If JA is traded...Gholston is our pick at 5

[suds79]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Chris Long is the safe pick; Gholston is the kind of guy you build an entire defense around.

I'm not surprised that most people on here want to go with the safe, low-risk prospect.

Is it possible that most people want to go for Chris Long because they feel he's simply better? Just curious.

That seems to be the word from a lot of analysis. Now before I get the "those draft experts don't know shit" common blast, I will say that I would take their word over any BB poster.

It mean it is their job to research this stuff 24 - 7.

[bkkcoh]

Originally Posted by Coogs

I don't have any tape to form my own opinion on. I watch a lot of college football to. But Ohio State is not one of the teams I enjoy watching, so I usually watch another game instead. And I am cool with you OTW58.

Being in the Columbus area, O$U was on the tube every game (have Direct TV) and Gholston did hide at times in games....

Originally Posted by suds79

Is it possible that most people want to go for Chris Long because they feel he's simply better? Just curious.

That seems to be the word from a lot of analysis. Now before I get the "those draft experts don't know shit" common blast, I will say that I would take their word over any BB poster.

It mean it is their job to research this stuff 24 - 7.

Exactly, and most of the time they are former players.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by bkkcoh

Being in the Columbus area, O$U was on the tube every game (have Direct TV) and Gholston did hide at times in games....

Well what do you know.

So did Jared Allen, yet everyone thinks he's the greatest ****ing player to ever wear a pair of cleats.

I'd be willing to bet that if you had tape of each of Chris Long's games, there would be some that he was gameplanned for and didn't have a great game, or just flat out had a down game.

It happens.

Some of you guys are acting like he's a lazy ass Ryan Sims type.

[bkkcoh]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Well what do you know.

So did Jared Allen, yet everyone thinks he's the greatest ****ing player to ever wear a pair of cleats.

I'd be willing to bet that if you had tape of each of Chris Long's games, there would be some that he was gameplanned for and didn't have a great game, or just flat out had a down game.

It happens.

Some of you guys are acting like he's a lazy ass Ryan Sims type.

IMHO and that is all it is. GEESH

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by bkkcoh

IMHO and that is all it is. GEESH

I'm not knocking you, per se.

I'm making a point. People are looking to nitpick the **** out of these guys. They are Top 5 picks for a reason, yet some of these draft monkeys make it out like he's undraftable.

Jared Allen, though no one has the stones to admit it, disappeared in the 3rd/4th quarter of games.

Dwight Freeney gets a huge payday, and his production falls off.

It happens to so-called "elite" players that have been in the NFL for years, yet this kid is getting crucified over it?

Not to mention, you've got scouts/writers saying that his motor is his biggest asset, and others saying it's his biggest weakness.

[Sure-Oz]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'm not knocking you, per se.

I'm making a point. People are looking to nitpick the **** out of these guys. They are Top 5 picks for a reason, yet some of these draft monkeys make it out like he's undraftable.

Jared Allen, though no one has the stones to admit it, disappeared in the 3rd/4th quarter of games.

Dwight Freeney gets a huge payday, and his production falls off.

It happens to so-called "elite" players that have been in the NFL for years, yet this kid is getting crucified over it?

Not to mention, you've got scouts/writers saying that his motor is his biggest asset, and others saying it's his biggest weakness.

Allen had zero sacks in the 4th qtr last year, that struck me as a "wtf?"

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Allen had zero sacks in the 4th qtr last year, that struck me as a "wtf?"

And if memory serves correct, he only had either 1.5 or 2.5 in the third quarter.

Most of our games were close going into the 4th, so the "well, teams just ran on us" argument goes right out the window.

[El Jefe]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'm not knocking you, per se.

I'm making a point. People are looking to nitpick the **** out of these guys. They are Top 5 picks for a reason, yet some of these draft monkeys make it out like he's undraftable.

Jared Allen, though no one has the stones to admit it, disappeared in the 3rd/4th quarter of games.

Dwight Freeney gets a huge payday, and his production falls off.

It happens to so-called "elite" players that have been in the NFL for years, yet this kid is getting crucified over it?

Not to mention, you've got scouts/writers saying that his motor is his biggest asset, and others saying it's his biggest weakness.

QFT. bkkcoh, seems as if Im not the only one who doesn't agree with you eh?

[bkkcoh]

Originally Posted by kcchiefsfanGoLJ

QFT. bkkcoh, seems as if Im not the only one who doesn't agree with you eh?

All I am saying is that I don't think he is worthy of a top 10 pick. It almost seems as if there are more people that agree with my stance then yours. But that isn't the point. Is it?????

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Not to mention, you've got scouts/writers saying that his motor is his biggest asset, and others saying it's his biggest weakness.

Which means it is probably somewhere in the middle?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Coogs

Which means it is probably somewhere in the middle?

Agree.