What QB do you like in this draft class?

[eazyb81]

Originally Posted by Frankie

Would Ryan have gone in the first round two years ago?

Would he have been a 1st round pick as a sophomore? What is the relevance of that? He's a stud now.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by eazyb81

Would he have been a 1st round pick as a sophomore? What is the relevance of that? He's a stud now.

Let me rephrase my point:

Would this year's Matt Ryan have gone in the first round two years ago?

[eazyb81]

Originally Posted by Frankie

Let me rephrase my point:

Would this year's Matt Ryan have gone in the first round two years ago?

Yes, he would have.

Here is a clip where Jaworski analyzes his game and compares him to Carson Palmer. After that, Kiper compares him to Eli Manning, and says he will have the exact same grade as Manning, Rivers, and Roethlisberger. Mike Mayock compares him to Roethlisberger

http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2008/...o-carson-palm/

If one person hypes him, maybe it's just an isolated man-crush. But when every legit NFL Draft analyst loves him as pro QB, it's a trend.

These guys make a living analyzing NFL prospects, and when they all unanimously agree that a guy is special, maybe the haters should suck it up and admit that maybe they don't know what they're talking about on this one.

[suds79]

Originally Posted by Frankie

Let me rephrase my point:

Would this year's Matt Ryan have gone in the first round two years ago?

Well the way it played out, there were only 3 teams that took a QB in that draft.

Young, Leinart & Cutler. I suspect coming off of their success in college, he wouldn't of gone ahead of Young or Leinart. But what does that prove?

But Cutler? Who knows. I'm not a scout.

I personally find it hard to believe a QB who's going to go in the top 8 picks this year wouldn't of been drafted at all in the 1st round comparison to that class.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by suds79

Well the way it played out, there were only 3 teams that took a QB in that draft.

Young, Leinart & Cutler. I suspect coming off of their success in college, he wouldn't of gone ahead of Young or Leinart.

But Cutler? Who knows. I'm not a scout.

I personally find it hard to believe a QB who's going to go in the top 8 picks this year wouldn't of been drafted at all in comparison to that class.

It's an argument used here...I don't think you'll see it anywhere else.

Don't mind Frankie he'd take Jeff Otah over Matt Ryan though to show you where he's at.

And if anyone comes in here and tells me that Young is/was a better prospect than Ryan I am going to laugh so hard.

[Mosbonian]

Originally Posted by Mecca

And if anyone comes in here and tells me that Young is/was a better prospect than Ryan I am going to laugh so hard.

I'll take that challenge.....

You see, you are assuming that Ryan won't bomb, or get hurt. What can you show anyone that you can point to as an absolute that Ryan will be someone's QBOTF? Right now it is conjecture and just that. Could he be and does he have the skill set...yes....but that doesn't always equate to an absolute. (There are many examples of can't-miss QB's that have not panned out) So, until Ryan makes a roster and starts a game you are making assumptions.

As for Vince Young, he has started games in the NFL...plus he has a few other credentials that at least give him the nod over Ryan.

But let's have this conversation in a couple of years...by then you can make that comparison.

mmaddog
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[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by mmaddog

What can you show anyone that you can point to as an absolute that Ryan will be someone's QBOTF?

You could say the same thing about any QB before hes drafted. They all have questions marks. Nobody knows, its all a gamble.


All i know is, ill trust the experts before i trust anyone on Chiefsplanet. The experts say hes a top 5 pick.

[Mosbonian]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

You could say the same thing about any QB before hes drafted. They all have questions marks. Nobody knows, its all a gamble.


All i know is, ill trust the experts before i trust anyone on Chiefsplanet. The experts say hes a top 5 pick.

I don't disagree...I am just trying to point out that, while Ryan is the best QB in the draft, he may not pan out either. And trying to say that he is better than Vince Young at this time is a bit premature.

mmaddog
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[Frankie]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Don't mind Frankie he'd take Jeff Otah over Matt Ryan though to show you where he's at.me that Young is/was a better prospect than Ryan I am going to laugh so hard.

You are right. I consider both of them mid-1st rounders. If we traded down to about 16 then if both are available there's a decision to be made. I'd still lean towards the needed LT over the un-needed QB.