Jonathan Rand: What if (Matt) Ryan's there?

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by Brock

There is nothing to rebut. You claim expertise with nothing to back it up but "6 years ago I said he would be good".

What do you want me to say? I called it, you want me to go on page long explanation and "findthdr it"? Back to the point of this whole thread, Ryan isn't a top QB, their's too many questions about his game if you are looking for top 5 draft pick QBs John Elway is the benchmark

[suds79]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

If you are looking for top 5 draft pick QBs John Elway is the benchmark

Okay debate setteled.

You're open to drafting a QB in the top 5 if only he's as talented as John Elway....

So basically you'd never be for drafting a QB in the top 5 ever again because one could easily make the case that nobody has ever had the tools like Elway did.

Yet is Elway the best of all time? Maybe... Maybe not. There's more to it than just the tools as I'm sure you'd agree.

Where does a guy like Ryan rank as far as smarts and decision making? How's he under pressure? Those are the questions to be asking.

Tough part is that's hard to measure.

[suds79]

Furthermore, if there ever was a QB who compares similarly to John Elway, better hope we have the #1 to get him. Good luck with that.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by suds79

Where does a guy like Ryan rank as far as smarts and decision making? How's he under pressure? Those are the questions to be asking.

Tough part is that's hard to measure.

See the issue I stated on ball placement