Picture of a ghost?

[little jacob]

if ghosts dont have physical bodies how can they reflect light to be captured on camera?

[Redrum_69]

Originally Posted by little jacob

if ghosts dont have physical bodies how can they reflect light to be captured on camera?

How do you know the reflective light isnt the ghosts medium and television crew taking pictures of us?

I mean think about it...what if we are ghosts in their world/plane/existence...since they are ghosts/shadows in ours existence. That would explain alot of things.

[little jacob]

Originally Posted by Redrum_69

How do you know the reflective light isnt the ghosts medium and television crew taking pictures of us?

I mean think about it...what if we are ghosts in their world/plane/existence...since they are ghosts/shadows in ours existence. That would explain alot of things.

that doesnt explain how something with no physical presence to reflect light can be seen by anything

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by little jacob

that doesnt explain how something with no physical presence to reflect light can be seen by anything

I can't explain it but I do know that the Stanford experiments with OBE's and the Monroe techniques revealed that you could see a spiritual body.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by little jacob

that doesnt explain how something with no physical presence to reflect light can be seen by anything

The same way you can't see X-rays. The same way a camera lense sees things your eyes don't.

What is physical? Who defined what physical is and what did they base that on? Did they analyze a "poltergeist" when they defined the word physical?

Dude science is nothing more than an explanation of what we think we already know.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by petegz28

The same way you can't see X-rays. The same way a camera lense sees things your eyes don't.

What is physical? Who defined what physical is and what did they base that on? Did they analyze a "poltergeist" when they defined the word physical?

Dude science is nothing more than an explanation of what we think we already know.

X-rays are easily detectable by many means other than human eyes. Something that has never been done involving ghosts.

And science has one advantage that you're grossly overlooking. Testability. Being able to duplicate results in a controlled environment. Another something that has never been done involving ghosts.

Through time and science, all things are revealed. People have been trying for thousands of years to prove the existence of ghosts, and have come up with nothing but grainy videos and blurry pictures. We can map the human genome, but we can't prove the existence of ghosts? Why has there been zero progress in the area of paranormal when we've progressed in nearly every other area area of human existence?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by KC Fish

X-rays are easily detectable by many means other than human eyes. Something that has never been done involving ghosts.

And science has one advantage that you're grossly overlooking. Testability. Being able to duplicate results in a controlled environment. Another something that has never been done involving ghosts.

Through time and science, all things are revealed. People have been trying for thousands of years to prove the existence of ghosts, and have come up with nothing but grainy videos and blurry pictures. We can map the human genome, but we can't prove the existence of ghosts? Why has there been zero progress in the area of paranormal when we've progressed in nearly every other area area of human existence?

DUH! I was merely making an analogy. Is it possible that because of our refusal to accept ethereal beings that we have not made any real efforts to discovering ways to prove the existence of a ghost? And when it seems someone does a million people like you come running calling them crazy or liars or telling them it was really swamp gas trapped in a weather balloon.

Science is nothing more than figuring out how God did\does things. How many millions of $'s more have been spent learning to map said human genome comapared to finding ghosts?

We progressed in human existence cause we are human. DUH!

[Fish]

Originally Posted by petegz28

DUH! I was merely making an analogy. Is it possible that because of our refusal to accept ethereal beings that we have not made any real efforts to discovering ways to prove the existence of a ghost? And when it seems someone does a million people like you come running calling them crazy or liars or telling them it was really swamp gas trapped in a weather balloon.

Your idea on the refusal to accept ethereal beings doesn't hold up whatsoever. Cameras and video cameras don't have these preconceived human notions. Why aren't there obvious pictures and videos showing all these spirits? Something obvious that isn't easily reproduced? Why can't spirits be detected by any known method that can be replicated?

And efforts have been made. Since humans began explaining their surroundings efforts have been made by people who believe in it. They all have failed.

Originally Posted by petegz28

Science is nothing more than figuring out how God did\does things. How many millions of $'s more have been spent learning to map said human genome comapared to finding ghosts?

We progressed in human existence cause we are human. DUH!

You're asking why we as a society haven't put as much money into finding ghosts as we have in biology?

Same reason we aren't spending millions to find unicorns or leprechauns.

[SithCeNtZ]

Originally Posted by petegz28

DUH! I was merely making an analogy. Is it possible that because of our refusal to accept ethereal beings that we have not made any real efforts to discovering ways to prove the existence of a ghost? And when it seems someone does a million people like you come running calling them crazy or liars or telling them it was really swamp gas trapped in a weather balloon.

Science is nothing more than figuring out how God did\does things. How many millions of $'s more have been spent learning to map said human genome comapared to finding ghosts?

We progressed in human existence cause we are human. DUH!

No. The thing about science is, if you can be made famous for it, someone will attempt to figure it out. If someone could actually prove the existence of a "ghost", they would win the Nobel Prize and it would be considered one of the greatest discoveries in human history. With all of that on the line, don't you think someone would have gone after it by now? What about all of the ghost hunter shows? All they need is some repeatable actions to produce a ghost and they would make millions. Why haven't they done that yet? Lack of trying? Did they just not want the fame and millions of dollars? The offer is, and always has been, on the table: Make a sitution that can consistently turn out a ghost in some way shape or form and you become famous. To say that people ignore that offer just because their parents told them it wasn't possible completely ignores how man has acted in its history. If the money is there, people will follow.

I think ghosts are alot like psychics. Many people claim to have had a psychic reading that was unexplainable and swear psychics are for real, and yet why hasn't anyone become rich beyond their wildest dreams if it were real? If you were a real psychic, wouldn't you be calling up every newspaper in town to prove your abilities? People would pay any price to have their questions answered, to communicate with the dead, see the future etc etc...and yet no one does it. The fact they leave money on the table tells me they know they would be found out if they ever went prime time. Same situation with ghosts. The money is there to be had, why has no one come forward with anything?

[Valiant]

Originally Posted by little jacob

that doesnt explain how something with no physical presence to reflect light can be seen by anything

Heat does not really have a physical presence, but light can reflect off of it..

It is possible that the physical presence is very small into this world and that is the reason why it is very rare to see or capture..

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Valiant

Heat does not really have a physical presence, but light can reflect off of it..

It is possible that the physical presence is very small into this world and that is the reason why it is very rare to see or capture..

Too add to that, there just my be a form of physical existence we still don't know jack shit about.


I get so sick of people thinking we know it all about everything.

Seems to me wasn't long ago people thought the world was flat too.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Valiant

Heat does not really have a physical presence, but light can reflect off of it..

It is possible that the physical presence is very small into this world and that is the reason why it is very rare to see or capture..

Light reflects off of heat??

How so? Please explain. I seem to recall heat being a form of energy.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by KC Fish

Light reflects off of heat??

How so? Please explain. I seem to recall heat being a form of energy.

You're a piece of work dude.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

You're a piece of work dude.

Feel free to prove otherwise...... I'll gladly listen to your rebuttal and respectfully discuss the subject.

But I'm going to point out a camera strap or a silly physics misconception when I see it. Prove me wrong and I will gladly admit to it.

[Valiant]

Originally Posted by KC Fish

Light reflects off of heat??

How so? Please explain. I seem to recall heat being a form of energy.

Yes light can reflect off of heat.. You are the one that wanted proof that you can get an image of something without a physical body.. Heat does not have a physical body unless you want to qualify atoms and molecules as that.. Of course if you agree to that then everything has a physical body and you are proved wrong again..

Of course it seems you are more concerned about looking like a douche then anything..

And I agree that that is a camera strap.. The church video is probably some church ceremony where they have a flag on a pole.. And the OP picture looks to be a time lapsed picture..