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Old 04-10-2008, 04:27 PM  
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Jonathan Rand: What if (Matt) Ryan's there?
What if Ryan's there?
Apr 10, 2008, 2:15:51 AM by Jonathan Rand

What should the Chiefs do if Matt Ryan from Boston College, considered the standout quarterback in this draft, is sitting there when it’s time to make the fifth overall pick?

Thousands of Chiefs fans would be screaming, “Take him!” Some of these same fans, no doubt, were throwing chairs at their big screens last year as the Chiefs declined to trade up during Notre Dame quarterback Brady Quinn’s free fall. The Browns traded up with the Cowboys to grab Quinn at number 22 and the Chiefs, sitting chilly in the 23rd spot, took LSU wide receiver Dwayne Bowe.

Quinn, whom many fans urged the Browns to draft with the third overall pick, now backs up Derek Anderson — a sixth-round choice in 2005 who was waived by the Ravens.

Bowe enjoyed a standout rookie season. Had the Chiefs traded up, they would have lost Bowe and an extra high draft pick that they would have had to give to the Cowboys. For the Chiefs, trading up would have been a big mistake.

Drafting quarterbacks is a lot trickier than you might think. The list of first-round busts at this position is much longer than the list of first-round successes, which is bizarre when you consider how much tape, statistics and workout information is generated by quarterbacks.

But the adjustment from college football to the NFL is so dramatic that “can’t-miss” quarterbacks are few and far between. We still don’t know if JaMarcus Russell, the LSU quarterback picked first overall by the Raiders a year ago, was a wise pick.

The Chiefs need, first and foremost, a top-flight offensive tackle. But if Michigan’s Jake Long is one of the top four picks, the next-best tackle may not be a good enough athlete to justify taking with the fifth pick.

The Chiefs could then try to trade down or take the best player still available. And what if they consider Ryan to be that player?

Chiefs coach Herm Edwards attended Ryan’s campus workout, and should have an educated opinion on whether he’s a superior prospect to incumbent Brodie Croyle. Ryan, 6 feet 5 and 224, gets positive reviews for his size, arm and ability to throw on the run.

The Chiefs haven’t committed a first-round pick for a quarterback since they misfired with Penn State’s Todd Blackledge in 1983. Considering their long-term failure to develop a young passer, is it time now for them to finally take the plunge?

Even if the Chiefs could draft Ryan, they’d have to wonder who’d be blocking for him. It makes no sense to commit a high pick to a quarterback if you can’t protect him, and the Chiefs stand three starters short of a decent line. When the Browns drafted Quinn, they’d already solidified their protection by taking Wisconsin tackle Joe Thomas with the third overall pick.

Houston’s David Carr was a classic case of a highly drafted quarterback who received scant protection. The first overall pick in 2002, he was sacked 249 times during his first years as a Texan. Recently released by the Panthers, it’s tough to know whether Carr ever had the tools to win in the NFL. But it’s fair to say it was hard for him to develop while staring at the sky.

If the Chiefs consider drafting Ryan, they need to be convinced he’s a “can’t-miss” prospect, project him as the opening-day starter and feel confident they can quickly rebuild their offensive line. The chances of Ryan being the real deal and getting enough protection to help the Chiefs progress this year appear remote. It would come as a surprise if they draft him.

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Old 04-11-2008, 01:20 PM   #91
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If he was John Elway or this QB that everyone thinks he should be to get picked by the Chiefs then they'd have no shot at picking him because they aren't sitting with the 1st pick...
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Old 04-11-2008, 01:32 PM   #92
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If he was John Elway or this QB that everyone thinks he should be to get picked by the Chiefs then they'd have no shot at picking him because they aren't sitting with the 1st pick...


Like I said John Elway is the benchmark, a man who was an ace at everything for a top 5 QB pick anything less you are gambling with disaster.
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Like I said John Elway is the benchmark, a man who was an ace at everything for a top 1 QB pick anything less you are gambling with disaster.
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Like I said John Elway is the benchmark, a man who was an ace at everything for a top 5 QB pick anything less you are gambling with disaster.
Well shoot, lets just give up drafting a QB because we flopped with one 25 years ago.

Every draft pick is a gamble. Doesnt matter what position.
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No, my point still stands
There is no point, unless it's "We should draft John Elway".
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This idea that a QB has to be perfect is damn funny, alright I guess we should just wait for that and never win anything till one of those rare guys comes along...Roethlisberger was the 3rd QB taken in his draft with the 12th pick, guess he sucks.

You are not going to get a perfect prospect very often, you just aren't. The only thing Ryan doesn't have is a huge arm and frankly Brady and Manning don't even have huge arms.
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Every draft pick is a gamble. Doesnt matter what position.


a top 5 pick QB that busts is the perennial franchise killer, Ryan has too many flaws to be worthy of a top selection. Ryan will need help to succeed, and can't do everything himself like Elway. I don't want to take that chance with a pick THIS high.
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a top 5 pick QB that busts is the perennial franchise killer, Ryan has too many flaws to be worthy of a top selection. Ryan will need help to succeed, and can't do everything himself like Elway. I don't want to take that chance with a pick THIS high.

Uh he doesn't have a big arm that's his flaw, you are acting like he's 6'1 been hurt a bunch of times and only does 1 thing well, oh wait....

Just for the record every pick is a risk and if any of them bust it will be a franchise killer type of pick....
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a top 5 pick QB that busts is the perennial franchise killer, Ryan has too many flaws to be worthy of a top selection. Ryan will need help to succeed, and can't do everything himself like Elway. I don't want to take that chance with a pick THIS high.

True, but every top 10 pick in this draft has bust potential. You think Jake Long and Sedrick Ellis are sure things??
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Uh he doesn't have a big arm that's his flaw, you are acting like he's 6'1 been hurt a bunch of times and only does 1 thing well, oh wait....




The man is mobile, but he places the ball that gets the WR killed or intercepted at times
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True, but every top 10 pick in this draft has bust potential. You think Jake Long and Sedrick Ellis are sure things??



Long is a solid top 10 prospect, IMO Ellis would be a better pick because the man can dominate and change or the face pick
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I guess you better never speak of Dorsey again because he has question marks...
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I guess you better never speak of Dorsey again because he has question marks...
His injury status has been cleared
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The man is mobile, but he places the ball that gets the WR killed or intercepted at times
Do you realize that every HOF QB had flaws in his game before he was drafted???
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