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Matt Ryan: 5th pick in the draft 35 36.46%
Brian Brohm: 1st rounder 15 15.63%
Joe Flacco: 2nd – 3rd rounder 19 19.79%
Chad Henne: 2nd – 3rd rounder 15 15.63%
Andre Woodson: 2nd – 3rd rounder 10 10.42%
John David Booty: 2nd – 3rd rounder 4 4.17%
Colt Brennan: Mid rounder 10 10.42%
Erik Ainge: Mid rounder 8 8.33%
Other 8 8.33%
I don’t like any of the QBs in this year’s class 13 13.54%
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Old 04-12-2008, 06:38 PM   #1
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I just wish people would make up their mind on what they want as a QB, I watch people rip on Russell who is the all the physical tools in the world you could want a guy to have prospect, and now I watch people rip on Ryan who is the all intangibles very good physical skills guy.....

Well um which kinda QB do you want because you aren't gonna get both that comes along once in what 40 years?

Also I seem to recall everyone wanting the Chiefs to pick Quinn as he was falling....now here we are the QB situation is no better, all that we know is Croyle confirmed he still gets injured and now no one wants a QB?

Ryan is a better prospect than Quinn in my book.
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Old 04-12-2008, 06:43 PM   #2
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Well um which kinda QB do you want because you aren't gonna get both that comes along once in what 40 years?
As far as I can tell, he wont be worthy of being the "Mighty KC Chiefs QBoTF" unless hes the 2nd coming of John Elway, Troy Aikman, Joe Montana and Dan Marino all rolled into one.
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Old 04-13-2008, 12:00 AM   #3
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As far as I can tell, he wont be worthy of being the "Mighty KC Chiefs QBoTF" unless hes the 2nd coming of John Elway, Troy Aikman, Joe Montana and Dan Marino all rolled into one.
What's wrong with that? We are picking in the top 5. The kind of QBOTF Ryan represents we already have on the roster. Neither Croyle nor Ryan is a cinch. But we cannot afford to waste a top 5 pick on an INT-tossing maybe while we have gaping holes in other positions (especially O-line).
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Old 04-12-2008, 06:44 PM   #4
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I just wish people would make up their mind on what they want as a QB, I watch people rip on Russell who is the all the physical tools in the world you could want a guy to have prospect, and now I watch people rip on Ryan who is the all intangibles very good physical skills guy.....

Well um which kinda QB do you want because you aren't gonna get both that comes along once in what 40 years?

Also I seem to recall everyone wanting the Chiefs to pick Quinn as he was falling....now here we are the QB situation is no better, all that we know is Croyle confirmed he still gets injured and now no one wants a QB?

Ryan is a better prospect than Quinn in my book.

This is because opinions vary widely, especially on QBs. THere were plenty of people who were in love with Ryan Leaf over Manning, but you can't seem to find any of them around these days.
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Old 04-12-2008, 06:48 PM   #5
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This is because opinions vary widely, especially on QBs. THere were plenty of people who were in love with Ryan Leaf over Manning, but you can't seem to find any of them around these days.

We're to this point now of people looking for excuses to not take Matt Ryan, if anyone thinks other players are better or whatever fine just say that. But please don't try to bullshit me or anyone else into believing that Croyle and Ryan are remotely the same kind of prospects.

I still believe it's that fear, to be great you have to take risks, many people aren't willing to do that they'd rather get back to what we've always been than risk being awful for several years to win it all.

It's that safe mentality.
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Old 04-12-2008, 06:50 PM   #6
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I still believe it's that fear, to be great you have to take risks, many people aren't willing to do that they'd rather get back to what we've always been than risk being awful for several years to win it all.

It's that safe mentality.
Which is why im willing to bet good money Carl is praying every night Atlanta snags Ryan so he wont be forced to make the decision.
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Old 04-12-2008, 06:53 PM   #7
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Which is why im willing to bet good money Carl is praying every night Atlanta snags Ryan so he wont be forced to make the decision.
You gotta hate GM's like that and fans like that even more, what ever happened to having some god damn sack and making the decisions to win it all? Hell I'm fine with my team being awful as long as I think their decisions are geared toward winning it all and some of them didn't work out. I like that more than the "we're gonna be safe so we never bottom out yet we never really win either"
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Old 04-13-2008, 12:03 AM   #8
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Which is why im willing to bet good money Carl is praying every night Atlanta snags Ryan so he wont be forced to make the decision.
I actually think they are trying to sucker the Ravens into a trade.
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Old 04-12-2008, 06:49 PM   #9
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THere were plenty of people who were in love with Ryan Leaf over Manning, but you can't seem to find any of them around these days.
At the time, Manning was the "safer" pick because he was already NFL ready.

Leaf had more upside because he had the cannon for an arm. BTW, Leaf probably had the strongest arm ive ever seen in the NFL. I remember him throwing some tight spirals 50 yards downfield at Arrowhead in a rainstorm. Too bad it wasnt accurate.
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At the time, Manning was the "safer" pick because he was already NFL ready.

Leaf had more upside because he had the cannon for an arm. BTW, Leaf probably had the strongest arm ive ever seen in the NFL. I remember him throwing some tight spirals 50 yards downfield at Arrowhead in a rainstorm. Too bad it wasnt accurate.
Yea sounds like that Matt Ryan guy doesn't it?
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Also I seem to recall everyone wanting the Chiefs to pick Quinn as he was falling....
Ehh, I didn't. There you go again presenting assumptions as fact.
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Old 04-13-2008, 07:55 AM   #12
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Also I seem to recall everyone wanting the Chiefs to pick Quinn as he was falling....
In all fairness though, the guy was considered a Top 5-10 pick. Falling to 23 and picking him would have been tremendous value.

If we were picking in the 20's again and Ryan fell like Quinn did, I'd be all over it.
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