to class one day on a CC campus 4-5 years ago when about 30-40 feet in front of me a guy comes up and shoots his ex girlfriend in the head and then kills himself. I don't need or want any further experiences with guns.
Fair enough, don't carry one.

I understand what you are saying about the idea that people could mis-fire and more chaos might reign, but dang dude...you are advocating people just being sheep and having no means of protection. Pretty hard to take out a shooter with a can of mace...

When my daughter goes to college some day, I will definitely get her the pepper spray etc, and if she felt comfortable, I'd suggest a firearm. I don't believe in being a lemming and I sure as hell don't want my daughter to be one. My son too, for that matter.

Where did the guy from VT get his guns anyway?
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Old 03-11-2008, 10:25 AM   #12
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When my daughter goes to college some day, I will definitely get her the pepper spray etc, and if she felt comfortable, I'd suggest a firearm.
Good luck, but the majority of college campuses restrict the presence of any firearms, whether you have a permit or not.
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Old 03-11-2008, 04:10 PM   #13
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Why do you automatically assume that people, if armed, wont pull out their weapons and start firing?
why do you assume that everyone who could legally carry a firearm concealed on a college campus instantly becomes a reerun in a stressful situation?
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