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Old 05-08-2008, 10:10 AM   #1
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I wouldn't be screaming about it if we had cheated our way to three super bowl victories. Quit your goddamn poor mouthing. You got over, congratulations.
I hope some day we find out exactly what they were used for, and what kind of competitive advantage, if any, it provided. I've never seen anything that would suggest that it gave much of one, but OTOH, if it didn't give any, then why do it?

Given that it seems nearly everyone in NFL coaching circles either did it themselves or knew that everyone else did it, I'm fairly convinced it didn't provide much of an edge -- or at least no more of an edge than other nefarious practices that go on such as Howard Mudd's infamous signal stealing efforts, etc.

Maybe someday we'll know for sure one way or the other.
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Old 05-08-2008, 10:53 AM   #2
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Given that it seems nearly everyone in NFL coaching circles either did it themselves or knew that everyone else did it, I'm fairly convinced it didn't provide much of an edge -- .
Where is your proof that "nearly everyone in the NFL coaching circles" did it themselves?
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Old 05-08-2008, 11:30 AM   #3
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Where is your proof that "nearly everyone in the NFL coaching circles" did it themselves?

That's only half my quote, isn't it.

I think many did it (not most, but many), and that those that didn't do it, knew that many others did. As proof I primarily cite Jimmy Johnson's statement that what the tape showed was the same as what he was taugh tto do by a Chiefs scout waay back when.

This wasn't some nefarious invention on Belichick's part.
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Old 05-08-2008, 11:32 AM   #4
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This wasn't some nefarious invention on Belichick's part.
Probably not. He should have just been more careful about disposing of the evidence and knowing who to trust.
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Probably not. He should have just been more careful about disposing of the evidence and knowing who to trust.

What he should have done was to STOP when the NFL issued written requirements that he do so. That was really, stunning stupid.
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