Science Science is so racist

wutamess · 07-11-2008, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by markk

I think that when the black kid came in looking for a job for the summer or part time, he felt like he had to impress or he wasn't going to get it.

Hence...

"We have to work double hard."
"Whites (in general) are born with silver spoons".

Thanks for your example. It's valid for all levels of emplyoment.

**Donger** · 07-11-2008, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by wutamess

Hence...

"We have to work double hard."
"Whites (in general) are born with silver spoons".

Thanks for your example.

But, the kid in this example didn't KNOW that he had to do that, right? He assumed that the white guy interviewing him expected him to doubly impressive because he's black?

wutamess · 07-11-2008, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Donger

But, the kid in this example didn't KNOW that he had to do that, right? He assumed that the white guy interviewing him expected him to doubly impressive because he's black?

Yeah. Whatever.

**Donger** · 07-11-2008, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by wutamess

Yeah. Whatever.

That's it? Is what I wrote not correct?

wutamess · 07-11-2008, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Donger

That's it? Is what I wrote not correct?

It's really hard to take you serious because you do your question asking tactic on everyone like you're really trying to understand.

Try making your point and then I can honestly respond... Stop asking me open ended ?s. You're not my shrink. I know what the problem is. It's not up to you to get it out of me.

**Donger** · 07-11-2008, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by wutamess

It's really hard to take you serious because you do your question asking tactic on everyone like you're really trying to understand.

Try making your point and then I can honestly respond... Stop asking me open ended ?s. You're not my shrink. I know what the problem is. It's not up to you to get it out of me.

I haven't asked you a single question that is open ended. I've been asking you for your opinions because I do want to understand. If you don't want to help educate me, fine.

wutamess · 07-11-2008, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Donger

I haven't asked you a single question that is open ended. I've been asking you for your opinions because I do want to understand. If you don't want to help educate me, fine.

K... I'll give it a shot.
Just curious... do you have an opinion in any of this?

What are you really trying to find out?
~ Lunch time (1 hr)

wutamess · 07-11-2008, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Donger

But, the kid in this example didn't KNOW that he had to do that, right? He assumed that the white guy interviewing him expected him to doubly impressive because he's black?

Yes Donger... he KNEW he had to do that in order to get the job.
(not saying MarKK) But if the black guy came in with the same clothes the W guys would've the hiring manager would just go with hiring by association.

It's wrong but it's understandable and the way of the world.

**Donger** · 07-11-2008, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by wutamess

Yes Donger... he KNEW he had to do that in order to get the job.
(not saying MarKK) But if the black guy came in with the same clothes the W guys would've the hiring manager would just go with hiring by association.

It's wrong but it's understandable and the way of the world.

I really hope that I never have to interview with a black guy. I'd have no fucking clue what to do.

Anyway, I appreciate your efforts. Thanks.

wutamess · 07-11-2008, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Donger

I really hope that I never have to interview with a black guy. I'd have no fucking clue what to do.

Anyway, I appreciate your efforts. Thanks.

See that's why we have to "impress". We're no different than a white guy. Why would you interview any different?

Actually I have a small story...
I was interviewing for a Tech Support position for a school in Noblesville Indiana... One of the first things out of the hiring guys mouth was, "You do know that we have no black students... How do you feel about that?" Probably no blacks in the county.

I didn't get the job and I'm sure it was because of that. Did I have a suit? Probably so. But I really don't care so to hell with it.

Just to show you that AA is needed.

**Donger** · 07-11-2008, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by wutamess

See that's why we have to "impress". We're no different than a white guy. Why would you interview any different?

Actually I have a small story...
I was interviewing for a Tech Support position for a school in Noblesville Indiana... One of the first things out of the hiring guys mouth was, "You do know that we have no black students... How do you feel about that?" Probably no blacks in the county.

I didn't get the job and I'm sure it was because of that. Did I have a suit? Probably so. But I really don't care so to hell with it.

Just to show you that AA is needed.

I'm not following you.

You seem to be saying that a black guy interviewing with a white guy needs to act more "white" in order to get the job because of the stereotypes of blacks that white people have.

Is that correct?

wutamess · 07-11-2008, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Donger

I'm not following you.

You seem to be saying that a black guy interviewing with a white guy needs to act more "white" in order to get the job because of the stereotypes of blacks that white people have.

Is that correct?

After I posted I reread your post and then I realized you were talking about if you'd have to interview with a black hiring mgr. My post was invalid.

However, my error brings up a great point, how would you feel about your chances interviewing with a black hiring mgr and you and the other (black) candidate were equally qualified?

bishop_74 · 07-11-2008, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by wutamess

See that's why we have to "impress". We're no different than a white guy. Why would you interview any different?

Actually I have a small story...
I was interviewing for a Tech Support position for a school in Noblesville Indiana... One of the first things out of the hiring guys mouth was, "You do know that we have no black students... How do you feel about that?" Probably no blacks in the county.

I didn't get the job and I'm sure it was because of that. Did I have a suit? Probably so. But I really don't care so to hell with it.

Just to show you that AA is needed.

Civil suit waiting to happen. That is really wrong.

**RNR** · 07-11-2008, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Donger

I really hope that I never have to interview with a black guy. I'd have no fucking clue what to do.

Anyway, I appreciate your efforts. Thanks.

Start off buy saying you are sorry for being white. Then hire him rather he desesves the job or not. Go home feeling good because you struck a blow against racism.

Fairplay · 07-11-2008, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

I really hope that I never have to interview with a black guy. I'd have no fucking clue what to do.

Learn ebonics for starters.