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Old 05-15-2008, 08:01 PM  
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Worst Security Breach in US History?

Chinese Counterfeit Cisco Routers

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FBI: China may use counterfeit Cisco routers to penetrate U.S. networks
An FBI presentation states that China has counterfeited Cisco Systems network routers and may be using the equipment to penetrate U.S. government and private sector computer networks.

Federal authorities in February seized some 400 counterfeit Cisco Systems knockoffs worth $76 million. The equipment included routers, switches, gigabit interface converters and WAN interface cards.
Among the purchasers of the fake equipment were the U.S. Naval Academy, U.S. Naval Air Warfare Center, U.S. Naval Undersea Warfare Center, U.S. Air Base at Spangdahelm, Germany, the Bonneville Power Administration, General Services Administration, and the defense contractor Raytheon, which makes key missile and weapons systems.

The FBI briefing slides on the case stated that while there are “intelligence gaps” on why the Chinese made the counterfeit equipment it could have been for profit or as part of a state-sponsored operation.
Additionally the scope of the Chinese counterfeit equipment may extend beyond routers to include fake IT equipment such as PCs and printers.
Under a section titled “The Threat,” the FBI described the effort as “IT subversion/supply chain attack” that could “cause immediate or premature system failure during usage.”
The counterfeit equipment also could be used to “gain access to otherwise secure systems” and to “weaken cryptographic systems.”
The briefing slide said the Chinese information warfare efforts require “intimate access to target systems.”
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Old 05-15-2008, 08:04 PM   #2
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Old 05-15-2008, 08:05 PM   #3
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Old 05-15-2008, 08:13 PM   #4
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it was bound to happen since Cisco outsourced all the R&D to China.
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Old 05-15-2008, 08:14 PM   #5
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China, Russia & several ME countries VS. America & the western world.

Not if, but when.
I don't see Russia as a whole in that group, now some nutcase old school Pinko leaders yes.. But the people on the whole, no..


And I am sure we are doing the exact same thing..


Of course this should make the government to buy American made and cut down on the risk greatly..
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Old 05-15-2008, 08:25 PM   #6
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Old 05-15-2008, 08:40 PM   #7
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Old 05-15-2008, 08:48 PM   #8
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Old 05-15-2008, 09:11 PM   #9
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China, Russia & several ME countries VS. America & the western world.

Not if, but when.
China and Russia trust each other even less than they trust us.
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Old 05-15-2008, 09:24 PM   #10
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Lol...God forbid we find out what USA hacks over there...
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Old 05-15-2008, 09:28 PM   #11
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China and Russia trust each other even less than they trust us.
Absolutely correct. Their mutual hatred goes back a long ways.
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Old 05-15-2008, 09:30 PM   #12
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China and Russia trust each other even less than they trust us.
I kinda doubt that, why did they just conduct the biggest joint military exercise in their history last year???
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Old 05-15-2008, 09:33 PM   #13
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I kinda doubt that, why did they just conduct the biggest joint military exercise in their history last year???


So they could spy on each other?
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Old 05-15-2008, 09:35 PM   #14
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So they could spy on each other?
Heh, thats prolly true to an extent.

But i bet that if push came to shove, they'd side up.
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Old 05-15-2008, 09:35 PM   #15
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I see wars on different fronts, Russia/Iran and against China over Taiwan, but I don't think they'll be directly allied.

I also don't think we're strong enough to fight wars on two fronts simultaneously, while still protecting our own shores. It's going to be a tough balance.
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