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Old 03-19-2008, 08:09 AM   #1
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The few great ones are more that "system QBs"

Farve, Elgay, Montana, ....


the rest are just good system QBs. If they adapt and move around in enough systems they can get to the next level maybe.
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Old 03-19-2008, 08:10 AM   #2
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The few great ones are more that "system QBs"

Farve, Elgay, Montana, ....


the rest are just good system QBs. If they adapt and move around in enough systems they can get to the next level maybe.
I respectfully disagree with you about Montana.
Montana was every inch a system QB. If he would have lived outside the play, outside the pocket, where Elway and Favre regularly played little Joe would have been killed. He had neither the arm nor the body for it.
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Old 03-19-2008, 08:12 AM   #3
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Montana was every inch a system QB. If he would have lived outside the play, outside the pocket, where Elway and Favre regularly played little Joe would have been killed. He had neither the arm nor the body for it.

His success was primarily in the West Coast Offense which was patterned on very precise timing.

So unless someone here wants to tell Vailpass and I that Hall of Fame Coach WALSH!! didn't have a very advanced system....
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Old 03-19-2008, 08:10 AM   #4
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The few great ones are more that "system QBs"

Farve, Elgay, Montana, ....


the rest are just good system QBs. If they adapt and move around in enough systems they can get to the next level maybe.
So Marino, Manning and Brady are "just good system QBs"?

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Old 03-19-2008, 08:25 AM   #5
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The few great ones are more that "system QBs"

Farve, Elgay, Montana, ....


the rest are just good system QBs. If they adapt and move around in enough systems they can get to the next level maybe.
Montana was the poster boy for the System QB.
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Old 03-19-2008, 08:26 AM   #6
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Montana was the poster boy for the System QB.
Complete horse shit.
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Old 03-19-2008, 09:24 AM   #7
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Complete horse shit.
I'm interested in hearing why you think Montana was not a system QB.
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I'm interested in hearing why you think Montana was not a system QB.
Montana won many, many games on the strength of his ability. There is a lot more to being a quarterback than how far you can throw a ball.
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Montana won many, many games on the strength of his ability. There is a lot more to being a quarterback than how far you can throw a ball.
I agree completely. The thing that Walsh was so great at was taking advantage of the QB's ability, then game planning and putting that together then creating situations to be succesful.

Now, was it all the system? of course not. But he did benifit greatly from it.
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Old 03-19-2008, 09:47 AM   #10
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David Klinger, Andre Ware, etc. were system quarterbacks. That is why they couldn't cut it in the NFL. You could have put Montana in any system and he would have looked good, because he was good.
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Montana won many, many games on the strength of his ability. There is a lot more to being a quarterback than how far you can throw a ball.
You can be a Montana fan and still acknowledge he was a system QB, probably the best system QB to ever play the game.
Do you think Montana would have won as many games as Favre or Elway if he had played on the teams either of those had; teams that required the QB to carry the game in many of their seasons?

BTW, I'm not saying 'system QB' is a negative, I don't think it is at all. I consider the term to mean the QB has mastered the offense and runs it at top capacity.
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You can be a Montana fan and still acknowledge he was a system QB, probably the best system QB to ever play the game.
Do you think Montana would have won as many games as Favre or Elway if he had played on the teams either of those had; teams that required the QB to carry the game in many of their seasons?

BTW, I'm not saying 'system QB' is a negative, I don't think it is at all. I consider the term to mean the QB has mastered the offense and runs it at top capacity.
Does your dumbass realize that Favre spent every year of his starting career as a West Coast QB??

You dipfucks act like Montana had a noodle arm--he actually had good arm strength, and was laser accurate. He could have played in any system--Coryell, WCO, Herm Ball, and won.

People also forget that he was a hell of an athlete. He ran for a lot of yards early in his career and he was very, very mobile.
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Complete horse shit.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that when this phrase (system QB) started? Was with Montana and the Bill Parcels dubbed Bll Walsh ran West coast offense.
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