If JA is traded...Gholston is our pick at 5

[BigRock]

Who says Herm loves Gholston? I've read the total opposite of that, and the big knock on Gholston the past few weeks is he doesn't show up as often as you'd like on the game film. Herm's a big game film guy.

[ShortRoundChief]

Originally Posted by BigRock

Who says Herm loves Gholston? I've read the total opposite of that, and the big knock on Gholston the past few weeks is he doesn't show up as often as you'd like on the game film. Herm's a big game film guy.

I think herm does a good job confusing everyone, I just wish he'd give it a break gameday

[bkkcoh]

Originally Posted by BigRock

Who says Herm loves Gholston? I've read the total opposite of that, and the big knock on Gholston the past few weeks is he doesn't show up as often as you'd like on the game film. Herm's a big game film guy.

Being in buckeye country, I would have to agree with that, there is no way he is going to justify being a top 15 pick in the 1st round. He is way overrated. Where was he against LSU? O$U plays such a weak schedule most of thier players don't perform in the NFL at the star level like they are projected.

Chiefs, please don't waste your pick on Gholston.....

[suds79]

Uh please no.

If a trade doesn't happen and it plays out like in the example, IMO Ellis or Ryan would be better picks as far as BPA.

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by bkkcoh

Being in buckeye country, I would have to agree with that, there is no way he is going to justify being a top 15 pick in the 1st round. He is way overrated. Where was he against LSU? O$U plays such a weak schedule most of thier players don't perform in the NFL at the star level like they are projected.

Chiefs, please don't waste your pick on Gholston.....

Don't tell that to kcchiefsfangolj who would take Gholston over Chris Long (and just about anyone else)


I see Gholston as a smaller, but stronger and more athletic Derrick Harvey.

[El Jefe]

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Don't tell that to kcchiefsfangolj who would take Gholston over Chris Long (and just about anyone else)


I see Gholston as a smaller, but stronger and more athletic Derrick Harvey.

It's true I do like Gholston over C.Long. I would like to have Gholston, but if we keep JA, I will say what I have said all year, I would take Glenn Dorsey in a heartbeat. I would take Sed Ellis also if we keep JA. Chris Long isn't going to be there when we draft anyway so your point about me liking Gholston is moot.

[Son of Logical]

Ok, I have watched tape of Gholston, and I am left unimpressed. I do think he is a round 1 type of guy, but not at number 5 to us. If we trade JA to Minnesota, and get their pick. I would like to see us get either Dorsey or Ellis at 5 (I would like to get Chris Long but I think that he is going to be gone), and get Clady at 17. I don't think Clady is top 5 talent, but after looking more into the guy I think at 17 he could really help this team. This way we have studs on both sides of the line, and we all know if you have a great line on both sides you win ball games.

[El Jefe]

Originally Posted by Titanman64

Ok, I have watched tape of Gholston, and I am left unimpressed. I do think he is a round 1 type of guy, but not at number 5 to us. If we trade JA to Minnesota, and get their pick. I would like to see us get either Dorsey or Ellis at 5 (I would like to get Chris Long but I think that he is going to be gone), and get Clady at 17. I don't think Clady is top 5 talent, but after looking more into the guy I think at 17 he could really help this team. This way we have studs on both sides of the line, and we all know if you have a great line on both sides you win ball games.

Your idea of tape would be? Not another youtube only homer, eh? Not attacking you or anything at all like that, I get tired of people who say they watch tape when all they do is watch a youtube clip. I am the first to say if my opinion on someone is speculation or I have actually watched the person play and really watched them, not just listened for when their name was announced.

[CanadaKC]

It's beginning to look like the perfect storm, as I said in my original post, for us to draft Gholston. The Longs will both be gone before we pick, Dorsey looks to be gone as well, and I don't see us taking Ryan at #5. All the other O-line talent is a reach at #5...and Gholston is the next BPA. If Parcells thinks Gholston is the second coming of Demarcus Ware...that's a pretty good sign of how good this kid is. I just hope Carl can somehow get a 1st and at least a 2nd for JA...

[Son of Logical]

Originally Posted by kcchiefsfanGoLJ

Your idea of tape would be? Not another youtube only homer, eh? Not attacking you or anything at all like that, I get tired of people who say they watch tape when all they do is watch a youtube clip. I am the first to say if my opinion on someone is speculation or I have actually watched the person play and really watched them, not just listened for when their name was announced.

No, I don't watch youtube. I actually kind of pay attention to OSU games, I knew Michael Whiley and ever since he went there I have somewhat followed OSU. I watched accouple of their games in 07, and yes he stood out, but he didn't dominate. A player that goes in the top 5 should dominate, I just never saw that from him. Maybe my watching tape thing was a little ambiguous, maybe "after watching him play this year" would of been better. I wouldn't be pissed if we picked him, but I think Dorsey or Ellis would be better.

[El Jefe]

Originally Posted by bkkcoh

Being in buckeye country, I would have to agree with that, there is no way he is going to justify being a top 15 pick in the 1st round. He is way overrated. Where was he against LSU? O$U plays such a weak schedule most of thier players don't perform in the NFL at the star level like they are projected.

Chiefs, please don't waste your pick on Gholston.....

You shut your mouth when your talking to me (Wedding Crashers). No way Gholston is overrated, some say he disappears, show me a DE that doesn't disappear sometime during the game, if they stop running at you, your tackles are going to go down, because your not going to be able to run down everybody. He pressured Flynn quite a bit in the LSU game, I will hand it to Flynn he got rid of the ball very well when he was pressured. Uh OSU players dont play well in the NFL????????? Ever heard of Mike Vrabel, Terry Glenn, Chris Carter, Eddie George, AJ Hawk, Shawn Spring, Antoine Winfield, Ahmed Plummer, Mike Doss, Jack Tatum. I mean seriously come on, you can say players from all schools have been rated high and never projected to what they "should of been" in the NFL.

Just a taste of what Gholston has done.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE2y_ypR9wQ&NR=1

[bkkcoh]

Originally Posted by kcchiefsfanGoLJ

You shut your mouth when your talking to me (Wedding Crashers). No way Gholston is overrated, some say he disappears, show me a DE that doesn't disappear sometime during the game, if they stop running at you, your tackles are going to go down, because your not going to be able to run down everybody. He pressured Flynn quite a bit in the LSU game, I will hand it to Flynn he got rid of the ball very well when he was pressured. Uh OSU players dont play well in the NFL????????? Ever heard of Mike Vrabel, Terry Glenn, Chris Carter, Eddie George, AJ Hawk, Shawn Spring, Antoine Winfield, Ahmed Plummer, Mike Doss, Jack Tatum. I mean seriously come on, you can say players from all schools have been rated high and never projected to what they "should of been" in the NFL.

Just a taste of what Gholston has done.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE2y_ypR9wQ&NR=1

Step away from the kool-aid and put the cup down, don't drink anymore.

If I had a couple of players to choose from, 1 from a conference like the Big 10 or a team from the SEC, I would take the player from the SEC. It is a stronger conference from top to bottom and would be tested more week-in and week-out.

Considering how strong of a team that OSU was supposed to have, they sure have flopped when it comes to bowl games.

I am not saying that there haven't been some good players from O$U, but consider they are seriously overrated coming out of O$U.

[El Jefe]

Originally Posted by bkkcoh

Step away from the kool-aid and put the cup down, don't drink anymore.

If I had a couple of players to choose from, 1 from a conference like the Big 10 or a team from the SEC, I would take the player from the SEC. It is a stronger conference from top to bottom and would be tested more week-in and week-out.

Considering how strong of a team that OSU was supposed to have, they sure have flopped when it comes to bowl games.

I am not saying that there haven't been some good players from O$U, but consider they are seriously overrated coming out of O$U.

[bkkcoh]

Originally Posted by kcchiefsfanGoLJ

I see it is too late, the kool-aid has already impacted your thinking process.


When O$U stops getting their schedule from the bakery then come and talk to me.


Indiana, Minnesote, Purdue, Northwestern are really tough teams. Michigan used to be their only question mark on their schedule. and then you throw in teams like Akron and Youngstown State in the mix, that is the true icing on the cake.

I realize that schools make their schedules years in advance, but some of them are truly sad.

Most of the college programs are guilty of this though.

[El Jefe]

Originally Posted by bkkcoh

I see it is too late, the kool-aid has already impacted your thinking process.


When O$U stops getting their schedule from the bakery then come and talk to me.


Indiana, Minnesote, Purdue, Northwestern are really tough teams. Michigan used to be their only question mark on their schedule. and then you throw in teams like Akron and Youngstown State in the mix, that is the true icing on the cake.

I realize that schools make their schedules years in advance, but some of them are truly sad.

Most of the college programs are guilty of this though.

Oh I guess USC is a nobody? Once again I dont know whats worse reading your crap or DaKcMans garbage.