NFL Draft If JA is traded...Gholston is our pick at 5 - Page 2

bkkcoh · 04-22-2008, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsfanGoLJ

You shut your mouth when your talking to me (Wedding Crashers). No way Gholston is overrated, some say he disappears, show me a DE that doesn't disappear sometime during the game, if they stop running at you, your tackles are going to go down, because your not going to be able to run down everybody. He pressured Flynn quite a bit in the LSU game, I will hand it to Flynn he got rid of the ball very well when he was pressured. Uh OSU players dont play well in the NFL????????? Ever heard of Mike Vrabel, Terry Glenn, Chris Carter, Eddie George, AJ Hawk, Shawn Spring, Antoine Winfield, Ahmed Plummer, Mike Doss, Jack Tatum. I mean seriously come on, you can say players from all schools have been rated high and never projected to what they "should of been" in the NFL.

Just a taste of what Gholston has done.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE2y_ypR9wQ&NR=1

Step away from the kool-aid and put the cup down, don't drink anymore.

If I had a couple of players to choose from, 1 from a conference like the Big 10 or a team from the SEC, I would take the player from the SEC. It is a stronger conference from top to bottom and would be tested more week-in and week-out.

Considering how strong of a team that OSU was supposed to have, they sure have flopped when it comes to bowl games.

I am not saying that there haven't been some good players from O$U, but consider they are seriously overrated coming out of O$U.

El Jefe · 04-22-2008, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by bkkcoh

Step away from the kool-aid and put the cup down, don't drink anymore.

If I had a couple of players to choose from, 1 from a conference like the Big 10 or a team from the SEC, I would take the player from the SEC. It is a stronger conference from top to bottom and would be tested more week-in and week-out.

Considering how strong of a team that OSU was supposed to have, they sure have flopped when it comes to bowl games.

I am not saying that there haven't been some good players from O$U, but consider they are seriously overrated coming out of O$U.

Brock · 04-22-2008, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRock

Who says Herm loves Gholston? I've read the total opposite of that, and the big knock on Gholston the past few weeks is he doesn't show up as often as you'd like on the game film. Herm's a big game film guy.

Peter King says Edwards likes Gholston.

**Tribal Warfare** · 04-22-2008, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Peter King says Edwards likes Gholston.

Others say he Likes Ellis too

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-22-2008, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Others say he Likes Ellis too

I think that the Dolphins have set this whole thing into motion, and it works out great for us.

J. Long
Dorsey
Ryan
C. Long
Ellis

**AustinChief** · 04-22-2008, 12:06 PM

I would definitely take Gholston over Ellis... but I certainly wouldn't throw a fit if Ellis is the pick.

Gholston will be a beast in the NFL.

BigRock · 04-22-2008, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Peter King says Edwards likes Gholston.

I think King is the only person saying that, and he's the same guy who said a week ago not to believe anything coming out of KC because they're going to be angling to get both the Jets and Pats to move up.

Suggesting Herm likes Gholston only helps that cause along, so why King would believe it and repeat it is anyone's guess.

WPI · 04-22-2008, 02:33 AM

Right.. Duh.... CP's son?

PhillyChiefFan · 04-22-2008, 06:42 AM

So even if we do get a 1st rounder and a 3rd for Jared Allen we have to expend one of those picks replacing him so basically all we would get is a 3rd round pick for a top tier DE and their pick is what, #17??

I like Gholston, I'm a PSU fan so its a love/hate thing but he is solid. I just think its a shame that we are going to get rid of JA for an untested NFL rookie, who we are still going to have to give #5 money to.

**DaKCMan AP** · 04-22-2008, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by PhillyChiefFan

So even if we do get a 1st rounder and a 3rd for Jared Allen we have to expend one of those picks replacing him so basically all we would get is a 3rd round pick for a top tier DE and their pick is what, #17??

No. We don't have to spend one of those picks replacing him. If the BPA at #5 is Chris Long, fine. Otherwise we should still take Jake Long, Glenn Dorsey or Sedrick Ellis (Gholston or Ryan if the FO really believes they're the BPA). We should make the exact same pick at #5 regardless of whether JA is traded or not.

PhillyChiefFan · 04-22-2008, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

No. We don't have to spend one of those picks replacing him. If the BPA at #5 is Chris Long, fine. Otherwise we should still take Jake Long, Glenn Dorsey or Sedrick Ellis (Gholston or Ryan if the FO really believes they're the BPA). We should make the exact same pick at #5 regardless of whether JA is traded or not.

I completely agree, I was going off of the thread title to draft Gholston. Was simply making that very point, that if we drafted Gholston basically we would have only gotten a 3rd rounder for Allen. If I were drafting I would draft BPA also. I believe Ellis will be there at 5 but if Long is there I would grab him in a heartbeat, I love his tenacity and power.

C. Long wouldn't be an upgrade to JA but would certainly compliment the line. but I agree, I would draft as if JA was still on the line. And upgrade interior DL or if J. Long is there grab him for OL.

Spectre · 04-22-2008, 07:01 AM

Sounds like the Chiefs are about to make another stellar roster move.

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Chiefnj2 · 04-22-2008, 07:21 AM

Pay $22M for an untested rookie DE and trade away the established player who was asking for guaranteed money in the neighborhood of 30 million. Yep, that about makes sense for the Chiefs.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-22-2008, 07:48 AM

People are getting carried away with this.

What if Gholston is the BPA at 5?

What if they were planning on picking him regardless of what happens with JA?

People are so quick to say we're wasting a pick to "replace" Allen.....

We don't NEED to replace Allen. We need the best players we can get regardless. If it happens to be a DE, so be it.

Chiefnj2 · 04-22-2008, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

People are getting carried away with this.

What if Gholston is the BPA at 5?

What if they were planning on picking him regardless of what happens with JA?

People are so quick to say we're wasting a pick to "replace" Allen.....

We don't NEED to replace Allen. We need the best players we can get regardless. If it happens to be a DE, so be it.

They don't have a strict BPA list. They have clusters damnit.

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OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2021115	People are getting carried away with this. What if Gholston is the BPA at 5? What if they were planning on picking him regardless of what happens with JA? People are so quick to say we're wasting a pick to "replace" Allen..... We don't NEED to replace Allen. We need the best players we can get regardless. If it happens to be a DE, so be it.
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