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Old 08-03-2008, 11:41 PM  
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Whitlock: With Dorsey and Albert injured, Chiefs really hurting

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/col...ry/732679.html

With Dorsey and Albert injured, Chiefs are really hurting
RIVER FALLS, Wis. | It’s impossible to quantify just how much the injuries suffered by first-round picks Glenn Dorsey and Branden Albert will set back Herm Edwards’ 2008 reclamation project.

The NFL could legalize the use of HGH, steroids, artificial limbs and handguns for the home team at Arrowhead Stadium this season and the Chiefs would still struggle to win four games in 2008.

Having said that, we know Dorsey’s knee injury and Albert’s foot injury will have a significant impact. Dorsey is likely to miss at least one preseason game, and Albert might just miss the rest of training camp.

For a young team looking to build confidence with an injection of youthful, raw talent, losing your two most talented and important rookies certainly hurts. Every team needs a purpose. Developing Dorsey and Albert was pretty much the primary purpose of this preseason.

Dorsey is the key to KC’s revamped defensive front seven. Albert, a left tackle, is the key to protecting Brodie Croyle’s blind side and opening left-side running lanes for moody running back Larry Johnson.

Everything is on hold now.

If the Chiefs could, they’d cancel their trip to Chicago and avoid having what little confidence they have shattered by a veteran Bears squad. The NFL season is a grueling marathon and you have to be “up” for the grind. Playing the role of the Washington Generals is no fun on a football field.

The point of my ramblings from training camp isn’t to convince you to turn in your Chiefs’ season tickets and immerse yourself in Missouri, Kansas and Kansas State football this fall. Although that’s not the worst idea.

I’m trying to prepare you for a hurricane. How you respond to this difficult season is likely to determine the fate of the franchise for the next decade. The Chiefs are dangerously close to falling into the same hole that buried the franchise in the late 1970s and throughout the 1980s.

We know the organization has stood by Carl Peterson for too long, which is a repeat of the same mistake the team made with Jack Steadman.

Not surprisingly, the Chiefs are now in the terrible position that befalls many bad teams — even the good things they do are turning bad. Drafting Dorsey and Albert made perfect sense. A defensive tackle and left tackle are often the foundations of good defensive and offensive lines. They’re foundation pieces.

A week into training camp and the foundation of the 2008 season has already been struck by bad luck.

My fear is that midway through this season you’re going to be so irate that you’re going to want everyone in the organization fired, including Herm Edwards. Some of you have already reached this point. I listen to your voicemails and I read your e-mails.

I’m not there yet.

Oh, I can be convinced. I’m not going to be overly protective of Herm. If you read this column regularly, you know I don’t play favorites.

I just believe this is Herm’s first shot at doing what needed to be done when he arrived in Kansas City. If you bring in a new coach at the end of this season, you won’t get any different results. You’re likely to increase the chaos.

Here’s the criteria for calling for Herm’s head:

1. Tamba Hali has to be a bust in his third season. Hali was Herm’s first draft pick. He’s supposed to be a good pass rusher, a guy who can get to the QB a dozen times a season. He should be a big-play defender this season.

2. Jarrad Page and Bernard Pollard have to be flops. Herm led us to believe these two safeties would be the next Deron Cherry and Lloyd Burruss. Well, they may not be Jerome Woods and Reggie Tongue.

3. Tank Tyler and Turk McBride must fail. We were led to believe Tank and Turk might be the next Dan Saleaumua and Joe Phillips. Right now, they’re Junior Siavii and Eddie Freeman.

Herm is a defensive-minded head coach. If three of the five key defensive players he’s drafted and pegged as legitimate NFL players bomb, then I think it’s fair to say he’s doing a poor job identifying and developing young talent.

Under Herm and Bill Kuharich, the Chiefs are supposed to be drafting better. I want to see some real proof, especially on the defensive side of the football. I don’t have high hopes for this year’s crop of rookies. Two of them are already beat up, and it’s unreasonable to expect much from the others.
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Old 08-04-2008, 02:24 AM   #16
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I tend to think making a judgement on lineman after 1 year is a little on the crazy side. I do think Tank has a better chance than Turk though.
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Old 08-04-2008, 02:25 AM   #17
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well dorsey shouldent be that bad, but albert is only supposed to be out for atleast three to four pre season games i hope that they both return by the regular season

you're not talking about an experience left tackle, your talking about a guy who's a rookie and who played only right guard in college


footwork is all different 4 weeks might as well be 4 months in his development
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Old 08-04-2008, 07:57 AM   #18
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Here’s the criteria for calling for Herm’s head:

1. Tamba Hali has to be a bust in his third season. Hali was Herm’s first draft pick. He’s supposed to be a good pass rusher, a guy who can get to the QB a dozen times a season. He should be a big-play defender this season.

2. Jarrad Page and Bernard Pollard have to be flops. Herm led us to believe these two safeties would be the next Deron Cherry and Lloyd Burruss. Well, they may not be Jerome Woods and Reggie Tongue.

3. Tank Tyler and Turk McBride must fail. We were led to believe Tank and Turk might be the next Dan Saleaumua and Joe Phillips. Right now, they’re Junior Siavii and Eddie Freeman.

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Old 08-04-2008, 08:11 AM   #19
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The only way Whitlock believes Herm should be fired is if just about every draft pick from the first two years of Herm's KC tenure end up being a bust this year.

I think the better question is which assistant coaches will Herm fire at the end of the year when the Chiefs finish with 5 or less wins.
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Old 08-04-2008, 08:16 AM   #20
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I saw on the news earlier that they said that Albert probably will miss a regular season game as well
It won't matter. The Pats will clobber by us by at least 30 points, so why risk him?
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Old 08-04-2008, 08:26 AM   #21
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well, there goes the season..

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Old 08-04-2008, 08:37 AM   #22
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Here’s the criteria for calling for Herm’s head:

1. Tamba Hali has to be a bust in his third season. Hali was Herm’s first draft pick. He’s supposed to be a good pass rusher, a guy who can get to the QB a dozen times a season. He should be a big-play defender this season.

2. Jarrad Page and Bernard Pollard have to be flops. Herm led us to believe these two safeties would be the next Deron Cherry and Lloyd Burruss. Well, they may not be Jerome Woods and Reggie Tongue.

3. Tank Tyler and Turk McBride must fail. We were led to believe Tank and Turk might be the next Dan Saleaumua and Joe Phillips. Right now, they’re Junior Siavii and Eddie Freeman.

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Nor do I.

Oh, and remind me just how the Chiefs managed to land the services of Phillips and Big Daddy Dan.

High draft picks? Huge stars in year 1 and 2 of their careers?

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Old 08-04-2008, 08:38 AM   #23
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"moody running back Larry Johnson."
Yeah, he's constantly pissed off.

Jim Brown pissed off...
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The Chicago Bears already moved John Tait to left tackle once, and it's worth wondering whether they'll do it again. Rookie Chris Williams sat out for the 10th straight day with a back injury, spoiling the Bears' goal of having him on the field for practice Sunday. The first-round draft pick is the biggest part of the planned reshuffling for the offensive line, and without him in the mix, Plan B is looking more necessary by the day.
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Old 08-04-2008, 08:58 AM   #25
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I'm trying to figure how Dorsey being an injury risk can come as a huge shocker.

That was the story from day one. He was banged up coming in and the idea was that even if he needed surgery and missed most of the season his upside was worth it.
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Let Albert heal until Faider week. Dorsey know issues with injury at LSU...

his upside remains to be seen. hind sight always 20-20 or better.
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