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Old 11-27-2007, 01:33 PM  
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The Official Walter Football Mock Draft Thread

As I make no secret, I love reading Walter Football. Not because the guy is particularly educated on the Chiefs, but because the guy's proud of his opinions and he has impressive knowledge of the incoming draft class.

Now, I'll have you know, every single mock he posted for us last year was wrong.

But that doesn't mean they aren't interesting.

I'll update this thread leading up to the Draft every time he updates his 2008 mock. I don't care about his 2009 mock. Plus, I'll only be focusing on the picks he gives the Chiefs.

http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2008.php
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Old 04-17-2008, 11:02 AM   #76
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I'd rather it fall like this.

1st - Glenn Dorsey - DT - LSU
2nd - Sam Baker - T - USC
3rd - Chevis Jackson - CB - LSU
4th - Eric Young - OG - Tenn.
5th - Marcus Monk - WR - Arkansas
5th - John Sullivan - C - Notre Dame
I'd like us to go DT-OT-WR or some variation of that order on the first day.

Edit: 1st three rounds -- still 1st day to my stupid ass.
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Old 04-18-2008, 08:37 AM   #77
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Walter adds a 6th round. He keeps the first five rounds the same except for our 2nd pick in the 5th...

140. Kansas City Chiefs: Darius Reynaud, WR, West Virginia
The Chiefs have nothing at receiver after Dwayne Bowe. As a rookie, Bowe recorded 995 yards. Ranking in at No. 2 was Jeff Webb, 313 yards. Yeeesh. Call me nuts, but I don't think Devard Darling is the answer.

170. Kansas City Chiefs: Chris Harrington, DE, Texas A&M
Depth is needed at defensive end, especially if Jared Allen is traded to the Vikings, Eagles or Buccaneers.

187. Kansas City Chiefs: Chauncey Washington, RB, USC
If Larry Johnson goes down again, I'm sure the Chiefs don't want Kolby Smith handling things by himself again.

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Old 04-24-2008, 10:52 AM   #78
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He's gone 6 rounds, and added in the Jared Allen picks:

5. Kansas City Chiefs: Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC
What the Chiefs do here completely depends on what the Rams do at No. 2. St. Louis has a choice between Chris Long and Glenn Dorsey. I'll explain why the team's decision impacts Kansas City.

If the Rams Draft Glenn Dorsey... The Falcons will take Sedrick Ellis third overall. The Raiders, meanwhile, will go with Darren McFadden, leaving the Chiefs with their choice of Chris Long, Vernon Gholston, Matt Ryan, Branden Albert and Ryan Clady. For reasons I'll list below, I'm eliminating the latter three. Kansas City would probably select the defensive end it prefers most, which in all likelihood, would be Howie Long's son.

If the Rams Draft Chris Long... Atlanta would pick Dorsey at No. 3, and the Raiders would still choose McFadden. That would leave Kansas City with Ellis, Gholston, Ryan, Albert and Clady. I would think the Chiefs would go with Ellis over Gholston. First of all, Ellis is regarded as a slightly better prospect. Second, if Kansas City were to take Gholston, what would they do at 17? There won't be any decent defensive tackles worth taking there. All the offensive tackles would be long gone. They'd be stuck with a corner. On the other hand, if Ellis is the selection, Phillip Merling would be a serious option at 17. The Chiefs could also move up a few slots for Derrick Harvey.

What About Ryan Clady and Branden Albert? Albert makes more sense than Clady; his stock is higher than Clady's, and his ability to play almost every position on the front, including left tackle, has to be intriguing to the Chiefs, who need help everywhere. If I were running Kansas City's front office and I couldn't trade down, I would probably choose Albert over Ellis, just based on the team's immense need for offensive linemen. That said, I think it's a bit too early to take either guy.

But who's to say general manager Carl Peterson is going to do the right thing? We've seen Peterson screw up draft after draft. In fact, from all of the Chiefs' drafts from 2000 to 2005, there are currently only six players on the roster (thanks to forum poster titan_qb_3 for pointing out that embarrassing stat).

What About Matt Ryan? You never know what stunt Peterson is going to pull, but I don't think Ryan's a top-five prospect. I heard about the Chiefs sending 64,000 people to his Pro Day. Think about this though - if Kansas City was really that interested in him, why would it make it so public? Remember, the Broncos drafted Jay Cutler without even interviewing him. GMs and coaches are so paranoid, if you hear them say one thing, you generally should believe the opposite.

17. Kansas City Chiefs: Phillip Merling, DE, Clemson
The Chiefs would love to land an offensive tackle here, but there's no way Jeff Otah, Chris Williams, Ryan Clady or Branden Albert are making it this far. The demand for linemen is so enormous right now; the Steelers and Bengals used a franchise tag on backup tackles, while the Dolphins elected to make one the first-overall pick.

Cornerback (Mike Jenkins) is an option here, but this draft is so deep at the position that Kansas City will be able to acquire one in the second or third rounds.

The defensive end position, meanwhile, isn't as deep. The Chiefs only have two ends on their roster - Tamba Hali and Turk McBride - and this could be their final chance to land a potential starter there. Kansas City could also use one of its many selections to move up a few slots to secure Derrick Harvey.

35. Kansas City Chiefs: Carl Nicks, OT, Nebraska
Perhaps the team that benefits most from the DeAngelo Hall trade is Kansas City; without the Raiders drafting in front of them, there's a greater chance a superior second-tier tackle will still be on the board. If Carl Nicks is available, he's pretty much a no-brainer; Kansas City cannot afford to surrender 55 sacks against next year. Hopefully that will change with Nicks on the Chiefs' offensive front.

Nicks had an outstanding combine and looked like a first-round prospect. Unfortunately, he was arrested in early March. Is his draft stock dipping? I'll dub any team that doesn't take him just because of his arrest completely foolish. Check out the details of Nicks' arrest per the Lincoln Journal Star:

"Police arrived to find the music could be heard [at 3124 Mickaela Lane in northwest Lincoln before midnight Sunday] from the sidewalk and more than 75 people inside. Empty beer cans littered the home. Police cited 10 partygoers who remained after officers told everyone to leave, including Nicks ... Police arrested Nicks on suspicion of being an inmate of a disorderly house and failure to disperse after he wouldn't leave. He since has been released."

Question - don't the cops have anything else better to do than breaking up a college party? Newsflash - more than 90 percent of college students under the age of 21 drink alcohol. And here's the kicker - NICKS ISN'T EVEN UNDERAGE! This is a non-story in my opinion. Actually, it only speaks volumes about how useless the police are in that town. How about trying to stop actual crime?

I hope Nicks gets drafted in the first round. Anyone who opposes inept, power-hungry authority is a hero in my book.

66. Kansas City Chiefs: Tyvon Branch, CB/KR, Connecticut
Ty Law and Patrick Surtain will both be over the age of 32 once the 2008 season commences. Law, another bust signing by inept general manager Carl Peterson, was recently cut.

73. Kansas City Chiefs: Andre' Woodson, QB, Kentucky
The Chiefs look like they're going with Brodie Croyle in 2008, but I don't think they'll be able to resist Andre' Woodson at this juncture. I've never been impressed with Croyle; he has yet to win a game as a starting quarterback in the NFL (0-6).

It drives me nuts that Andre' Woodson could actually fall this far, but it looks like that just may happen. Well, if it does, I feel as though the Chiefs could be getting the best quarterback in this draft. Woodson doesn't have as strong an arm as Joe Flacco, or the connections that Matt Ryan possesses (i.e. a certain NFL Network analyst doesn't want to have his children), but he just seems to have the "it" that many signal callers don't have. Remember, he was the No. 1 quarterback in October. I'm just hoping Matt McGuire doesn't get an aneurysm if Woodson slips late into the third round.

82. Kansas City Chiefs: Martellus Bennett, TE, TexasA&M
With tons of picks in the third round, the Chiefs can afford to spend one on the best player available. That happens to be Martellus Bennett, who could be taken in the second round. Tony Gonzalez just turned 32, and with Kris Wilson signing with Philadelphia, Kansas City has no heir apparent for the future Hall of Famer.

105. Kansas City Chiefs: Eddie Royal, WR/PR, Virginia Tech
The Chiefs have nothing at receiver after Dwayne Bowe. As a rookie, Bowe recorded 995 yards. Ranking in at No. 2 was Jeff Webb, 313 yards. Yeeesh. Call me nuts, but I don't think Devard Darling is the answer.

136. Kansas City Chiefs: John Sullivan, C, Notre Dame
The Chiefs have to keep upgrading their offensive line. However, knowing Carl Peterson's draft tactics, he'll probably take Justin Medlock here.

140. Kansas City Chiefs: Dwight Lowery, CB, San Jose State
Talk about depth issues. Kansas City's starting cornerback across from the archaic Patrick Surtain is Dimitri Patterson. Yeah, I'm not sure if he's a real person either. Depth is needed even if the Chiefs grab a corner in the earlier rounds.

170. Kansas City Chiefs: Johnny Dingle, DE, West Virginia
Depth is needed at defensive end in the wake of the Jared Allen trade.

187. Kansas City Chiefs: Allen Patrick, RB, Oklahoma
If Larry Johnson goes down again, I'm sure the Chiefs don't want Kolby Smith handling things by himself again.
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Old 04-24-2008, 10:55 AM   #79
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I think that'd be a really good Draft, but I doubt all those OTs are gone by the 17th pick, and I'd prefer to see us take Devon Thomas with the 17th rather than Merling.
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Old 04-24-2008, 10:58 AM   #80
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Anthony Collins is a 1st round pick now?
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Saying there's "no way" any of those OTs are available at 17 is a bit much.
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Ellis to Atlanta is interesting. It's the type of pick I would have thought would be popular, but it's the first time I've seen it. I like Ellis, I think it'd be a great pick.
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Saying there's "no way" any of those OTs are available at 17 is a bit much.
Agree.

Almost every mock I read before the Allen trade had Williams going 18th to Houston.
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The Jared Allen trade actually increases the chances of a OT being available at 17. If the Chiefs had taken (or still take) someone like Albert or Clady at 5, that would be one more lineman off the board before 17. But now if the Chiefs go defense at 5, one additional team would have to go OL for at least one of the big 5 (Otah/Williams/Albert/Clady) not to be available.


All I can say is: Anybody but Merling.
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The Jared Allen trade actually increases the chances of a OT being available at 17. If the Chiefs had taken (or still take) someone like Albert or Clady at 5, that would be one more lineman off the board before 17. But now if the Chiefs go defense at 5, one additional team would have to go OL for at least one of the big 5 (Otah/Williams/Albert/Clady) not to be available.


All I can say is: Anybody but Merling.
If we go with Ellis or Long at #5.....then I'm on the OT bandwagon. That is unless someone crazy good falls to the 17th spot. But a Ellis/C. Williams 1st round would make my day.
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If we go with Ellis or Long at #5.....then I'm on the OT bandwagon. That is unless someone crazy good falls to the 17th spot. But a Ellis/C. Williams 1st round would make my day.
So who would you consider crazy good who realistically could fall there in a strange draft (in other words, not Ellis)?

I'd say McKelvin (solves our need at CB and KR, so he'd be tough to pass up) and I am really high on Harvey. I can't see either of these guys falling that far, but some mock drafts have that happening.
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So who would you consider crazy good who realistically could fall there in a strange draft (in other words, not Ellis)?

I'd say McKelvin (solves our need at CB and KR, so he'd be tough to pass up) and I am really high on Harvey. I can't see either of these guys falling that far, but some mock drafts have that happening.
Anyone that is pretty much a top 10 pick. Say for instance.....McKelvin or DRC. Although I don't think that Herm will draft a CB in the 1st round.

I think we'll have a really good shot at an OT with that pick.
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Here are my thoughts:

Gholston at 5, then take the BPA at 17. If Chris Williams is there, it's him. I would not spend the 17th pick on Clady...maybe on Albert.. If Williams is gone, they could easily get a guy like Devin Thomas or Rodgers-Cromartie, hell even Derrick Harvey.

Sam Baker and Carl Nicks would likely both be there at 35 to help your line, or if you can get a guy like Quentin Groves and have two badass motherfuckers to rush the passer. If for some reason Kentwan Balmer drops to 35, he's a possibility as well.
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we just better not take an offensive lineman at #5, none are going to be worth it
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Walter included the 7th round today. I'm not crazy about Coutu, but I love the Bowman pick:

210. Kansas City Chiefs: Brandon Coutu, K, Georgia
I still can't believe Carl Peterson drafted Justin Medlock over Mason Crosby. Well, not true - when considering his recent drafts, I can definitely believe it.

239. Kansas City Chiefs: Adarius Bowman, WR, Oklahoma State
The Chiefs need more receiving help, so why not take a shot here with the troubled Adarius Bowman?
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