Chiefs Possible Chiefs\Saints trade - Page 4

C-Mac · 04-25-2008, 09:22 AM

McShay's blog...

DE Chris Long will be the Chiefs' pick if he's available, but should he be off the board Kansas City will want to retreat. swapping first-round picks with New Orleans and bringing [Jamaal]Brown into the fold would be an attractive scenario, as the Chiefs could then opt for another offensive lineman at No. 10 or get a much better value on their preferred defensive end, Derrick Harvey. And don't forget that extra picks beyond the swap of first-rounders would likely be included as well, so this would be a hard deal for Kansas City to turn down.

**DaKCMan AP** · 04-25-2008, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by JBucc

So move down to ten, get a young pro bowl LT, take Albert at 10, Otah at 17, suddenly our O-line looks pretty damn good. Jus speculatin.

If we acquired Brown and drafted Albert we'd be better off taking someone other than Otah at 17.

beach tribe · 04-25-2008, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by dj56dt58

Im with you..then we could gram Cromartie at 10

Not to mention the last OT we got from NO worked out pretty well...

I like Cro, but he does not fit this D IMO.

He doesn't like to tackle. Pretty high pick for a cover 2 corner that shies away from contact.

dj56dt58 · 04-25-2008, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

I like Cro, but he does not fit this D IMO.

He doesn't like to tackle. Pretty high pick for a cover 2 corner that shies away from contact.

right..but playmaker nonetheless. Also you have to remember we would probably play more man and blitz more with younger more athletic corners

beach tribe · 04-25-2008, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by dj56dt58

right..but playmaker nonetheless. Also you have to remember we would probably play more man and blitz more with younger more athletic corners

I agree. I think he will be a good cover corner, but a 170lb guy doesn't help us on the field much, except on third down.............in the nickle.

I wish Flowers wasn't a ****in tard. he's the kinda guy we nned.

patteeu · 04-25-2008, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz

if the Saints can get Dorsey by moving up to our pick then we should just take Dorsey.

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Originally Posted by Rooster

Exactly.

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

**** the Saints, i'd rather us go after Dorsey

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

Yep. This makes zero sense.

I bet that the thinking behind this is that New Orleans, having failed to move up high enough to get Dorsey, would be looking to move up high enough to take Sedrick Ellis.

StcChief · 04-25-2008, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

I like Cro, but he does not fit this D IMO.

He doesn't like to tackle. Pretty high pick for a cover 2 corner that shies away from contact.

yeah... he must be related to Neon Dieon.

tomahawk kid · 04-25-2008, 10:43 AM

Is Brown worth a shit?

Pitt Gorilla · 04-25-2008, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

After this year, Chiefs fans will have their own version of the Jets draft day Youtube...

The meltdown this year is going to be priceless...

Time to pop up some popcorn, this is going to be good!

I was thinking earlier this week that a good one could be put together already:

The Kansas City Chiefs select...Trezelle Jenkins
...Rashaan Sheehee
...Eric "The Roadgrader" Downing
...Junior Siavi
...Chris "Bigfoot" Wilson
...William Bartee

One could edit in Jets fans looking distraught after such picks. It's painful just typing it.

Sure-Oz · 04-25-2008, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

I bet that the thinking behind this is that New Orleans, having failed to move up high enough to get Dorsey, would be looking to move up high enough to take Sedrick Ellis.

I heard they covet him as well, id rather have ellis also but if they have that OL and another pick added to #10 that cant be resisted

Basileus777 · 04-25-2008, 10:50 AM

I'd do that trade in a second, but I'm not buying that the Saints are stupid enough to trade him for that. Brown is better than Jake Long. Maybe Brown and a 2nd or 3rd for the 5th pick, that makes more sense.

CupidStunt · 04-25-2008, 10:50 AM

Some are high on here. Jammal Brown and the No. 10 pick SMOKES whoever is available at No. 5. And I'm one of Dorsey's biggest fans. We couldn't possibly dream of raping the Saints like that.

Sure-Oz · 04-25-2008, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by lj4mvp

Some are high on here. Jammal Brown and the No. 10 pick SMOKES whoever is available at No. 5. And I'm one of Dorsey's biggest fans. We couldn't possibly dream of raping the Saints like that.

We raped them on Roaf so why not?

StcChief · 04-25-2008, 10:55 AM

This could be a "butts in the seats" move by Saints since Dorsey is an LSU Tiger....

DT Fan · 04-25-2008, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SithCeNtZ

Am I the only one who kind of likes the deal? I don't think we could go wrong either way, but picking up a sure thing at tackle while still getting the 10th pick plus whatever other picks they throw in is a pretty good deal. I wouldn't be upset if we took it.

Yeah, I like this deal a lot too. So much so that it actually makes me nervous that the Saints would be willing to part with Brown.

If this is real, it means one of two things: 1) After playing without Brown for part of last year while he was hurt, they feel like they have enough depth for their offense to survive without him so they might as well go get one of the two DTs who they love and feel like they desperately need; 2) They don't like Brown's attitude or work ethic or something and figure he won't rebound to his pro-bowl form so they might as well trade him now.

I'm not sure we could get Harvey at 10 since I think the Bengals pluck him at 9, but even if he's gone, you could potentially land Albert at 10 and one of the top corners at 17 (or vice-versa) so you wind up securing two spots on the O-Line and CB in the first round. Then, you could focus on D-Line and WR in rounds 2 and three.

keg in kc · 04-25-2008, 11:02 AM

I bet if this deal happens, it happens with St. Louis at 2, and not us.

04-25-2008, 09:22 AM
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