Would you have Drafted differently?

[Mecca]

Dan Connor doesn't fit the Chiefs defense at all........I don't know why it is so hard for people to understand that.

To play MLB in a cover to you have to be able to drop deep in coverage and be good at it, that is his biggest weakness. Connor isn't a 3 down LB either, he's a 2 down thumper.

Basically picking Connor would have been taking his biggest weakness and asking him to do it all the time as his job.

[PHOG]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Dan Connor doesn't fit the Chiefs defense at all........I don't know why it is so hard for people to understand that.

Oh, my bad ...well he sure had some of these mockers fooled, if he wasn't taken 'til the 3rd. I didn't see 1 mock that didn't have him as late 1st early 2nd.

Besides, I want one of the MLBs in next years draft. And I don't give a **** if they fit the cover 2 or not.

[B_Ambuehl]

I was EXTREMELY upset about the 3rd round....the first 2 picks had me throwing shit across the room. DaJuan Morgan quieted me down a bit but those first 2 picks were throways. Jamal Charles type guys are luxuries which we can't afford and the TE goes against everything that Herm preaches about the draft....He hasn't produced, has had more surgeries than touchdowns, and if he doesn't run a 4.6 he's more of a 7th round guy.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

I was EXTREMELY upset about the 3rd round....the first 2 picks had me throwing shit across the room. DaJuan Morgan quieted me down a bit but those first 2 picks were throways. Jamal Charles type guys are luxuries which we can't afford and the TE goes against everything that Herm preaches about the draft....He hasn't produced, has had more surgeries than touchdowns, and if he doesn't run a 4.6 he's more of a 7th round guy.

that's where I disagree, you can never have enough talent...and Charles was clearly a better talent than any OL left at that point...

RBs get injured all time...and this guy gives a home run threat we lacked with potential to grow...

i love that more every day

[B_Ambuehl]

That's the same excuse Okland would give for their decision to acquire a team full of high priced free agents and combine superstars at every position except for defenisve and offensive line. "You can never have enough speed or talent at the skill positions".

More often then not that approach gets you nowhere. What yo udont hear about is how New England traditionally drafts more offensive lineman year in and year out than any team - there is something to be learned from that approach.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

What yo udont hear about is how New England traditionally drafts more offensive lineman year in and year out than any team - there is something to be learned from that approach.

The Chiefs have drafted as many or more offensive linemen as the Patriots have over the last 5 years.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

That's the same excuse Okland would give for their decision to acquire a team full of high priced free agents and combine superstars at every position except for defenisve and offensive line. "You can never have enough speed or talent at the skill positions".

More often then not that approach gets you nowhere. What yo udont hear about is how New England traditionally drafts more offensive lineman year in and year out than any team - there is something to be learned from that approach.

where in my post did I advocate signing "high priced FA" and "combine superstars"?

are you high?

[ct]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

that's where I disagree, you can never have enough talent...and Charles was clearly a better talent than any OL left at that point...

RBs get injured all time...and this guy gives a home run threat we lacked with potential to grow...

i love that more every day

Totally agree!! Nobody knows what LJ is gonna look like when we hit TC. Anybody willing to roll the dice that LJ is fine, and risk a full season of Kolby Smith as a feature workhorse is friggin nuts!!

[milkman]

Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

I was EXTREMELY upset about the 3rd round....the first 2 picks had me throwing shit across the room. DaJuan Morgan quieted me down a bit but those first 2 picks were throways. Jamal Charles type guys are luxuries which we can't afford and the TE goes against everything that Herm preaches about the draft....He hasn't produced, has had more surgeries than touchdowns, and if he doesn't run a 4.6 he's more of a 7th round guy.

I love the Charles pick, but I have to agree with you on Cottam, that was against the philosphy that Herman ****ing Edwards preaches.

That was a head scratcher for sure, and I would have gone with Zuttah.

[penchief]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Dan Connor doesn't fit the Chiefs defense at all........I don't know why it is so hard for people to understand that.

To play MLB in a cover to you have to be able to drop deep in coverage and be good at it, that is his biggest weakness. Connor isn't a 3 down LB either, he's a 2 down thumper.

Basically picking Connor would have been taking his biggest weakness and asking him to do it all the time as his job.

Dan Connor played the pass extremely well in college. He had way more interceptions and passes defended than Rivers did overall and statistically he did better each year, whether he was playing inside or out. Also, his ability to play both the middle and outside made him more likely to be a three down linebacker.

JMO.

[Brock]

NFL teams pretty much told you which one is better. And way, way better is their verdict.

[penchief]

Originally Posted by Brock

NFL teams pretty much told you which one is better. And way, way better is their verdict.

I'm not claiming Connor is better than Rivers. I'm asking Mecca to explain how Connor is a two down back when he appeared to play the pass very well. And the statistics back that up. So did his play on the field.

I thought he would have been a good fit.

[BigChiefFan]

Originally Posted by penchief

I'm not claiming Connor is better than Rivers. I'm asking Mecca to explain how Connor is a two down back when he appeared to play the pass very well. And the statistics back that up. So did his play on the field.

I thought he would have been a good fit.

Connor could play cover two. Mecca is FOS on this one. This is taken from a recent article...."The Chiefs also considered Penn State linebacker Dan Connor at the 73rd spot but felt they were deeper at that position than running back." Hmmm.
Link...

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10805234/2

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Connor could play cover two. Mecca is FOS on this one. This is taken from a recent article...."The Chiefs also considered Penn State linebacker Dan Connor at the 73rd spot but felt they were deeper at that position than running back." Hmmm.
Link...

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10805234/2

Lacks fluid hips to turn and run in man coverage....A little rigid and mechanical..

That's what I want in my cover 2 MLB who is basically asked to cover 30 yards pretty consistently in pass coverage.

[Brock]

I doubt they were considering Conner as a MLB.