My grade of our first day: C+

Hoover · 04-26-2008, 10:18 PM

Dude I shocked to see this from you of all people.

Dorsey was a great pick, a franchise pick that you don't get to make very often. I don't know why you are so down on Albert. I look at it this way, Steve Hutchison was drafted with the 17th pick in 2001. He was strictly a guard. So we grab Albert at 15, and if he is strictly a guard I think the pick still has a lot of value. Now I believe he will be a great LT. Bringing him in at LT next to Brian Waters gives us a huge left side of the line to pass protect and to carve out holes for LJ. And don't forget that means we upgraded at RT by moving McIntosh over there.

We swapped 3rd round pick (Moved down 10 spots) and gave them a 5th.

I'd rather have Albert over William, Clady, Otah and the rest of the bunch.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 04-26-2008, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

Dude I shocked to see this from you of all people.

Dorsey was a great pick, a franchise pick that you don't get to make very often. I don't know why you are so down on Albert. I look at it this way, Steve Hutchison was drafted with the 17th pick in 2001. He was strictly a guard. So we grab Albert at 15, and if he is strictly a guard I think the pick still has a lot of value. Now I believe he will be a great LT. Bringing him in at LT next to Brian Waters gives us a huge left side of the line to pass protect and to carve out holes for LJ. And don't forget that means we upgraded at RT by moving McIntosh over there.

We swapped 3rd round pick (Moved down 10 spots) and gave them a 5th.

I'd rather have Albert over William, Clady, Otah and the rest of the bunch.

Exactly the point I was going to make. Why is Shaun Alexander not a Seahawk anymore? Because they let Hutchinson get away. It was a colossal **** up by the Hawks. Albert is a no lose situation IMO. He either works out as a solid LT, or probably becomes the best G in the game in the next 5 years. Basically, we got heads on a 2 headed quarter. WPI is free to use that last line and claim it as their own.

**Tribal Warfare** · 04-26-2008, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Flopnuts

Albert is a no lose situation IMO. He either works out as a solid LT, or probably becomes the best G in the game in the next 5 years. Basically, we got heads on a 2 headed quarter. WPI is free to use that last line and claim it as their own.

I still want Oher on the 2009 KC Chief squad though

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 04-26-2008, 11:24 PM

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I still want Oher on the 2009 KC Chief squad though

Me too. Slide McIntosh or Albert back in and have the offensive line this franchise has been known for.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 04-26-2008, 11:28 PM

milkman · 04-27-2008, 06:17 AM

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Me too. Slide McIntosh or Albert back in and have the offensive line this franchise has been known for.

When I thought we'd be might be getting Jake Long (early in the offseason) or Ryan Clady/Jeff Otah, I was all over the idea of Oher in '09.

But I have been pimping Albert as an OT for a while now, though I didn't want to reach for him at 5.

I think he's going to be the best LT, along with Chris Williams, in this draft.
A potential perennial pro bowler.

That, combined with my belief that Herb Taylor is going to surprise most here and prove to be a really good RT, going into next year's draft, I won't be salivating over the prospect of drafting Oher like I would have been otherwise.

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Don417 · 04-27-2008, 09:46 AM

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I still want Oher on the 2009 KC Chief squad though

Dont worry. With the number one pick next year he'll be available. Trouble is, The King will probably draft another S.

Direckshun · 04-27-2008, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

Dude I shocked to see this from you of all people.

Dorsey was a great pick, a franchise pick that you don't get to make very often. I don't know why you are so down on Albert. I look at it this way, Steve Hutchison was drafted with the 17th pick in 2001. He was strictly a guard. So we grab Albert at 15, and if he is strictly a guard I think the pick still has a lot of value. Now I believe he will be a great LT. Bringing him in at LT next to Brian Waters gives us a huge left side of the line to pass protect and to carve out holes for LJ. And don't forget that means we upgraded at RT by moving McIntosh over there.

We swapped 3rd round pick (Moved down 10 spots) and gave them a 5th.

I'd rather have Albert over William, Clady, Otah and the rest of the bunch.

I don't disagree about Dorsey.

Albert's the big risk here.

It'd be one thing if we dropped our 17th on him, which I still wouldn't have been thrilled about doing for a guard.

But if we traded away an additional pick, and swapped thirds, for a guard, Albert would have been a mistake. The only way this is a good pick is if he starts OT on Day One (hopefully LT, but that's wishful thinking), and does well.

milkman · 04-27-2008, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

I don't disagree about Dorsey.

Albert's the big risk here.

It'd be one thing if we dropped our 17th on him, which I still wouldn't have been thrilled about doing for a guard.

But if we traded away an additional pick, and swapped thirds, for a guard, Albert would have been a mistake. The only way this is a good pick is if he starts OT on Day One (hopefully LT, but that's wishful thinking), and does well.

Well, just my opinion, but my money says he's starting at LT day one, and anchors the line for the next 10+ years.

But, given that I was pimping him as an OT before anyone, I imagine that opinion doesn't surprise you.

Direckshun · 04-27-2008, 01:00 PM

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Well, just my opinion, but my money says he's starting at LT day one, and anchors the line for the next 10+ years.

But, given that I was pimping him as an OT before anyone, I imagine that opinion doesn't surprise you.

It doesn't surprise me, and **** me, if you're right about that I can totally vouch for your rightness and my wrongness.

If he does start LT on opening day, that alone justifies the pick and the trade-up for the pick.

But I wouldn't trade for a guard almost ever, especially in the first. So I hope he's at OT, otherwise we just committed a Chiefs-like blunder the likes of which I'll scorn about until you people hate me anew.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-27-2008, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

I don't disagree about Dorsey.

Albert's the big risk here.

It'd be one thing if we dropped our 17th on him, which I still wouldn't have been thrilled about doing for a guard.

But if we traded away an additional pick, and swapped thirds, for a guard, Albert would have been a mistake. The only way this is a good pick is if he starts OT on Day One (hopefully LT, but that's wishful thinking), and does well.

Bullshit. Albert is in no way, shape or form a "risk".

WTF are you smokin'? Seriously?

The guy AT WORST is Will Shields, jr. He'll start for 10 years at right guard and go to multiple Pro Bowls. At best he's a stud left tackle who will start for the next 10 years. He's athletic, has great feet, a passion for football and is excellent in space.

Are you telling me that you wouldn't pick Will Shields at #15 overall?

JFC.

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Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-2191821	Dude I shocked to see this from you of all people. Dorsey was a great pick, a franchise pick that you don't get to make very often. I don't know why you are so down on Albert. I look at it this way, Steve Hutchison was drafted with the 17th pick in 2001. He was strictly a guard. So we grab Albert at 15, and if he is strictly a guard I think the pick still has a lot of value. Now I believe he will be a great LT. Bringing him in at LT next to Brian Waters gives us a huge left side of the line to pass protect and to carve out holes for LJ. And don't forget that means we upgraded at RT by moving McIntosh over there. We swapped 3rd round pick (Moved down 10 spots) and gave them a 5th. I'd rather have Albert over William, Clady, Otah and the rest of the bunch.
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