****Official 2008 CP Mock Draft Picks Thread**** - Page 61

**OnTheWarpath15** · 06:46 PM

The following trades have effected the draft order:

Corey Williams to Cleveland for a R2 pick.

Shaun Rogers to Cleveland for a R3 pick.

Kris Jenkins to the Jets for a R3 pick.

Marcus Stroud to the Bills for a R3 pick.

Redskins to Broncos. The Washington Redskins traded their fourth-round selection in 2008, and their third-round selection in 2007 (used to select Ryan Harris) to the Denver Broncos as part of a three-team trade in which Washington received T.J. Duckett and Atlanta received Ashley Lelie. (This was the result of a formula which could have had Denver and Washington swapping 2007 first-round selections.)

Saints to Jets. The Saints traded their fourth-round selection in 2008 to the Jets, for Jonathan Vilma.

Jets to Panthers. The New York Jets traded their third-round and fifth-round selections to the Carolina Panthers in a deal that sent Kris Jenkins to New York.

Dolphins to Chiefs. Miami (conditionally) traded its fifth-round selection in 2008 to the Kansas City Chiefs in exchange for Trent Green. The selection would have become a fourth-round selection if Green had met certain performance criteria.

Bears to Bills. Chicago (conditionally) traded their fifth-round selection in 2008 to Buffalo in exchange for Darwin Walker. The round of the selection may change, depending on Walker's playing time.

Panthers to Bears. The Carolina Panthers traded their fifth-round selection in 2008 to Chicago in exchange for Chris Harris.

Raiders to Broncos. Oakland (conditionally) traded their fifth-round selection in 2008 to Denver in exchange for Gerard Warren.

Bills to Jaguars The Buffalo Bills traded a 3rd and 5th round selection to the Jacksonville Jaguars in return for DT Marcus Stroud.

Seahawks to Browns. The Seattle Seahawks traded their sixth-round selection in 2008 to Cleveland in exchange for Charlie Frye.[24]

Packers to Giants. The Green Bay Packers traded their sixth-round selection in 2008 to the New York Giants in exchange for running back Ryan Grant.

Broncos to Rams. Denver traded their sixth-round selection in 2008 to the St. Louis Rams for defensive tackle Jimmy Kennedy.[26] The trade occurred after the Broncos had tried to trade the same pick to Miami for defensive tackle Dan Wilkinson; that trade was voided.

Browns to Eagles. Cleveland traded their sixth-round selection in 2008 to Philadelphia for center Hank Fraley. The trade was conditional on games started by Fraley, and could have fallen to a seventh-round pick, but Fraley started all 16 games.

Cowboys/Dolphins swap. The teams swapped their sixth-round selections in a trade involving Jason Ferguson.

Jaguars to Vikings. Jacksonville traded their sixth-round selection for Troy Williamson.

Texans to Broncos. Houston traded their sixth-round pick for Chris Myers.

Steelers to Falcons. The Pittsburgh Steelers traded their seventh-round selection in 2008 to Atlanta for kick/punt returner Allen Rossum.

Seahawks to Eagles. Seattle traded their seventh-round selection in 2008 to Philadelphia for fullback Josh Parry.

Eagles to Bills. Philadelphia traded their seventh-round selection in 2008, and defensive tackle Darwin Walker, to Buffalo for linebacker Takeo Spikes and quarterback Kelly Holcomb.

Rams to Vikings. St. Louis traded their seventh-round selection in 2008 to Minnesota for offensive tackle Adam Goldberg.

Giants to Chiefs. The New York Giants traded their seventh-round selection in 2008 to Kansas City for kicker Lawrence Tynes.

Vikings to Jets. Minnesota traded their seventh-round pick in 2008 to the Jets in exchange for Brooks Bollinger.

Bengals to Rams. Cincinnati traded their seventh-round pick in 2008 to St. Louis in exchange for Ryan Fitzpatrick.

When making your selection, please list the player's name, his position and the school he played for. Not everyone has the same level of knowledge about prospects, and this information will help people who want to research these players further.

Also, if you would, please tell us your reasoning for selecting the player you did. It doesn't have to be a novel, just give some insight on your thought process.

Let's have some fun.

Round 1

1 DOLPHINS (Hamas Jenkins) - Vernon Gholston, DE, Ohio State
2 RAMS (BigChiefFan) - Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU
3 FALCONS (jiveturkey) - Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College
4 RAIDERS (ChiefsCountry) - Chris Long, DE, Virginia
5 CHIEFS (Mecca) - Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC
6 JETS (PHOG) - Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas
7 PATRIOTS (MarcoPolo) - Jake Long, OT, Michigan
8 RAVENS (Mr Flopnuts) - Leodis McKelvin, CB, Troy
9 BENGALS (Spicy McHaggis) - Keith Rivers, LB, USC
10 SAINTS (OnTheWarpath58) - Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB, Tenn. St.
11 BILLS (Direckshun) - Mike Jenkins, CB, South Florida
12 BRONCOS (ct) - Kenny Phillips, S, Miami
13 PANTHERS (Chiefscafan) - Brian Brohm, QB, Louisville
14 BEARS (Sanka) - Malcolm Kelly, WR, Oklahoma
15 LIONS (BigRock) - Ryan Clady, OT, Boise State
16 CARDINALS (Archie Bunker) - Rashard Mendenhall, RB,Illinois
17 VIKINGS (Zeke Ziggle) - Phillip Merling, DE, Clemson
18 TEXANS (sfeihc) - Derrick Harvey, DE, Florida
19 EAGLES (Sandy Limpdick) - Limas Sweed, WR, Texas
20 BUCCANEERS (Direckshun) - Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona
21 REDSKINS (Sully) - Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College
22 COWBOYS (htismaqe) - Chris Williams, OT, Vanderbilt
23 STEELERS (milkman) - Brandon Albert, G, Virgina
24 TITANS (JBucc) - Jonathan Stewart, RB, Oregon
25 SEAHAWKS (DaKCManAP) - DeSean Jackson, WR, California
26 JAGUARS (pestilenceaf23) - Lawrence Jackson, DE, USC
27 CHARGERS (noa) - Jeff Otah, OT, Pittsburgh
28 COWBOYS (htismaqe) - Aqib Talib, CB, Kansas
29 49ERS (bsp4444) - James Hardy, WR, Indiana
30 PACKERS (crazycoffey) - Reggie Smith, DB, Oklahoma
31 GIANTS (bdeg) - Dan Connor, LB, Penn State

Round 2

32 DOLPHINS (Hamas Jenkins) - Carl Nicks, OT, Nebraska
33 RAMS (BigChiefFan) - Sam Baker, OT, USC
34 RAIDERS (ChiefsCountry) - Kentwan Balmer, DT North Carolina
35 CHIEFS (Mecca) - Quentin Groves, DE, Auburn
36 JETS (PHOG) - Devin Thomas, WR, Michigan St.
37 FALCONS (jiveturkey) - Patrick Lee, CB, Auburn
38 RAVENS (Mr Flopnuts) - Joe Flacco, QB, Delaware
39 49ERS (bsp4444) - Calais Campbell, DE, Miami
40 SAINTS (OnTheWarpath58) - Pat Sims, DT, Auburn
41 BILLS (sfeihc) - Fred Davis, TE, USC
42 BRONCOS (ct) - Anthony Collins. OT, Kansas
43 PANTHERS (Chiefscafan) - Jerod Mayo, ILB, Tennesee
44 BEARS (Sanka) - Felix Jones, RB, Arkansas
45 LIONS (BigRock) - Brandon Flowers, CB, Virginia Tech
46 BENGALS (Spicy McHaggis) Martellus Bennett, TE, Texas A&M
47 VIKINGS (Zeke Ziggle) - John Carlson, TE, Notre Dame
48 FALCONS (jiveturkey) - Frank Okam, DT, Texas
49 EAGLES (Sandy Limpdick) - Curtis Lofton, MLB, Oklahoma
50 CARDINALS (Archie Bunker) - Tracy Porter, CB, Indiana
51 REDSKINS (Sully) - Jordy Nelson, WR, Kansas State
52 BUCCANEERS (Direckshun) - Early Doucet, WR, LSU
53 STEELERS (milkman) - Chilo Rachal, OG, USC
54 TITANS (JBucc) - Mario Manningham, WR, Michigan
55 SEAHAWKS (DaKCManAP) - Brad Cottam, TE, Tennessee
56 PACKERS (crazycoffey) - Ali Highsmigh, OLB, LSU
57 DOLPHINS (Hamas Jenkins) - Cliff Avril, OLB, Purdue
58 JAGUARS (pestilenceaf23) - DaJuan Morgan, S, NC State
59 COLTS (BTAU) - Trevor Laws, DT, Notre Dame
60 PACKERS (crazycoffey) - Chad Henne, QB, Michigan
61 COWBOYS (htismaqe) - Jamaal Charles, RB, Texas
62 PATRIOTS (MarcoPolo) - Xavier Adibi, LB, Virginia Tech
63 GIANTS (bdeg) - Erin Henderson, LB, Maryland

Round 3

64 DOLPHINS (Hamas Jenkins) - Thomas DeCoud, SS, California
65 RAMS (BigChiefFan) - Andre Caldwell, WR, Florida
66 CHIEFS (Mecca) - Justin King, CB, Penn State
67 PANTHERS (Chiefscafan) - Chris Johnson, RB, East Carolina
68 FALCONS (jiveturkey) - Heath Benedict, OT, Newberry
69 PATRIOTS (MarcoPolo) - Shawn Crable, OLB, Michigan
70 49ERS (bsp4444) - Tavares Gooden, LB, Miami
71 BILLS (OnTheWarpath58) - Earl Bennett, WR, Vanderbilt
72 JAGUARS (pestilenceaf23) - Red Bryant, DT, Texas A&M
73 VIKINGS (Zeke Ziggle) - Andre Woodson, QB, Kentucky
74 PANTHERS (Chiefscafan) - Dre Moore, DT, Maryland
75 BEARS (Sanka) - Quintin Demps, S, UTEP
76 LIONS (BigRock) - Philip Wheeler, LB, Georgia Tech
77 BENGALS (Spicy McHaggis) - Roy Schuening, OG, Oregon State
78 SAINTS (OnTheWarpath58) - Dustin Keller, TE, Purdue
79 TEXANS (sfeihc) - Terrell Thomas, CB, USC
80 EAGLES (Sandy Limpdick) - Eric Young, OL, Tennessee
81 CARDINALS (Archie Bunker) - Drew Radovich, OG, USC
82 VIKINGS (Zeke Ziggle) - Marcus Harrison, DT, Arkansas
83 BUCCANEERS (Direckshun) - Tony Hills, OT, Texas
84 REDSKINS (Sully) - Josh Barrett, S, Arizona State
85 TITANS (JBucc) - Chris Ellis, DE, Virginia Tech
86 SEAHAWKS (DaKCManAP) - Ahtyba Rubin, DT, Iowa State
87 LIONS (BigRock) - Ray Rice, RB, Rutgers
88 STEELERS (milkman) - Charles Godfrey, CB, Iowa
89 JAGUARS (pestilenceaf23) - Josh Johnson, QB, San Diego
90 BEARS (Sanka) - Duane Brown, OT, Virginia Tech
91 PACKERS (crazycoffey) - Oneil Cousins, OT, UTEP
92 COWBOYS (htismaqe) - Eddie Royal, WR, Virginia Tech
93 COLTS (BTAU) - Geno Hayes, LB, Florida State
94 GIANTS (bdeg) - Tyrell Johnson, S, Arkansas St.
95 PATRIOTS (MarcoPolo) - Chevis Jackson, CB, LSU

Round 4

96 DOLPHINS (Hamas Jenkins) - Jonathan Goff. MLB, Vanderbilit
97 RAMS (BigChiefFan) - Mike Pollack, C, Arizona
98 JETS (milkman) - Donnie Avery. WR. Houston
99 FALCONS (DaKCManAP) - Beau Bell, MLB, UNLV
100 RAIDERS (ChiefsCountry) - Lavelle Hawkins, WR California
101 CHIEFS (Mecca) -Jerome Simpson, WR, Coastal Carolina
102 RAVENS (Mr Flopnuts) - John Grecco, OT, Toledo
103 49ERS (Chiefscafan) - Adarius Bowman, WR, Ok St.
104 BRONCOS (sfeihc) - DeMario Pressley, DT, NC State
105 PANTHERS (Chiefscafan) - Craig Steltz, S, LSU
106 BEARS (Sanka) - Eric Ainge, QB, Tennessee
107 LIONS (Archie Bunker) - Jermichael Finley, TE, Texas
108 BENGALS (Spicy McHaggis) - Marcus Howard, LB, Georgia
109 JETS (milkman) - Trae Williams, CB, South Florida
110 BILLS (ChiefsCountry) - Steve Justice, C, Wake Forest
111 EAGLES (Direckshun) - Wesley Woodyard, LB, Kentucky
112 CARDINALS (Archie Bunker) - Darrell Robertson, LB, Georgia Tech
113 VIKINGS (Hamas Jenkins) - Tyvon Brach, CB, Connecticut
114 TEXANS (sfeihc) - Ezra Butler, LB, Nevada
115 BRONCOS (sfeihc) - Kevin Smith, RB, Central Florida
116 BUCCANEERS (Direckshun) - Owen Schmitt, FB, West Virginia
117 SEAHAWKS (DaKCManAP) - Mike McGlynn, OG, Pittsburgh
118 BROWNS (Hamas Jenkins) - Matt Forte, RB, Tulane
119 STEELERS (milkman) - Simeon Castille, CB, Alabama
120 TITANS (Sanka) - Bruce Davis, LB, UCLA
121 JAGUARS (pestilenceaf23) - Antwuan Molden, CB, Eastern Kentucky
122 COWBOYS (OnTheWarpath58) - Jeremy Zuttah, OG, Rutgers
123 COLTS (OnTheWarpath58) - Jason Jones, DE, Eastern Michigan
124 PACKERS (pestilenceaf23) - Martin Rucker, TE, Missouri
125 PATRIOTS (Mr Flopnuts) - Steve Slaton, RB, West Virginia
126 GIANTS (bdeg) - Harry Douglas, WR, Louisville

Round 5

127 CHIEFS (Mecca) - Tashard Choice, RB, Georgia Tech
128 RAMS (BigChiefFan) - Kirk Barton, OT, Ohio State
129 FALCONS (DaKCManAP) - Marcus Monk, WR, Arkansas
130 BRONCOS (sfeihc) - Vince Hall, LB, Virginia Tech
131 CHIEFS (Mecca) - Barry Richardson, OT, Clemson
132 PANTHERS (Chiefscafan) - Trevor Scott, DE, Buffalo
133 49ERS (Chiefscafan) FORFEITED DUE TO TAMPERING
134 BEARS (Sanka) - Andre Fluellen, DT, Florida State
135 JAGUARS (pestilenceaf23) - John Sullivan, C, Notre Dame
136 LIONS (Archie Bunker) - Nick Hayden, DT, Wisconsin
137 BENGALS (Spicy McHaggis) - Kendall Langford, DE, Hampton
138 SAINTS (OnTheWarpath58) - Dexter Jackson, WR, Appalachian State
139 JAGUARS (pestilenceaf23) - Robert Felton, OG, Arkansas
140 BRONCOS (sfeihc) - Adrian Arrington, WR, Michigan
141 CARDINALS (Archie Bunker) - William Franklin, WR, Missouri
142 VIKINGS (Hamas Jenkins) - Kerry Brown, OG Appalachian State
143 TEXANS (sfeihc) - Stanford Kegler, LB, Purdue
144 EAGLES (Direckshun) - Mike Hart, RB, Michigan
145 BUCCANEERS (Direckshun) - Dorien Bryant, WR, Purdue
146 REDSKINS (BigChiefFan) - Gary Guyton, LB, Georgia Tech
147 EAGLES (Direckshun) - Terrence Wheatley, CB, Colorado
148 STEELERS (milkman) - Keenan Burton, WR, Kentucky
149 TITANS (Sanka) - Jeremy Thompson, DE, Wake Forest
150 SEAHAWKS (DaKCManAP) - Peyton Hillis, FB, Arkansas
151 JAGUARS (pestilenceaf23) - Orlando Scandrick, CB, Boise State
152 CHARGERS (Mecca) - Jamar Adams, SS, Michigan
153 COLTS (OnTheWarpath58) - John David Booty, QB, USC
154 PACKERS (pestilenceaf23) - Jack Ikegwuonu, CB, Wisconsin
155 COWBOYS (OnTheWarpath58) - Dwight Lowery, CB, San Jose State
156 PATRIOTS (Mr Flopnuts) - Paul Hubbard, WR, Wisconsin
157 GIANTS (bdeg) - Mike Gibson, OG, California

Round 6

158 COWBOYS (OnTheWarpath58) - Tom Zbikowski, S, Notre Dame
159 RAMS (BigChiefFan) - Michael Grant, CB/S, Arkansas
160 RAIDERS (ChiefsCountry) - Geoff Schwartz, T Oregon
161 CHIEFS (Mecca) - Craig Stevens, TE, Cal
162 JETS (milkman) - Kevin O'Connell, QB, San Diego St.
163 FALCONS (DaKCManAP) - Jack Williams, CB Kent State
164 RAVENS (Mr Flopnuts) - DJ Hall, WR, Alabama
165 49ERS (Chiefscafan) - Colt Brennan, QB, Hawaii
166 BEARS (Sanka) - Jordan Dizon, LB, Colorado
167 LIONS (Archie Bunker) - Marcus Griffin, S, Texas
168 BENGALS (Spicy McHaggis) -Jacob Hester, FB, LSU
169 SAINTS (OnTheWarpath58) - Kory Lichtensteiger, C, Bowling Green
170 BILLS (ChiefsCountry) - Spencer Lawson, LB, Arizona
171 RAMS (BigChiefFan) - J Lemen, LB, Illinois
172 PANTHERS (Chiefscafan) - Chase Ortiz, DE/LB, TCU
173 VIKINGS (Hamas Jenkins)- Brian Johnston, DE, Gardner Webb
174 BRONCOS (sfeihc) - Taylor Mehlhaff, K, Wisconsin
175 EAGLES (Direckshun) - Johnny Dingle. DE, West Virginia
176 CARDINALS (Archie Bunker) - David Roach, FS, TCU
177 REDSKINS (BigChiefFan) - Chad Rinehart, OG, Northern Iowa
178 CHIEFS (Mecca) - Davone Bess, WR, Hawaii
179 STEELERS (milkman) - Chauncey Washington, USC
180 TITANS (Sanka) - Darnell Terrell, CB, Missouri
181 BROWNS (Hamas Jenkins) - Cody Wallace, C Texas A&M
182 EAGLES (Direckshun) - Ken Iwebema, DE, Iowa
183 VIKINGS (Hamas Jenkins) - King Dunlap, OT, Auburn
184 CHARGERS (Mecca) - Cory Boyd, RB, South Carolina
185 GIANTS (bdeg) - DeJuan Tribble, CB, Boston College
186 DOLPHINS (Hamas Jenkins) - Kellen Davis, TE, Michigan State
187 COLTS (OnTheWarpath58) - Kevin Robinson, WR, Utah State
188 PATRIOTS (Mr Flopnuts) - Lamar Myles, LB, Louisville
189 GIANTS (bdeg) - Jacob Tamme, TE, Kentucky

Round 7

190 DOLPHINS (Hamas Jenkins) - Jalen Parmele, RB, Toledo
191 VIKINGS (Hamas Jenkins) - Arman Shields, WR Richmond
192 CHIEFS (Mecca) - Brandon Keith, OT/OG, Northern Iowa
193 JETS (milkman) - DJ Wolfe, SS, Oklahoma
194 FALCONS (DaKCManAP) - Chris Harrington, DE, Texas A&M
195 RAIDERS (ChiefsCountry) -Dennis Dixon, QB Oregon
196 49ERS (Chiefscafan) - Jayson Foster, WR, Georgia Southern
197 RAVENS (Mr Flopnuts) - Justin Forsett, RB, California
198 LIONS (Archie Bunker) - Ryan O'Hara, QB, Central Oklahoma
199 RAMS (BigChiefFan)- Steve Octavian, LB, Nebraska
200 SAINTS (OnTheWarpath58) - Jamie Silva, S, Boston College
201 BILLS (ChiefsCountry) - Bryan Kehl, LB BYU
202 BRONCOS (sfeihc) - Frank Morton, DT, Tulane
203 PANTHERS (Chiefscafan) - Demitrious Bell, OT, Northwestern State
204 BEARS (Sanka) - Anthony Aldridge, WR, Houston
205 TEXANS (sfeihc) - Caleb Campbell, s, Army
206 BILLS (ChiefsCountry) - Donald Thomas, G Connecticut
207 CARDINALS (Archie Bunker) - Tommy Blake, OLB, TCU
208 JETS (milkman) - Titus Brown, DE, Miss State
209 BUCCANEERS (Direckshun) - Letroy Guion, DT, FSU
210 REDSKINS (BigChiefFan) - Keilen Dykes, DT, West Virginia
211 TITANS (Sanka) - Darius Reynaud, WR, West Virginia
212 BILLS (ChiefsCountry) - Xavier Omon, RB Northwest Missouri State
213 BROWNS (Hamas Jenkins) - Lance Legget, WR, Miami
214 FALCONS (DaKCManAP) - Breno Giocomeni, OT, Louisville
215 JAGUARS (pestilenceaf23) - Allen Patrick, RB, Oklahoma
216 CHARGERS (Mecca) - Zack Bowman, CB, Nebraska
217 COWBOYS (OnTheWarpath58) -Matt Flynn, QB, LSU
218 COLTS (OnTheWarpath58) - Chris McDuffie, OG, Clemson
219 PACKERS (pestilenceaf23) - Carlton Powell, DT, Virginia Tech
220 PATRIOTS (Mr Flopnuts) - Marcel Reece WR Washington
221 CHIEFS (Mecca) - Glenn Sharpe, CB, Miami

bdeg · 03-27-2008, 09:59 AM

grade me please

Direckshun · 03-27-2008, 10:20 AM

Tennessee Titans (JBucc) - C+

The Titans' two jobs this offseason are to lock up Haynesworth and to finally surround poor Vince Young with some semblence of talent, after ripping it mostly away last year. Their first pick was a home run, as long as Jon Stewart stays healthy. He can develop very quickly into a stud RB that can punish you if you key in too much on Young -- it helps to finally have a RB who's a better rusher than your QB.

JBucc keeps trying to bail out Young by drafting WR in the second round, which at that point was a reach. Manningham was arguably the best WR left on the board at that time (although I'd say Bennett was), but it wasn't worth the 2nd rounder, not when they need help virtually everywhere else as well. But you can't give Young nothing, so I understand it. Chris Ellis was a fair pick in the third, but like I said, I'm lukewarm on DEs this Draft.

Miami Dolphins ('Hamas' Jenkins) - A-

Well it's impossible to argue with having the #1 pick in every round. The Dolphins had the best selection spot in the Draft, and appropriately took advantage of it. So much has been said about Gholston, but he is a beast in the making. Carl Nicks is basically a first-rounder anyway, and has the upside to man down the Dolphins LT for a decade. If he continues to progress, he's a Pro Bowler.

The Dolphins then treat themselves, perhaps for years, with Avril at the other OLB position to give themselves a potentially All Pro one-two punch with Gholston. Avril might have been a slight reach but Gholston makes this pick worth it. I did not like DeCoud at the top of the third, and I believe that was a reach when the Dolphins need sooooo many positions, but DeCoud is the exception in an otherwise great Draft.

New Orleans Saints (OnTheWarpath58) - B

The Saints are one of those polka-dotted teams in the need department it seems; in the several places they have needs, they have gigantic gaping needs. Most of them, unsurprisingly, are on defense. This is a defense that needs to get a lot tougher, and OTW did a Grade A job in the first round by selecting Rodgers-Cromartie, without a doubt in my mind the best CB in this Draft. Rodgers has the gifts to become a shutdown, and he's a lot tougher than people give him credit for.

DT Pat Sims is, despite his gigantic size, one of those DTs that's capable of playing anywhere from 0-tech to 3-tech if need be, but he's going to specialize as NT in the NFL. Thing is, I just don't think a beefy NT warrants a high 2nd rounder in the 4-3, but Sims' abilities somewhat reduces the reach. TE Dustin Keller, a pure receiving TE, is just what the doctor ordered for the offense, and was a good pick in the 3rd.

chiefscafan · 03-27-2008, 10:34 AM

damn didn't know about heath benedict been working alot lately.

RIP HEATH BENEDICT

Direckshun · 03-27-2008, 10:40 AM

New York Giants (bdeg) - B+

It's been noted that something's nutty about this Draft, as most teams have OL way overvalued and LB way undervalued. The Giants apparently took advantage of this and plucked two gifted LBs at great value. Dan Connor is a locker room leader at LB, and sports enough versatility that he can cover all LB positions. He's the forceful presense you need in the middle of the field and next to Pierce he should flourish. Great pick at the bottom of the 1st.

Erin Henderson is the best OLB in this Draft outside of Keith Rivers, and props to bdeg for taking a second linebacker with his second pick (a fairly unusual move). Henderson would have been good value early in the 2nd, and the Giants have a fantastic LB corps. S Tyrell Johnson is the "blah" pick here, a slight reach, especially since Steltz has a bright future at the same exact position.

San Diego Chargers (noa) - B-

The Chargers didn't have a lot to work with in the first three rounds, seeing how they only had a first. They get pretty darn good value near the bottom of the first in Otah, who has all the tools you need to be a solid RT. The position seems to be the only real hole in the Charger's OL armor, and Otah fills a need while still being great value.

Medium-ish grade, though, as only having one pick is... yeah.

Philadelphia Eagles (Sandy Limpdick) - D+

I've already canned on Limpdick's efforts here, so let me basically put a lid on all of it. I believe that Sweed, once again, is the second coming of Dwayne Jarrett and was an embarrassing reach for need in the first. MLB Curtis Lofton was a curious choice in the second (even though it wasn't his) as the LB corps in Philly is pretty damn solid already. But you can hardly argue with Lofton's value in the middle of the second, as he has the potential to become something special in the NFL.

And then there's the reach for Eric Young in the third, who projects merely as an interior lineman in the NFL. I've never thought Young had the ability to play tackle, but if I'm incredibly surprised and he can all-of-a-sudden fill in at LT, I'll be a fool of epic proportions. As it stands now, Young will ride the bench for at least a year and who knows how he'll turn out.

chiefscafan · 03-27-2008, 10:49 AM

OK I have a feeling my draft will have a bad grade but value wise I think I did good. but i'm currious what's my grade direckshun.

Direckshun · 03-27-2008, 11:00 AM

Baltimore Ravens (Mr Flopnuts) - D+

I've already had words with Flopnuts in this thread about my bad feelings about his Draft. It starts mostly with drafting Flacco in the second round, when the heart and soul of the Ravens' defense (Ray Lewis) may be in his last season in purple. You need a lot of presense to fill in eventually, and I felt Lofton was picture perfect as Lewis' heir. Nonetheless, the Ravens opted for Flacco, a 6'6" statuesque project with inflated numbers.

I was equally disappointed in his first round, as I am nowhere near as high on Leodis McKelvin as the rest of the planet is. I believe McKelvin has the gifts to become truly special in this league, the transition from Troy to the NFL is too perilous to warrant the Top 10. McKelvin is too unproven for me and now he gets to have Lewis and Reed jump down his throat every time they get to the sidelines.

Kansas City Chiefs (Mecca) - B+

Considering all the hype that's surrounded this Draft for the Chiefs, Mecca took a fairly unconventional route and in my opinion, it'll pay dividends for the Chiefs. This is, first and foremost, a Herm Edwards team, and you need to have a defense that can carry the offense, whether it needs to or not. The Ellis pick is genius for the obvious reasons, but it's the Groves pick that'll scratch Chiefs fans the wrong way.

I like it, as Herm's philosophy dictates that he'd rather wear out one good player than rotate that player with a mediocre player. Throwing Groves in means that Herm doesn't have to play Allen and Hali 50 snaps a game. There's a reason Allen doesn't get sacks in the second half... CB Justin King has a lot of upside if good coaching can siphon off his boneheaded inconsistency. I don't believe he was a reach, but I don't believe he was the right pick, either.

New York Jets (PHOG) - B+

The Jets only have two picks in this Draft, and PHOG made the safe, smart picks. Darren McFadden is the perfect ying to Thomas Jones' underwhelming yang, and will take a lot of pressure off whoever it is that's unfortunate enough to line up under center. He'll also have the newly acquired Tony Richardson and Alan Faneca to block for him, so props to PHOG for realizing that this is a team in need of a home run hitter at RB.

Devin Thomas was a good pick at the top of the second. There are other choices that I thought they could have benefitted from, but this pick does more to zazz up their lackluster offsense. Thomas isn't the kind of rookie that will make an immediately, Bowe-like splash, but he could come around in a year or maybe late this season.

Direckshun · 03-27-2008, 11:18 AM

Carolina Panthers (chiefscafan) - C+

I've gone back and forth on Brohm, but that internal debate has always been whether he was worth a 1st or a 2nd rounder. The thought never entered my mind that he was worth #13 overall, though. The Panthers reached hardcore for need here, as they are as QB-starved as the Falcons are. But they saw a guy that could be That Guy and leapt for him, unwise as it may have been. There are far too many questions I have about Brohm to agree.

It gets better in the second round. ILB Jarod Mayo is one of the most physically gifted defenders in this Draft, and was great value for Carolina in the middle of the 2nd, filling a huge need. I was less impressed with RB Chris Johnson early in the 3rd. It's not that I believe it was a reach, it's that there doesn't seem to be anything about him that demand the Panthers take him when they have the same player. Carolina sees something in him that I don't. DT Dre Moore was fair value in the middle of the 3rd, as the Panthers lost Jenkins and pride themselves on DTs.

Denver Broncos (ct) - F

The Broncos really didn't make the most of their measly two picks, much to my Chiefs homerism's delight. Kenny Phillips is a sturdy S prospect but he doesn't leap off the page in a way that a Top 15 pick should, especially when Clady was still on the page. Perhaps all the anti-Clady hype got to ct, I'm not sure, but Phillips barely warrants a 1st rounder at all, much less one that freakishly premature.

The second pick isn't much better, but it's not nearly as bad. OT Anthony Collins at least sports enough upside to eventually warrant a high pick in the 2nd, but the moon-sized holes in his run-blocking game need to be repaired and their existence should have scared Denver away from Collins with so many needs on defense.

Arizona Cardinals (Archie Bunker) - B+

I'm almost tempted to give the Cardinals an A without even examining their 2nd and 3rd. They just acquired a faster, younger Larry Johnson with their first round pick, a large handful of picks after he should have been taken. Rashard Mendenhall will make NFL linebackers sore for several years. 'Zona may finally have a run game that can properly compliment its air attack.

Tracy Porter made me cringe a few days ago with his Wonderlic, but he's Top 10 talent at his position. Here's my tagline (it's trademarked, asshole): a rock may not be smart, but it still hurts when it hits you in the head. You're welcome, ChiefsPlanet. He's great value for the Cards in the 2nd. Radovich is really overrated, methinks, and doesn't have much of a ceiling to exploit. I think he was a gigantic reach in the third, but it doesn't negate the two killer deals in the first two rounds.

chiefscafan · 03-27-2008, 11:32 AM

fair enough direckshun

I have two boom or bust picks maybe 3 if you add dre moore

the two are

Brohm and JOhnson

brohm maybe a system qb but then again what if he's one of these qbs who comes out of no where . Feeling by the panthers was he would never make it back to us . Chicago, Miami , or the falcons would have taken him before he got back to us. It was too much of a risk. If there is a player you like that you feel can lead your team and make them better sometimes you have to take them even if it is a reach quote in quote.

Chris Johnson hmm I know we've gone back and forth on this. Yes he's like Deangelo Williams so I should of got the bruiser RB and where is he gonna play.

I say direckshun 4.24 speed. I'm falling in love with combine numbers right? That is what I thought till I saw video on this kid. ONe other guy when I watched him in college did I say damn he has a fifth gear that no one can touch him. That guy was L.T. at TCU who played against about the same caliber talent.

Besides I didn't say he was my starter I said he is my KR/PR if he becomes a star even better. Too good of value direckshun he never should have gotten to me in the third. I feel I stole three players and reached for one not bad in the scheme of things.

Direckshun · 03-27-2008, 11:47 AM

Green Bay Packers (crazycoffey) - D

Well, after the Pack have largely rebuilt themselves with stellar drafting over the past few years, they slam into a massive speedbump here. I wasn't crazy about any of the Pack's four selections over the course of this Draft, and I don't even know if more than one of them will see any time in this league. Reggie Smith is the only exception, as the Pack need help in their secondary and Smith can man several positions. Henne at the bottom of the second wasn't that horrendous a pick, as depth was needed. But this soon? And Henne? Hmmm...

Highsmith was a mind-boggling pick, taken at least a couple rounds higher than he should have, especially when there are better OLBs with far more promise available -- this group of teams have undervalued OLB and there were better guys available. And Cousins was simply not worth the 3rd rounder. He barely plays OT and is going to need a complete makeover to play in the NFL, and who the hell knows how that'll turn out. The Pack set themselves back with this Draft, but it's possible that good comes out of it.

Oakland Raiders (ChiefsCountry) - A-

In the Top 10 picks, probably the only thing that rivaled my surprise that Jake Long dropped to the Patriots was Chris Long falling to the Raiders. I sincerely doubt three teams pass on this sure thing, and I'm convinced Long will actually go #1 overall. Nonetheless, ChiefsCountry made the obvious pick at #4 to stop the bleeding, and the Raiders get unbelievable value there. Literally unbelievable, as in I'm incapable of believing it.

DT Kentwan Balmer was an equally genius pick in the 2nd round. Balmer is a 1st round quality 3-tech, and as good as he is now, he's got a very high ceiling. They need offensive tackle help but they Balmer is not only BPA, he's also filling in a huge need for the Raiders. Fortunately, they've traded this pick away so this can't happen. They've traded their 3rd away too -- Oakland should just replace Al Davis with ChiefsCountry.

Jacksonville Jaguars (pestilenceaf23) - B+

The Jags made safe and smart picks at their first three spots, but none of them blew me away in value. It was a responsible Draft for a team that believes they are but a few pieces away from knocking off the Colts and Patriots for the AFC crown. Jackson was as solid a selection late in the first as any they could have made, and it filled a position of need.

S DeJuan Morgan could be considered a slight reach for the Jags in the second, but their secondary was one cornerstone away from being complete, and Morgan might be the final brick in the wall (mixed metaphor, but whatever). Red Bryant in the 3rd is probably as good a pick as they made in this Draft, replacing Stroud with a Bryant who's perfect to play 2-tech in the Jags' 4-3. Bryant should start right away and teams will not have much success running to him.

The pick that may cast a shadow over all of these is their selection of QB Josh Johnson late in the third. Now I believe there's a lot to Johnson that mainstream fans of the Draft haven't seen. I think he's a veritable boom-or-bust where his ceiling is silly ridiculous and his downside is real and damning. But I love the gamble pestilenceaf23 took on Johnson, I would have done the same thing -- and I would have done it about 10 slots sooner.

**The Franchise** · 03-27-2008, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Jacksonville Jaguars (pestilenceaf23) - B

The Jags made safe and smart picks at all three of their spots, but none of them blew me away in value. It was a responsible Draft for a team that believes they are but a few pieces away from knocking off the Colts and Patriots for the AFC crown. Jackson was as solid a selection late in the first as any they could have made, and it filled a position of need.

S DeJuan Morgan could be considered a slight reach for the Jags in the second, but their secondary was one cornerstone away from being complete, and Morgan might be the final brick in the wall (mixed metaphor, but whatever). Red Bryant in the 3rd is probably as good a pick as they made in this Draft, replacing Stroud with a Bryant who's perfect to play 2-tech in the Jags' 4-3. Bryant should start right away and teams will not have much success running to him.

You forgot Josh Johnson.

Direckshun · 03-27-2008, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefscafan

fair enough direckshun

I have two boom or bust picks maybe 3 if you add dre moore

the two are

Brohm and JOhnson

brohm maybe a system qb but then again what if he's one of these qbs who comes out of no where . Feeling by the panthers was he would never make it back to us . Chicago, Miami , or the falcons would have taken him before he got back to us. It was too much of a risk. If there is a player you like that you feel can lead your team and make them better sometimes you have to take them even if it is a reach quote in quote.

Chris Johnson hmm I know we've gone back and forth on this. Yes he's like Deangelo Williams so I should of got the bruiser RB and where is he gonna play.

I say direckshun 4.24 speed. I'm falling in love with combine numbers right? That is what I thought till I saw video on this kid. ONe other guy when I watched him in college did I say damn he has a fifth gear that no one can touch him. That guy was L.T. at TCU who played against about the same caliber talent.

Besides I didn't say he was my starter I said he is my KR/PR if he becomes a star even better. Too good of value direckshun he never should have gotten to me in the third. I feel I stole three players and reached for one not bad in the scheme of things.

Eh, a 3rd on a KR/PR doesn't seem worth it to me.

Honestly, I feel like you only reached once, but you only scored on value once with Mayo. Moore and Johnson were taken at about the right places, I'd say.

Direckshun · 03-27-2008, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

You forgot Josh Johnson.

D'oh! And I really liked that pick, too. I'm going to go up and edit.

chiefscafan · 03-27-2008, 11:56 AM

fair enough direckshun

most mocks have moore going alot earlier than that

Direckshun · 03-27-2008, 12:17 PM

Cleveland Browns - I

The Browns had no picks in the first three rounds. They've given them up for Brady Quinn, Corey Williams, and Shaun Rodgers. Worth it? We'll see.

Indianapolis Colts (BTAU) - D+

It's easy to forget about the Colts this Draft season, as they missed out on the first round and whenever they pick, it's always quietly scooping up the golden opportunities that the stupid asses above them passed on. That trend seems to have broken in this particular mock, as they reach twice consecutively.

Now, Trevor Laws is forgivable, as he seems to be a solid Cover 2 DT. It's not that much of a reach and Laws has a lot of upside. But the reach at the bottom of the 3rd for OLB Geno Hayes was a much bigger reach and I'm not even sure it was a reach for need. He's undersized and fairly fast, so he fits the bill. BTAU treated his picks like casting calls than draft selections, and the Colts may regret that by the end of the year.

Cincinnati Bengals (Spicy McHaggis) - A-

The Bengals are just a broken organization. I don't know where they're headed or what they're doing, but that's what happens when your team president has been tenured for what seems like an eternity. Things just stop making sense. But this Draft should do the Bengals well, and they should call up McHaggis for personnel decisions. Keith Rivers was an excellent selection to start their Draft, as they got so thin at linebacker last year they moved DEs out-of-position to fill in. Rivers fills one canyon-sized hole, but they've got many others.

Well, with their 2nd, the Bengals scoop up TE Martellus Bennett, as promising and athletic a TE as there is in this year's Draft. This gives Carson Palmer yet another great option downfield and Bennett's versatility enables them to run an exponentially larger combination of routes. And though selecting Schuening in the 3rd might have been premature, it's still a gigantic hole of need that will be aptly filled by a capable rookie. I hate to say there's hope for these guys, but with this Draft, it's possible to believe.

St. Louis Rams (BigRedChief) - B+

The Rams passing on Long and Long for Dorsey in the first round is unlikely, but it's a fascinating move. Do they keep Carriker inside and have him and Dorsey destroy opposing OLs? Will they move Carriker back outside and finally have a young, unstoppable pass rusher? Variations of both? Nonetheless, Dorsey does seem like a poor choice this early with the injury concerns, but if he's healthy you can't argue with it.

Sam Baker is a safe choice for poor Marc Bulger, who got the living hell knocked out of him when Pace went down last year. Baker will play like a seasoned pro and will be one of those guys to sniff the Pro Bowl every year he plays. He's a great pick and this allows Bulger to breathe a little easier. Caldwell is a fair pick for the Rams. Bruce is ageless, but he's slowing down and Holt isn't getting younger either. Caldwell brings some athleticism but he has room to grow -- with two great mentors to help.

**The Franchise** · 03-27-2008, 12:20 PM

Bruce is a 49er now.

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OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2051115	The following trades have effected the draft order: Corey Williams to Cleveland for a R2 pick. Shaun Rogers to Cleveland for a R3 pick. Kris Jenkins to the Jets for a R3 pick. Marcus Stroud to the Bills for a R3 pick. Redskins to Broncos. The Washington Redskins traded their fourth-round selection in 2008, and their third-round selection in 2007 (used to select Ryan Harris) to the Denver Broncos as part of a three-team trade in which Washington received T.J. Duckett and Atlanta received Ashley Lelie. (This was the result of a formula which could have had Denver and Washington swapping 2007 first-round selections.) Saints to Jets. The Saints traded their fourth-round selection in 2008 to the Jets, for Jonathan Vilma. Jets to Panthers. The New York Jets traded their third-round and fifth-round selections to the Carolina Panthers in a deal that sent Kris Jenkins to New York. Dolphins to Chiefs. Miami (conditionally) traded its fifth-round selection in 2008 to the Kansas City Chiefs in exchange for Trent Green. The selection would have become a fourth-round selection if Green had met certain performance criteria. Bears to Bills. Chicago (conditionally) traded their fifth-round selection in 2008 to Buffalo in exchange for Darwin Walker. The round of the selection may change, depending on Walker's playing time. Panthers to Bears. The Carolina Panthers traded their fifth-round selection in 2008 to Chicago in exchange for Chris Harris. Raiders to Broncos. Oakland (conditionally) traded their fifth-round selection in 2008 to Denver in exchange for Gerard Warren. Bills to Jaguars The Buffalo Bills traded a 3rd and 5th round selection to the Jacksonville Jaguars in return for DT Marcus Stroud. Seahawks to Browns. The Seattle Seahawks traded their sixth-round selection in 2008 to Cleveland in exchange for Charlie Frye.[24] Packers to Giants. The Green Bay Packers traded their sixth-round selection in 2008 to the New York Giants in exchange for running back Ryan Grant. Broncos to Rams. Denver traded their sixth-round selection in 2008 to the St. Louis Rams for defensive tackle Jimmy Kennedy.[26] The trade occurred after the Broncos had tried to trade the same pick to Miami for defensive tackle Dan Wilkinson; that trade was voided. Browns to Eagles. Cleveland traded their sixth-round selection in 2008 to Philadelphia for center Hank Fraley. The trade was conditional on games started by Fraley, and could have fallen to a seventh-round pick, but Fraley started all 16 games. Cowboys/Dolphins swap. The teams swapped their sixth-round selections in a trade involving Jason Ferguson. Jaguars to Vikings. Jacksonville traded their sixth-round selection for Troy Williamson. Texans to Broncos. Houston traded their sixth-round pick for Chris Myers. Steelers to Falcons. The Pittsburgh Steelers traded their seventh-round selection in 2008 to Atlanta for kick/punt returner Allen Rossum. Seahawks to Eagles. Seattle traded their seventh-round selection in 2008 to Philadelphia for fullback Josh Parry. Eagles to Bills. Philadelphia traded their seventh-round selection in 2008, and defensive tackle Darwin Walker, to Buffalo for linebacker Takeo Spikes and quarterback Kelly Holcomb. Rams to Vikings. St. Louis traded their seventh-round selection in 2008 to Minnesota for offensive tackle Adam Goldberg. Giants to Chiefs. The New York Giants traded their seventh-round selection in 2008 to Kansas City for kicker Lawrence Tynes. Vikings to Jets. Minnesota traded their seventh-round pick in 2008 to the Jets in exchange for Brooks Bollinger. Bengals to Rams. Cincinnati traded their seventh-round pick in 2008 to St. Louis in exchange for Ryan Fitzpatrick. When making your selection, please list the player's name, his position and the school he played for. Not everyone has the same level of knowledge about prospects, and this information will help people who want to research these players further. Also, if you would, please tell us your reasoning for selecting the player you did. It doesn't have to be a novel, just give some insight on your thought process. Let's have some fun. Round 1 1 DOLPHINS (Hamas Jenkins) - Vernon Gholston, DE, Ohio State 2 RAMS (BigChiefFan) - Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU 3 FALCONS (jiveturkey) - Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College 4 RAIDERS (ChiefsCountry) - Chris Long, DE, Virginia 5 CHIEFS (Mecca) - Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC 6 JETS (PHOG) - Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas 7 PATRIOTS (MarcoPolo) - Jake Long, OT, Michigan 8 RAVENS (Mr Flopnuts) - Leodis McKelvin, CB, Troy 9 BENGALS (Spicy McHaggis) - Keith Rivers, LB, USC 10 SAINTS (OnTheWarpath58) - Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB, Tenn. St. 11 BILLS (Direckshun) - Mike Jenkins, CB, South Florida 12 BRONCOS (ct) - Kenny Phillips, S, Miami 13 PANTHERS (Chiefscafan) - Brian Brohm, QB, Louisville 14 BEARS (Sanka) - Malcolm Kelly, WR, Oklahoma 15 LIONS (BigRock) - Ryan Clady, OT, Boise State 16 CARDINALS (Archie Bunker) - Rashard Mendenhall, RB,Illinois 17 VIKINGS (Zeke Ziggle) - Phillip Merling, DE, Clemson 18 TEXANS (sfeihc) - Derrick Harvey, DE, Florida 19 EAGLES (Sandy Limpdick) - Limas Sweed, WR, Texas 20 BUCCANEERS (Direckshun) - Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona 21 REDSKINS (Sully) - Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College 22 COWBOYS (htismaqe) - Chris Williams, OT, Vanderbilt 23 STEELERS (milkman) - Brandon Albert, G, Virgina 24 TITANS (JBucc) - Jonathan Stewart, RB, Oregon 25 SEAHAWKS (DaKCManAP) - DeSean Jackson, WR, California 26 JAGUARS (pestilenceaf23) - Lawrence Jackson, DE, USC 27 CHARGERS (noa) - Jeff Otah, OT, Pittsburgh 28 COWBOYS (htismaqe) - Aqib Talib, CB, Kansas 29 49ERS (bsp4444) - James Hardy, WR, Indiana 30 PACKERS (crazycoffey) - Reggie Smith, DB, Oklahoma 31 GIANTS (bdeg) - Dan Connor, LB, Penn State Round 2 32 DOLPHINS (Hamas Jenkins) - Carl Nicks, OT, Nebraska 33 RAMS (BigChiefFan) - Sam Baker, OT, USC 34 RAIDERS (ChiefsCountry) - Kentwan Balmer, DT North Carolina 35 CHIEFS (Mecca) - Quentin Groves, DE, Auburn 36 JETS (PHOG) - Devin Thomas, WR, Michigan St. 37 FALCONS (jiveturkey) - Patrick Lee, CB, Auburn 38 RAVENS (Mr Flopnuts) - Joe Flacco, QB, Delaware 39 49ERS (bsp4444) - Calais Campbell, DE, Miami 40 SAINTS (OnTheWarpath58) - Pat Sims, DT, Auburn 41 BILLS (sfeihc) - Fred Davis, TE, USC 42 BRONCOS (ct) - Anthony Collins. OT, Kansas 43 PANTHERS (Chiefscafan) - Jerod Mayo, ILB, Tennesee 44 BEARS (Sanka) - Felix Jones, RB, Arkansas 45 LIONS (BigRock) - Brandon Flowers, CB, Virginia Tech 46 BENGALS (Spicy McHaggis) Martellus Bennett, TE, Texas A&M 47 VIKINGS (Zeke Ziggle) - John Carlson, TE, Notre Dame 48 FALCONS (jiveturkey) - Frank Okam, DT, Texas 49 EAGLES (Sandy Limpdick) - Curtis Lofton, MLB, Oklahoma 50 CARDINALS (Archie Bunker) - Tracy Porter, CB, Indiana 51 REDSKINS (Sully) - Jordy Nelson, WR, Kansas State 52 BUCCANEERS (Direckshun) - Early Doucet, WR, LSU 53 STEELERS (milkman) - Chilo Rachal, OG, USC 54 TITANS (JBucc) - Mario Manningham, WR, Michigan 55 SEAHAWKS (DaKCManAP) - Brad Cottam, TE, Tennessee 56 PACKERS (crazycoffey) - Ali Highsmigh, OLB, LSU 57 DOLPHINS (Hamas Jenkins) - Cliff Avril, OLB, Purdue 58 JAGUARS (pestilenceaf23) - DaJuan Morgan, S, NC State 59 COLTS (BTAU) - Trevor Laws, DT, Notre Dame 60 PACKERS (crazycoffey) - Chad Henne, QB, Michigan 61 COWBOYS (htismaqe) - Jamaal Charles, RB, Texas 62 PATRIOTS (MarcoPolo) - Xavier Adibi, LB, Virginia Tech 63 GIANTS (bdeg) - Erin Henderson, LB, Maryland Round 3 64 DOLPHINS (Hamas Jenkins) - Thomas DeCoud, SS, California 65 RAMS (BigChiefFan) - Andre Caldwell, WR, Florida 66 CHIEFS (Mecca) - Justin King, CB, Penn State 67 PANTHERS (Chiefscafan) - Chris Johnson, RB, East Carolina 68 FALCONS (jiveturkey) - Heath Benedict, OT, Newberry 69 PATRIOTS (MarcoPolo) - Shawn Crable, OLB, Michigan 70 49ERS (bsp4444) - Tavares Gooden, LB, Miami 71 BILLS (OnTheWarpath58) - Earl Bennett, WR, Vanderbilt 72 JAGUARS (pestilenceaf23) - Red Bryant, DT, Texas A&M 73 VIKINGS (Zeke Ziggle) - Andre Woodson, QB, Kentucky 74 PANTHERS (Chiefscafan) - Dre Moore, DT, Maryland 75 BEARS (Sanka) - Quintin Demps, S, UTEP 76 LIONS (BigRock) - Philip Wheeler, LB, Georgia Tech 77 BENGALS (Spicy McHaggis) - Roy Schuening, OG, Oregon State 78 SAINTS (OnTheWarpath58) - Dustin Keller, TE, Purdue 79 TEXANS (sfeihc) - Terrell Thomas, CB, USC 80 EAGLES (Sandy Limpdick) - Eric Young, OL, Tennessee 81 CARDINALS (Archie Bunker) - Drew Radovich, OG, USC 82 VIKINGS (Zeke Ziggle) - Marcus Harrison, DT, Arkansas 83 BUCCANEERS (Direckshun) - Tony Hills, OT, Texas 84 REDSKINS (Sully) - Josh Barrett, S, Arizona State 85 TITANS (JBucc) - Chris Ellis, DE, Virginia Tech 86 SEAHAWKS (DaKCManAP) - Ahtyba Rubin, DT, Iowa State 87 LIONS (BigRock) - Ray Rice, RB, Rutgers 88 STEELERS (milkman) - Charles Godfrey, CB, Iowa 89 JAGUARS (pestilenceaf23) - Josh Johnson, QB, San Diego 90 BEARS (Sanka) - Duane Brown, OT, Virginia Tech 91 PACKERS (crazycoffey) - Oneil Cousins, OT, UTEP 92 COWBOYS (htismaqe) - Eddie Royal, WR, Virginia Tech 93 COLTS (BTAU) - Geno Hayes, LB, Florida State 94 GIANTS (bdeg) - Tyrell Johnson, S, Arkansas St. 95 PATRIOTS (MarcoPolo) - Chevis Jackson, CB, LSU Round 4 96 DOLPHINS (Hamas Jenkins) - Jonathan Goff. MLB, Vanderbilit 97 RAMS (BigChiefFan) - Mike Pollack, C, Arizona 98 JETS (milkman) - Donnie Avery. WR. Houston 99 FALCONS (DaKCManAP) - Beau Bell, MLB, UNLV 100 RAIDERS (ChiefsCountry) - Lavelle Hawkins, WR California 101 CHIEFS (Mecca) -Jerome Simpson, WR, Coastal Carolina 102 RAVENS (Mr Flopnuts) - John Grecco, OT, Toledo 103 49ERS (Chiefscafan) - Adarius Bowman, WR, Ok St. 104 BRONCOS (sfeihc) - DeMario Pressley, DT, NC State 105 PANTHERS (Chiefscafan) - Craig Steltz, S, LSU 106 BEARS (Sanka) - Eric Ainge, QB, Tennessee 107 LIONS (Archie Bunker) - Jermichael Finley, TE, Texas 108 BENGALS (Spicy McHaggis) - Marcus Howard, LB, Georgia 109 JETS (milkman) - Trae Williams, CB, South Florida 110 BILLS (ChiefsCountry) - Steve Justice, C, Wake Forest 111 EAGLES (Direckshun) - Wesley Woodyard, LB, Kentucky 112 CARDINALS (Archie Bunker) - Darrell Robertson, LB, Georgia Tech 113 VIKINGS (Hamas Jenkins) - Tyvon Brach, CB, Connecticut 114 TEXANS (sfeihc) - Ezra Butler, LB, Nevada 115 BRONCOS (sfeihc) - Kevin Smith, RB, Central Florida 116 BUCCANEERS (Direckshun) - Owen Schmitt, FB, West Virginia 117 SEAHAWKS (DaKCManAP) - Mike McGlynn, OG, Pittsburgh 118 BROWNS (Hamas Jenkins) - Matt Forte, RB, Tulane 119 STEELERS (milkman) - Simeon Castille, CB, Alabama 120 TITANS (Sanka) - Bruce Davis, LB, UCLA 121 JAGUARS (pestilenceaf23) - Antwuan Molden, CB, Eastern Kentucky 122 COWBOYS (OnTheWarpath58) - Jeremy Zuttah, OG, Rutgers 123 COLTS (OnTheWarpath58) - Jason Jones, DE, Eastern Michigan 124 PACKERS (pestilenceaf23) - Martin Rucker, TE, Missouri 125 PATRIOTS (Mr Flopnuts) - Steve Slaton, RB, West Virginia 126 GIANTS (bdeg) - Harry Douglas, WR, Louisville Round 5 127 CHIEFS (Mecca) - Tashard Choice, RB, Georgia Tech 128 RAMS (BigChiefFan) - Kirk Barton, OT, Ohio State 129 FALCONS (DaKCManAP) - Marcus Monk, WR, Arkansas 130 BRONCOS (sfeihc) - Vince Hall, LB, Virginia Tech 131 CHIEFS (Mecca) - Barry Richardson, OT, Clemson 132 PANTHERS (Chiefscafan) - Trevor Scott, DE, Buffalo 133 49ERS (Chiefscafan) FORFEITED DUE TO TAMPERING 134 BEARS (Sanka) - Andre Fluellen, DT, Florida State 135 JAGUARS (pestilenceaf23) - John Sullivan, C, Notre Dame 136 LIONS (Archie Bunker) - Nick Hayden, DT, Wisconsin 137 BENGALS (Spicy McHaggis) - Kendall Langford, DE, Hampton 138 SAINTS (OnTheWarpath58) - Dexter Jackson, WR, Appalachian State 139 JAGUARS (pestilenceaf23) - Robert Felton, OG, Arkansas 140 BRONCOS (sfeihc) - Adrian Arrington, WR, Michigan 141 CARDINALS (Archie Bunker) - William Franklin, WR, Missouri 142 VIKINGS (Hamas Jenkins) - Kerry Brown, OG Appalachian State 143 TEXANS (sfeihc) - Stanford Kegler, LB, Purdue 144 EAGLES (Direckshun) - Mike Hart, RB, Michigan 145 BUCCANEERS (Direckshun) - Dorien Bryant, WR, Purdue 146 REDSKINS (BigChiefFan) - Gary Guyton, LB, Georgia Tech 147 EAGLES (Direckshun) - Terrence Wheatley, CB, Colorado 148 STEELERS (milkman) - Keenan Burton, WR, Kentucky 149 TITANS (Sanka) - Jeremy Thompson, DE, Wake Forest 150 SEAHAWKS (DaKCManAP) - Peyton Hillis, FB, Arkansas 151 JAGUARS (pestilenceaf23) - Orlando Scandrick, CB, Boise State 152 CHARGERS (Mecca) - Jamar Adams, SS, Michigan 153 COLTS (OnTheWarpath58) - John David Booty, QB, USC 154 PACKERS (pestilenceaf23) - Jack Ikegwuonu, CB, Wisconsin 155 COWBOYS (OnTheWarpath58) - Dwight Lowery, CB, San Jose State 156 PATRIOTS (Mr Flopnuts) - Paul Hubbard, WR, Wisconsin 157 GIANTS (bdeg) - Mike Gibson, OG, California Round 6 158 COWBOYS (OnTheWarpath58) - Tom Zbikowski, S, Notre Dame 159 RAMS (BigChiefFan) - Michael Grant, CB/S, Arkansas 160 RAIDERS (ChiefsCountry) - Geoff Schwartz, T Oregon 161 CHIEFS (Mecca) - Craig Stevens, TE, Cal 162 JETS (milkman) - Kevin O'Connell, QB, San Diego St. 163 FALCONS (DaKCManAP) - Jack Williams, CB Kent State 164 RAVENS (Mr Flopnuts) - DJ Hall, WR, Alabama 165 49ERS (Chiefscafan) - Colt Brennan, QB, Hawaii 166 BEARS (Sanka) - Jordan Dizon, LB, Colorado 167 LIONS (Archie Bunker) - Marcus Griffin, S, Texas 168 BENGALS (Spicy McHaggis) -Jacob Hester, FB, LSU 169 SAINTS (OnTheWarpath58) - Kory Lichtensteiger, C, Bowling Green 170 BILLS (ChiefsCountry) - Spencer Lawson, LB, Arizona 171 RAMS (BigChiefFan) - J Lemen, LB, Illinois 172 PANTHERS (Chiefscafan) - Chase Ortiz, DE/LB, TCU 173 VIKINGS (Hamas Jenkins)- Brian Johnston, DE, Gardner Webb 174 BRONCOS (sfeihc) - Taylor Mehlhaff, K, Wisconsin 175 EAGLES (Direckshun) - Johnny Dingle. DE, West Virginia 176 CARDINALS (Archie Bunker) - David Roach, FS, TCU 177 REDSKINS (BigChiefFan) - Chad Rinehart, OG, Northern Iowa 178 CHIEFS (Mecca) - Davone Bess, WR, Hawaii 179 STEELERS (milkman) - Chauncey Washington, USC 180 TITANS (Sanka) - Darnell Terrell, CB, Missouri 181 BROWNS (Hamas Jenkins) - Cody Wallace, C Texas A&M 182 EAGLES (Direckshun) - Ken Iwebema, DE, Iowa 183 VIKINGS (Hamas Jenkins) - King Dunlap, OT, Auburn 184 CHARGERS (Mecca) - Cory Boyd, RB, South Carolina 185 GIANTS (bdeg) - DeJuan Tribble, CB, Boston College 186 DOLPHINS (Hamas Jenkins) - Kellen Davis, TE, Michigan State 187 COLTS (OnTheWarpath58) - Kevin Robinson, WR, Utah State 188 PATRIOTS (Mr Flopnuts) - Lamar Myles, LB, Louisville 189 GIANTS (bdeg) - Jacob Tamme, TE, Kentucky Round 7 190 DOLPHINS (Hamas Jenkins) - Jalen Parmele, RB, Toledo 191 VIKINGS (Hamas Jenkins) - Arman Shields, WR Richmond 192 CHIEFS (Mecca) - Brandon Keith, OT/OG, Northern Iowa 193 JETS (milkman) - DJ Wolfe, SS, Oklahoma 194 FALCONS (DaKCManAP) - Chris Harrington, DE, Texas A&M 195 RAIDERS (ChiefsCountry) -Dennis Dixon, QB Oregon 196 49ERS (Chiefscafan) - Jayson Foster, WR, Georgia Southern 197 RAVENS (Mr Flopnuts) - Justin Forsett, RB, California 198 LIONS (Archie Bunker) - Ryan O'Hara, QB, Central Oklahoma 199 RAMS (BigChiefFan)- Steve Octavian, LB, Nebraska 200 SAINTS (OnTheWarpath58) - Jamie Silva, S, Boston College 201 BILLS (ChiefsCountry) - Bryan Kehl, LB BYU 202 BRONCOS (sfeihc) - Frank Morton, DT, Tulane 203 PANTHERS (Chiefscafan) - Demitrious Bell, OT, Northwestern State 204 BEARS (Sanka) - Anthony Aldridge, WR, Houston 205 TEXANS (sfeihc) - Caleb Campbell, s, Army 206 BILLS (ChiefsCountry) - Donald Thomas, G Connecticut 207 CARDINALS (Archie Bunker) - Tommy Blake, OLB, TCU 208 JETS (milkman) - Titus Brown, DE, Miss State 209 BUCCANEERS (Direckshun) - Letroy Guion, DT, FSU 210 REDSKINS (BigChiefFan) - Keilen Dykes, DT, West Virginia 211 TITANS (Sanka) - Darius Reynaud, WR, West Virginia 212 BILLS (ChiefsCountry) - Xavier Omon, RB Northwest Missouri State 213 BROWNS (Hamas Jenkins) - Lance Legget, WR, Miami 214 FALCONS (DaKCManAP) - Breno Giocomeni, OT, Louisville 215 JAGUARS (pestilenceaf23) - Allen Patrick, RB, Oklahoma 216 CHARGERS (Mecca) - Zack Bowman, CB, Nebraska 217 COWBOYS (OnTheWarpath58) -Matt Flynn, QB, LSU 218 COLTS (OnTheWarpath58) - Chris McDuffie, OG, Clemson 219 PACKERS (pestilenceaf23) - Carlton Powell, DT, Virginia Tech 220 PATRIOTS (Mr Flopnuts) - Marcel Reece WR Washington 221 CHIEFS (Mecca) - Glenn Sharpe, CB, Miami Last edited by Mecca; 04-24-2008 at 06:46 PM..
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03-27-2008, 10:20 AM	#902
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	Tennessee Titans (JBucc) - C+ The Titans' two jobs this offseason are to lock up Haynesworth and to finally surround poor Vince Young with some semblence of talent, after ripping it mostly away last year. Their first pick was a home run, as long as Jon Stewart stays healthy. He can develop very quickly into a stud RB that can punish you if you key in too much on Young -- it helps to finally have a RB who's a better rusher than your QB. JBucc keeps trying to bail out Young by drafting WR in the second round, which at that point was a reach. Manningham was arguably the best WR left on the board at that time (although I'd say Bennett was), but it wasn't worth the 2nd rounder, not when they need help virtually everywhere else as well. But you can't give Young nothing, so I understand it. Chris Ellis was a fair pick in the third, but like I said, I'm lukewarm on DEs this Draft. Miami Dolphins ('Hamas' Jenkins) - A- Well it's impossible to argue with having the #1 pick in every round. The Dolphins had the best selection spot in the Draft, and appropriately took advantage of it. So much has been said about Gholston, but he is a beast in the making. Carl Nicks is basically a first-rounder anyway, and has the upside to man down the Dolphins LT for a decade. If he continues to progress, he's a Pro Bowler. The Dolphins then treat themselves, perhaps for years, with Avril at the other OLB position to give themselves a potentially All Pro one-two punch with Gholston. Avril might have been a slight reach but Gholston makes this pick worth it. I did not like DeCoud at the top of the third, and I believe that was a reach when the Dolphins need sooooo many positions, but DeCoud is the exception in an otherwise great Draft. New Orleans Saints (OnTheWarpath58) - B The Saints are one of those polka-dotted teams in the need department it seems; in the several places they have needs, they have gigantic gaping needs. Most of them, unsurprisingly, are on defense. This is a defense that needs to get a lot tougher, and OTW did a Grade A job in the first round by selecting Rodgers-Cromartie, without a doubt in my mind the best CB in this Draft. Rodgers has the gifts to become a shutdown, and he's a lot tougher than people give him credit for. DT Pat Sims is, despite his gigantic size, one of those DTs that's capable of playing anywhere from 0-tech to 3-tech if need be, but he's going to specialize as NT in the NFL. Thing is, I just don't think a beefy NT warrants a high 2nd rounder in the 4-3, but Sims' abilities somewhat reduces the reach. TE Dustin Keller, a pure receiving TE, is just what the doctor ordered for the offense, and was a good pick in the 3rd.
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03-27-2008, 10:34 AM	#903
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03-27-2008, 10:40 AM	#904
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	New York Giants (bdeg) - B+ It's been noted that something's nutty about this Draft, as most teams have OL way overvalued and LB way undervalued. The Giants apparently took advantage of this and plucked two gifted LBs at great value. Dan Connor is a locker room leader at LB, and sports enough versatility that he can cover all LB positions. He's the forceful presense you need in the middle of the field and next to Pierce he should flourish. Great pick at the bottom of the 1st. Erin Henderson is the best OLB in this Draft outside of Keith Rivers, and props to bdeg for taking a second linebacker with his second pick (a fairly unusual move). Henderson would have been good value early in the 2nd, and the Giants have a fantastic LB corps. S Tyrell Johnson is the "blah" pick here, a slight reach, especially since Steltz has a bright future at the same exact position. San Diego Chargers (noa) - B- The Chargers didn't have a lot to work with in the first three rounds, seeing how they only had a first. They get pretty darn good value near the bottom of the first in Otah, who has all the tools you need to be a solid RT. The position seems to be the only real hole in the Charger's OL armor, and Otah fills a need while still being great value. Medium-ish grade, though, as only having one pick is... yeah. Philadelphia Eagles (Sandy Limpdick) - D+ I've already canned on Limpdick's efforts here, so let me basically put a lid on all of it. I believe that Sweed, once again, is the second coming of Dwayne Jarrett and was an embarrassing reach for need in the first. MLB Curtis Lofton was a curious choice in the second (even though it wasn't his) as the LB corps in Philly is pretty damn solid already. But you can hardly argue with Lofton's value in the middle of the second, as he has the potential to become something special in the NFL. And then there's the reach for Eric Young in the third, who projects merely as an interior lineman in the NFL. I've never thought Young had the ability to play tackle, but if I'm incredibly surprised and he can all-of-a-sudden fill in at LT, I'll be a fool of epic proportions. As it stands now, Young will ride the bench for at least a year and who knows how he'll turn out.
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03-27-2008, 10:49 AM	#905
chiefscafan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manhattan beach, CA Casino cash: $9688215	OK I have a feeling my draft will have a bad grade but value wise I think I did good. but i'm currious what's my grade direckshun.
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03-27-2008, 11:00 AM	#906
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	Baltimore Ravens (Mr Flopnuts) - D+ I've already had words with Flopnuts in this thread about my bad feelings about his Draft. It starts mostly with drafting Flacco in the second round, when the heart and soul of the Ravens' defense (Ray Lewis) may be in his last season in purple. You need a lot of presense to fill in eventually, and I felt Lofton was picture perfect as Lewis' heir. Nonetheless, the Ravens opted for Flacco, a 6'6" statuesque project with inflated numbers. I was equally disappointed in his first round, as I am nowhere near as high on Leodis McKelvin as the rest of the planet is. I believe McKelvin has the gifts to become truly special in this league, the transition from Troy to the NFL is too perilous to warrant the Top 10. McKelvin is too unproven for me and now he gets to have Lewis and Reed jump down his throat every time they get to the sidelines. Kansas City Chiefs (Mecca) - B+ Considering all the hype that's surrounded this Draft for the Chiefs, Mecca took a fairly unconventional route and in my opinion, it'll pay dividends for the Chiefs. This is, first and foremost, a Herm Edwards team, and you need to have a defense that can carry the offense, whether it needs to or not. The Ellis pick is genius for the obvious reasons, but it's the Groves pick that'll scratch Chiefs fans the wrong way. I like it, as Herm's philosophy dictates that he'd rather wear out one good player than rotate that player with a mediocre player. Throwing Groves in means that Herm doesn't have to play Allen and Hali 50 snaps a game. There's a reason Allen doesn't get sacks in the second half... CB Justin King has a lot of upside if good coaching can siphon off his boneheaded inconsistency. I don't believe he was a reach, but I don't believe he was the right pick, either. New York Jets (PHOG) - B+ The Jets only have two picks in this Draft, and PHOG made the safe, smart picks. Darren McFadden is the perfect ying to Thomas Jones' underwhelming yang, and will take a lot of pressure off whoever it is that's unfortunate enough to line up under center. He'll also have the newly acquired Tony Richardson and Alan Faneca to block for him, so props to PHOG for realizing that this is a team in need of a home run hitter at RB. Devin Thomas was a good pick at the top of the second. There are other choices that I thought they could have benefitted from, but this pick does more to zazz up their lackluster offsense. Thomas isn't the kind of rookie that will make an immediately, Bowe-like splash, but he could come around in a year or maybe late this season.
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03-27-2008, 11:18 AM	#907
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	Carolina Panthers (chiefscafan) - C+ I've gone back and forth on Brohm, but that internal debate has always been whether he was worth a 1st or a 2nd rounder. The thought never entered my mind that he was worth #13 overall, though. The Panthers reached hardcore for need here, as they are as QB-starved as the Falcons are. But they saw a guy that could be That Guy and leapt for him, unwise as it may have been. There are far too many questions I have about Brohm to agree. It gets better in the second round. ILB Jarod Mayo is one of the most physically gifted defenders in this Draft, and was great value for Carolina in the middle of the 2nd, filling a huge need. I was less impressed with RB Chris Johnson early in the 3rd. It's not that I believe it was a reach, it's that there doesn't seem to be anything about him that demand the Panthers take him when they have the same player. Carolina sees something in him that I don't. DT Dre Moore was fair value in the middle of the 3rd, as the Panthers lost Jenkins and pride themselves on DTs. Denver Broncos (ct) - F The Broncos really didn't make the most of their measly two picks, much to my Chiefs homerism's delight. Kenny Phillips is a sturdy S prospect but he doesn't leap off the page in a way that a Top 15 pick should, especially when Clady was still on the page. Perhaps all the anti-Clady hype got to ct, I'm not sure, but Phillips barely warrants a 1st rounder at all, much less one that freakishly premature. The second pick isn't much better, but it's not nearly as bad. OT Anthony Collins at least sports enough upside to eventually warrant a high pick in the 2nd, but the moon-sized holes in his run-blocking game need to be repaired and their existence should have scared Denver away from Collins with so many needs on defense. Arizona Cardinals (Archie Bunker) - B+ I'm almost tempted to give the Cardinals an A without even examining their 2nd and 3rd. They just acquired a faster, younger Larry Johnson with their first round pick, a large handful of picks after he should have been taken. Rashard Mendenhall will make NFL linebackers sore for several years. 'Zona may finally have a run game that can properly compliment its air attack. Tracy Porter made me cringe a few days ago with his Wonderlic, but he's Top 10 talent at his position. Here's my tagline (it's trademarked, asshole): a rock may not be smart, but it still hurts when it hits you in the head. You're welcome, ChiefsPlanet. He's great value for the Cards in the 2nd. Radovich is really overrated, methinks, and doesn't have much of a ceiling to exploit. I think he was a gigantic reach in the third, but it doesn't negate the two killer deals in the first two rounds.
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03-27-2008, 11:32 AM	#908
chiefscafan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manhattan beach, CA Casino cash: $9688215	fair enough direckshun I have two boom or bust picks maybe 3 if you add dre moore the two are Brohm and JOhnson brohm maybe a system qb but then again what if he's one of these qbs who comes out of no where . Feeling by the panthers was he would never make it back to us . Chicago, Miami , or the falcons would have taken him before he got back to us. It was too much of a risk. If there is a player you like that you feel can lead your team and make them better sometimes you have to take them even if it is a reach quote in quote. Chris Johnson hmm I know we've gone back and forth on this. Yes he's like Deangelo Williams so I should of got the bruiser RB and where is he gonna play. I say direckshun 4.24 speed. I'm falling in love with combine numbers right? That is what I thought till I saw video on this kid. ONe other guy when I watched him in college did I say damn he has a fifth gear that no one can touch him. That guy was L.T. at TCU who played against about the same caliber talent. Besides I didn't say he was my starter I said he is my KR/PR if he becomes a star even better. Too good of value direckshun he never should have gotten to me in the third. I feel I stole three players and reached for one not bad in the scheme of things.
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03-27-2008, 11:47 AM	#909
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	Green Bay Packers (crazycoffey) - D Well, after the Pack have largely rebuilt themselves with stellar drafting over the past few years, they slam into a massive speedbump here. I wasn't crazy about any of the Pack's four selections over the course of this Draft, and I don't even know if more than one of them will see any time in this league. Reggie Smith is the only exception, as the Pack need help in their secondary and Smith can man several positions. Henne at the bottom of the second wasn't that horrendous a pick, as depth was needed. But this soon? And Henne? Hmmm... Highsmith was a mind-boggling pick, taken at least a couple rounds higher than he should have, especially when there are better OLBs with far more promise available -- this group of teams have undervalued OLB and there were better guys available. And Cousins was simply not worth the 3rd rounder. He barely plays OT and is going to need a complete makeover to play in the NFL, and who the hell knows how that'll turn out. The Pack set themselves back with this Draft, but it's possible that good comes out of it. Oakland Raiders (ChiefsCountry) - A- In the Top 10 picks, probably the only thing that rivaled my surprise that Jake Long dropped to the Patriots was Chris Long falling to the Raiders. I sincerely doubt three teams pass on this sure thing, and I'm convinced Long will actually go #1 overall. Nonetheless, ChiefsCountry made the obvious pick at #4 to stop the bleeding, and the Raiders get unbelievable value there. Literally unbelievable, as in I'm incapable of believing it. DT Kentwan Balmer was an equally genius pick in the 2nd round. Balmer is a 1st round quality 3-tech, and as good as he is now, he's got a very high ceiling. They need offensive tackle help but they Balmer is not only BPA, he's also filling in a huge need for the Raiders. Fortunately, they've traded this pick away so this can't happen. They've traded their 3rd away too -- Oakland should just replace Al Davis with ChiefsCountry. Jacksonville Jaguars (pestilenceaf23) - B+ The Jags made safe and smart picks at their first three spots, but none of them blew me away in value. It was a responsible Draft for a team that believes they are but a few pieces away from knocking off the Colts and Patriots for the AFC crown. Jackson was as solid a selection late in the first as any they could have made, and it filled a position of need. S DeJuan Morgan could be considered a slight reach for the Jags in the second, but their secondary was one cornerstone away from being complete, and Morgan might be the final brick in the wall (mixed metaphor, but whatever). Red Bryant in the 3rd is probably as good a pick as they made in this Draft, replacing Stroud with a Bryant who's perfect to play 2-tech in the Jags' 4-3. Bryant should start right away and teams will not have much success running to him. The pick that may cast a shadow over all of these is their selection of QB Josh Johnson late in the third. Now I believe there's a lot to Johnson that mainstream fans of the Draft haven't seen. I think he's a veritable boom-or-bust where his ceiling is silly ridiculous and his downside is real and damning. But I love the gamble pestilenceaf23 took on Johnson, I would have done the same thing -- and I would have done it about 10 slots sooner. Last edited by Direckshun; 03-27-2008 at 12:00 PM..
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03-27-2008, 11:56 AM	#913
chiefscafan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manhattan beach, CA Casino cash: $9688215	fair enough direckshun most mocks have moore going alot earlier than that
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03-27-2008, 12:17 PM	#914
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	Cleveland Browns - I The Browns had no picks in the first three rounds. They've given them up for Brady Quinn, Corey Williams, and Shaun Rodgers. Worth it? We'll see. Indianapolis Colts (BTAU) - D+ It's easy to forget about the Colts this Draft season, as they missed out on the first round and whenever they pick, it's always quietly scooping up the golden opportunities that the stupid asses above them passed on. That trend seems to have broken in this particular mock, as they reach twice consecutively. Now, Trevor Laws is forgivable, as he seems to be a solid Cover 2 DT. It's not that much of a reach and Laws has a lot of upside. But the reach at the bottom of the 3rd for OLB Geno Hayes was a much bigger reach and I'm not even sure it was a reach for need. He's undersized and fairly fast, so he fits the bill. BTAU treated his picks like casting calls than draft selections, and the Colts may regret that by the end of the year. Cincinnati Bengals (Spicy McHaggis) - A- The Bengals are just a broken organization. I don't know where they're headed or what they're doing, but that's what happens when your team president has been tenured for what seems like an eternity. Things just stop making sense. But this Draft should do the Bengals well, and they should call up McHaggis for personnel decisions. Keith Rivers was an excellent selection to start their Draft, as they got so thin at linebacker last year they moved DEs out-of-position to fill in. Rivers fills one canyon-sized hole, but they've got many others. Well, with their 2nd, the Bengals scoop up TE Martellus Bennett, as promising and athletic a TE as there is in this year's Draft. This gives Carson Palmer yet another great option downfield and Bennett's versatility enables them to run an exponentially larger combination of routes. And though selecting Schuening in the 3rd might have been premature, it's still a gigantic hole of need that will be aptly filled by a capable rookie. I hate to say there's hope for these guys, but with this Draft, it's possible to believe. St. Louis Rams (BigRedChief) - B+ The Rams passing on Long and Long for Dorsey in the first round is unlikely, but it's a fascinating move. Do they keep Carriker inside and have him and Dorsey destroy opposing OLs? Will they move Carriker back outside and finally have a young, unstoppable pass rusher? Variations of both? Nonetheless, Dorsey does seem like a poor choice this early with the injury concerns, but if he's healthy you can't argue with it. Sam Baker is a safe choice for poor Marc Bulger, who got the living hell knocked out of him when Pace went down last year. Baker will play like a seasoned pro and will be one of those guys to sniff the Pro Bowl every year he plays. He's a great pick and this allows Bulger to breathe a little easier. Caldwell is a fair pick for the Rams. Bruce is ageless, but he's slowing down and Holt isn't getting younger either. Caldwell brings some athleticism but he has room to grow -- with two great mentors to help.
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03-27-2008, 12:20 PM	#915
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