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Old 07-11-2008, 09:13 AM   #1
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We have to work double hard at almost everything from speech to grades to appearance to even working twice as hard to prove we're just as responsible or competent as our white counterparts. Why? Because we're stereotyped as being dumb, low lives that are incapable of intellect or intelligence.
I don't understand this. You have to work twice as hard because minorities are stereotyped?
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:48 AM   #2
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I don't understand this. You have to work twice as hard because minorities are stereotyped?
Yes... if you look at it from a minority's perspective instead of your "I have black friends" perspective you'll see what I'm talking about.
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:52 AM   #3
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Yes... if you look at it from a minority's perspective instead of your "I have black friends" perspective you'll see what I'm talking about.
I can't. Perhaps you could give some examples of how minorities have to work twice as hard because of stereotypes?
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:58 AM   #4
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I can't. Perhaps you could give some examples of how minorities have to work twice as hard because of stereotypes?
Just trust me on that one.
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Old 07-11-2008, 10:00 AM   #5
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Just trust me on that one.
I do trust you, but I think some examples would be beneficial.
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Old 07-11-2008, 10:04 AM   #6
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I do trust you, but I think some examples would be beneficial.
Truthfully, I don't feel like giving examples to be judged by you and others of their validity. We feel whites are fed silver spoons from birth while we have to work hard for everything we get. You're (not you) born in the network of the good ol boy. You KNOW the inner circles while more than likely we have to start from scratch as we're usually first generation corporate employees.

All the while you're (not you) bitching about 1-2% of QUALIFIED minorities getting a job over whites.

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Old 07-11-2008, 10:08 AM   #7
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Old 07-11-2008, 10:08 AM   #8
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Truthfully, I don't feel like giving examples to be judged by you and others of their validity. We feel whites are fed silver spoons from birth while we have to work hard for everything we get.
Wow. You've got some serious issues.
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Old 07-11-2008, 10:11 AM   #9
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Truthfully, I don't feel like giving examples to be judged by you and others of their validity. We feel whites are fed silver spoons from birth while we have to work hard for everything we get. You're (not you) born in the network of the good ol boy. You KNOW the inner circles while more than likely we have to start from scratch as we're usually first generation corporate employees.

All the while you're (not you) bitching about 1-2% of QUALIFIED minorities getting a job over whites.

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While I absolutely believe in White privilege...
I have to debunk the notion that they've all been silver spooned.
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Old 07-11-2008, 10:12 AM   #10
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Truthfully, I don't feel like giving examples to be judged by you and others of their validity. We feel whites are fed silver spoons from birth while we have to work hard for everything we get. You're (not you) born in the network of the good ol boy. You KNOW the inner circles while more than likely we have to start from scratch as we're usually first generation corporate employees.

All the while you're (not you) bitching about 1-2% of QUALIFIED minorities getting a job over whites.

~The good ol boy network is the reason AA is in place.
Interesting analogy. I think that has a lot more to do with economic status than ethnic background.
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Old 07-11-2008, 10:35 AM   #11
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Truthfully, I don't feel like giving examples to be judged by you and others of their validity. We feel whites are fed silver spoons from birth while we have to work hard for everything we get. You're (not you) born in the network of the good ol boy. You KNOW the inner circles while more than likely we have to start from scratch as we're usually first generation corporate employees.

All the while you're (not you) bitching about 1-2% of QUALIFIED minorities getting a job over whites.

~The good ol boy network is the reason AA is in place.
Hate to break it to you, but MOST PEOPLE, white or black, are born with JACK, (like me...Nothing.) and have to work very hard to get anything.
I have lived in many cities in this country, and there is no doubt in my mind that the playing field in areas with opportunities for the everyday man like you, and I(not the top 1%), is level. Under qualified people are given jobs in these fields when is not necessary. There are plenty of qualified minorities to fill these positions, but I don't think they bother narrowing them down because they just know they need x amount of minorities. I'm pretty sure, having lived in South Fla. this long, that it is mandatory for govenrment establishments here to hire x amount of Haitians. Most of them don't give a **** about anything, and there are plenty of people around here that deserve those jobs. Most of them african americans.
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Old 07-11-2008, 10:41 AM   #12
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Truthfully, I don't feel like giving examples to be judged by you and others of their validity. We feel whites are fed silver spoons from birth while we have to work hard for everything we get. You're (not you) born in the network of the good ol boy. You KNOW the inner circles while more than likely we have to start from scratch as we're usually first generation corporate employees.

All the while you're (not you) bitching about 1-2% of QUALIFIED minorities getting a job over whites.

~The good ol boy network is the reason AA is in place.
To paraphrase Chris Rock:

In any given classroom, there will be a few great students, a few horrible students, and the rest fall in the middle. The problem is that the black C student damned sure isn't going to be heading to the front of any line of job applicants. You know what happens to the white C student? Well, he's the president of the USA.
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Old 07-12-2008, 01:08 PM   #13
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Truthfully, I don't feel like giving examples to be judged by you and others of their validity. We feel whites are fed silver spoons from birth while we have to work hard for everything we get. You're (not you) born in the network of the good ol boy. You KNOW the inner circles while more than likely we have to start from scratch as we're usually first generation corporate employees.

All the while you're (not you) bitching about 1-2% of QUALIFIED minorities getting a job over whites.

~The good ol boy network is the reason AA is in place.
I'll stop on this page--don't need to read further, because the usual suspects have shown up, and given the usual responses. I totally agree with you wut. At one time I believed otherwise and had a long conversation with a black friend about this subject. We both worked for the same company, but he challenged me that this Company, this branch based in good-ole-boy Columbia SC, would've EVER hired a black for sales, had it not been for AA ( and this guy was good). Add the impetus given by the progressive Sara Lee Corp who had purchased this Regional Distributor, and things were starting to change, but it took a catalyst. I know it hasn't been a perfect solution, but the way you must hear it portrayed by many Cracks, must really be an azz-chapper.
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Truthfully, I don't feel like giving examples to be judged by you and others of their validity. We feel whites are fed silver spoons from birth while we have to work hard for everything we get. You're (not you) born in the network of the good ol boy. You KNOW the inner circles while more than likely we have to start from scratch as we're usually first generation corporate employees.

All the while you're (not you) bitching about 1-2% of QUALIFIED minorities getting a job over whites.

~The good ol boy network is the reason AA is in place.
yeah, because all white people are born with ONE MILLION DOLLARS and a lifetime supply of MONEY. we don't have to work our asses off, our parents give us everything, and we're handed CEO jobs the second we turn 18 years old.
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