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Old 05-16-2008, 02:29 PM  
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Why isn't off-the-ball hack-a-Shaq totally illegal?
I was watching the Spurs play the Suns last month, and late in the game they just sent guys at O'Neal to foul him, even if he wasn't even on the offensive half of the court yet. Shaq would juke and boogy, trying to get away from them. It was every bit as ridiculous as it sounds.

I thought there was some sort of rule there, and today I run across this on Wikipedia, talking about Wilt Chamberlain:

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This led to the spectacle of virtually an entire other contest being held away from the ball and almost completely outside of the basketball game being played, as Chamberlain essentially played a de facto game of tag with defenders, attempting to run from and dodge them as they chased him trying to foul him.

The NBA decided to address this undesirable situation by instituting a new rule regarding off-the-ball fouls — that is, committing a personal foul against an offensive player who neither has the ball nor is making an effort to obtain it. The new rule stated that if the defensive team commits an off-the-ball foul within the last two minutes of the game, the offensive team would be allowed to keep possession of the ball after the awarding of either one or two free throws.
Why only the last two minutes? Isn't this tactic ridiculous at any time?
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:57 PM   #16
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I was watching the Spurs play the Suns last month, and late in the game they just sent guys at O'Neal to foul him, even if he wasn't even on the offensive half of the court yet. Shaq would juke and boogy, trying to get away from them. It was every bit as ridiculous as it sounds.

Why didnt Shaq learn to shoot a free throw 15 years ago?? Teams have tried the hack-a-shaq his entire career.
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Old 05-16-2008, 03:00 PM   #17
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that's why women's basketball is so much more entertaining
Is that why nobody watches the WNBA? I can't watch women's basketball, its just such an inferior product. Even highschool men are more entertaining. Basketball is so dependent on athleticism that watching a bunch of slow small women attempts layups isn't entertaining. Tennis is ok though.
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Old 05-16-2008, 03:02 PM   #18
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Is that why nobody watches the WNBA? I can't watch women's basketball, its just such an inferior product. Even highschool men are more entertaining. Basketball is so dependent on athleticism that watching a bunch of slow small women attempts layups isn't entertaining.
Your un-PC response wont be tolerated...

But damn, thats hilarious!
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Old 05-16-2008, 03:41 PM   #19
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Old 05-16-2008, 03:59 PM   #20
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Unfortunately hack-a-Shaq is a legit strategy that works, but it makes for absolutely awful basketball. A rule change is needed. Oh and make egregious flopping a technical foul as well, especially dead-ball flopping. I wouldn't mind if they gave away Ts for too much complaining to the refs either.

All of this shit takes away from the game. Because of the way games are officiated, half the league flops and then bitches to the refs after every play.
Yeah, same with kicking the ball (after a score) and making it look like an accident, just to slow down a `fast-break team.` Sound familiar KU? Sorry had to ... That has been bothering for a while now.
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Old 05-16-2008, 04:21 PM   #21
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Just to be specific it is illegal but you want a Int foul on top of it?
Its pretty obvious its intentional. Call it what it is.
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Old 05-16-2008, 04:26 PM   #22
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Unfortunately hack-a-Shaq is a legit strategy that works, but it makes for absolutely awful basketball. A rule change is needed. Oh and make egregious flopping a technical foul as well, especially dead-ball flopping. I wouldn't mind if they gave away Ts for too much complaining to the refs either.

All of this shit takes away from the game. Because of the way games are officiated, half the league flops and then bitches to the refs after every play.
Legit? Certainly. Works? Not really...at least in Shaq's case.

The Blazers tried doing it years ago, and ended up losing every game they employed the strategy. This is the reason that teams didn't Hack-a-Shaq every game.
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Yeah, same with kicking the ball (after a score) and making it look like an accident, just to slow down a `fast-break team.` Sound familiar KU? Sorry had to ... That has been bothering for a while now.
Yeah, it's almost as bad as that phony ass flop.
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Old 05-16-2008, 05:46 PM   #24
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One of the reasons why I don't watch the NBA. It's turned into complete crap. You can't touch a guy in the lane without getting called for a foul. Teams fouling a bad free throw shooter in the first quarter in order to get him out of the game. These trash players getting called "great" by the morons on the TV because they can fly twenty feet down the court in order to get a foul called against the offensive player. It's embarrassing watching seven footers flop from the slightest touch. And yet you have to flop because it's the only way that the NBA allows you to play defense nowadays, because they call fouls on the slightest touch. The NBA is an abortion of what it used to be, and it sucks.
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