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Old 04-25-2008, 08:47 PM   #1
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You didn't notice that everything on the team is a need eh?
Except LT. About a month ago when the debate was J. Long vs. Dorsey/Ellis, you told everyone it would be stupid to take a 10yr. answer at LT based on out need for the position. You act all condescending on the subject only to change your tune a month later.
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Old 04-25-2008, 08:51 PM   #2
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Except LT. About a month ago when the debate was J. Long vs. Dorsey/Ellis, you told everyone it would be stupid to take a 10yr. answer at LT based on out need for the position. You act all condescending on the subject only to change your tune a month later.
Wow...

Did you ever think that just maybe Dorsey, Ellis, Gholston, and Chris Long are better players than a guy who is best suited to play right tackle??
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Old 04-25-2008, 08:52 PM   #3
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Wow...

Did you ever think that just maybe Dorsey, Ellis, Gholston, and Chris Long are better players than a guy who is best suited to play right tackle??
He doesn't have good comprehension skills, he tends to misinterpret things.
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Old 04-25-2008, 08:56 PM   #4
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Wow...

Did you ever think that just maybe Dorsey, Ellis, Gholston, and Chris Long are better players than a guy who is best suited to play right tackle??
What does this have to do with me? I Don't think Dorsey or Long will be available, and not many people did back then either. I would like Ellis myself, but definitely not Gholston.

It's a "moo" point now anyways, just thought I'd call Mecca on his hypocrisies.
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Old 04-25-2008, 09:00 PM   #5
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What does this have to do with me? I Don't think Dorsey or Long will be available, and not many people did back then either. I would like Ellis myself, but definitely not Gholston.

It's a "moo" point now anyways, just thought I'd call Mecca on his hypocrisies.
The fact that you don't like Gholston makes me feel a little better about his prospects.
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Wow...

Did you ever think that just maybe Dorsey, Ellis, Gholston, and Chris Long are better players than a guy who is best suited to play right tackle??
We will see how this all plays out but IMHO Jake Long is the best player in this draft. Listening to other teams in the Top 5 they all had Long rated #1 on their board.
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We will see how this all plays out but IMHO Jake Long is the best player in this draft. Listening to other teams in the Top 5 they all had Long rated #1 on their board.
Long and Long being high on boards has to do with the fact that they are "safe" picks, and guys like Phil Savage have admitted as much. You don't win championships with safe picks, though. If you were looking at talent, you'd find that Gholston, McFadden, Dorsey and Ellis were higher rated players.

I just feel like those guys are B+ pros at best. Gholston is the kind of guy who can change an entire game.
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Long and Long being high on boards has to do with the fact that they are "safe" picks, and guys like Phil Savage have admitted as much. You don't win championships with safe picks, though. If you were looking at talent, you'd find that Gholston, McFadden, Dorsey and Ellis were higher rated players.

I just feel like those guys are B+ pros at best. Gholston is the kind of guy who can change an entire game.
I personally feel that Jake Long will play longer than any of those players and probably will be a starter for 10+ years. If that is safe that is ok with me. I would love the Chiefs to have a LT they can depend on for the next 10 years.

By saying that I am not knocking any of those guys because I like each one except maybe McFadden. I just feel Jake Long is a little bit better.
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Gholston is the kind of guy who can change an entire game.
You see...you are the only one I hear saying this...all the guys who get paid to say stuff, say he disappears. That he is a workout warrior, and hell of a highlight film...but when you watch a few games, he has a tendency to get swallowed up and disappear.

I realize talking head are just that, but...I still think they have an edge on most all of us.
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Except LT. About a month ago when the debate was J. Long vs. Dorsey/Ellis, you told everyone it would be stupid to take a 10yr. answer at LT based on out need for the position. You act all condescending on the subject only to change your tune a month later.
I said I didn't feel Jake Long was good enough to warrant a top 5 pick and I still don't....

I don't think OL are worth top 5 picks unless they are absolute 100% locks with no flaws.
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